Mike Matei / October 25th, 2015
October 25, 2015 at 3:17 am
This movie is soooo good. Happy to hear your take on it!
October 25, 2015 at 4:43 pm
So, what was the theme this year?
October 25, 2015 at 4:54 pm
I think this should become a regular segment, james and mike movie thursdays or something. I mean, you sit down and talk with no edits really needed, youd give us new material weekly and its free view boost on youtube, everyone wins. theyre quick and easy to make
October 26, 2015 at 1:38 am
None, same as last year
November 1, 2015 at 12:27 pm
+1 for James & Mike Movie Thursdays
October 28, 2015 at 6:02 am
Na. I’m definitely with Mike on this one. My thumbs totally sideways.
October 25, 2015 at 3:18 am
Yes, I was hoping they would review It Follows. It wasn’t perfect, it was slow at times, and all the poem readings was a bit much. But I still loved the movie, it was creepy and really creative, and the relationship between the kids reminded me of the teens in A Nightmare in Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors, which I love. I agree with Mike, it’s one of the best horror movies in years, and it’s defiantly going in my “movies to watch around Halloween” list. Great review guys
October 25, 2015 at 9:38 am
I thought of Dream Warriors too as I was watching it. “It” less only because I always think of the characters in It as kids or adults. They are working together to save their friend and there is something enjoyable about that, it balances out the darkness of it.
One thing that wasn’t mentioned that I absolutely loved was the atmosphere. Inner city Detroit was such a good idea! It represents such a sadness and alludes to a horror in itself of all those broken dreams. I think it adds to why the timeframe is so confusing, everything is so old because they are poor. When they go out to the suburbs it’s a newer house.
I enjoyed the movie, definitely worth checking out!
October 26, 2015 at 7:16 pm
NO I don’t agree to make that a regular segment it will take off the “cachet” of the monster madness the “October fest” of horror maniac such as me like … Sorry but I have to disagree with you all.
November 1, 2015 at 12:29 pm
Doesn’t have to be horror movies, anything they think is worth a discussion
October 25, 2015 at 3:46 am
I was all aboard the hype train for this movie. When it finally came out in theaters, the closest showing was an hour away, so I drove out to see it by myself. I stayed until after the credits were over and I was the only person left in the theater. When I was exiting, I turned the corner to run into a teenage girl texting right in front of me. I almost shit my pants. She was literally standing there, lifeless, not aware of where she was standing. I could have punched her.
October 25, 2015 at 3:58 am
They forgot to mention the great music. It was like classic 80s horror music. Very eerie.
October 25, 2015 at 11:21 am
Amazed they forgot that….It Follows has a superb soundtrack, very Carpenter -like
October 26, 2015 at 11:17 am
Yeah Totally Epic Soundtrack
October 25, 2015 at 4:07 am
October 25, 2015 at 6:30 am
Was the opening done by the Glitch Gremlin?
October 25, 2015 at 8:42 am
clearly a womens voice. i think his wife does some of the openings. im not sure about this one.
October 25, 2015 at 7:19 am
I enjoyed it but didn’t think it was as amazing as everyone seems to make out it is. I think many just got swept away on the nostalgic vibe the movie had to the 80s.
October 25, 2015 at 7:49 am
‘You could loose that scene and it wouldn’t effect anything’
Wait, are we talking about It Follows or the AVGN Movie?
October 25, 2015 at 8:19 am
MIKE STOP TALKING FOR SUCH LONG PERIODS AND INTERRUPTING JAMES!!!
October 25, 2015 at 8:35 am
not too bad in this video but other videos. he barely gets to talk because u never pause and he doesnt interrupt you.
October 25, 2015 at 8:21 am
I watched this with my friend and we didn’t really understand what they were trying to do with their whole pool plan. Also, we said pretty early on, “Why don’t they give it to a prostitute then it’ll keep being passed along to a whole bunch of people and I’m glad they did eventually address that rather than leaving an obvious idea unexplored lol. We did really enjoy the film though, it’s pretty good.
October 25, 2015 at 8:59 am
It Follows is a classic.
Best watched in the cinema.
It’s the most times I’ve seen a film in theaters (8 times).
There are no negatives.
Jay going out to fuck those guys on the boat was to show her desperation. And they seem like disposable douchebags. It was to show how lost she was. Why is that important? Because the film is about loss of innocence and the attempt to regain the worry-free eternity that was youth. Sex represents that moment where you “grow up”. But once you cross that line, there’s no going back. When you sleep with people, you then start to lose trust because of the betrayal element. Then you start sleeping with more people to get over that betrayal and the cycle of abuse goes on. It follows. You grow up and learn the horrible truth that you are going to die. The awareness of death is the loss of innocence. You can never feel that eternity of youth again because of this awareness that death will catch up to you someday, at any place, at any time.
MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD
Paul represents Jay’s youth, which is why they’re together at the end. She’s gotten over her dark past and found youth and happiness again. Notice how they walk towards a DEAD END sign with calm and serenity. They are accepting of life, of which the price is death. They hear and walk by children playing. Leaves are being raked (Spring of life overtaking the fall of looming winter death). You see someone walking in the background towards them. (It’s debatable that the person is “It”. You can see the person turn their head to look around and there may have been one other instance where it may have done that earlier in the film.)
Did they defeat it? It being fear of death, loss of innocence and youth. I think they know that death is certain and they can spend what time they have left in a calm and comforting manner. Remember Jay laying on the bed right before, being petted and calmed by her mother.
The pool, water, represents memories. I think there’s trauma in Jay’s past with her father and she is facing her fears. Broken pool is also loss of innocence (beginning she is carefree in that pool, innocent, youthful). Her memories are forever tainted and overcome with blood.
Parents tend to shame and hurt their children. Sex is considered “wrong” and shameful. Sex is the most uncomfortable subject between parents and their children.
With sex, Jay being abandoned by both Hugh and Greg (back in high school) parallels a sense of abandonment from her drunk mother and absent (possibly dead) father. It snowballs the problem as she sleeps more and more with people to try to alleviate the pain (It). But its temporary false-relief. She basically became a prostitute, not for money, but for a little piece of time to forget the shame that follows her. But when she wakes up she only hates herself more for involving others in her descent.
Death is certain and in all of that we find comfort in our youth and lost innocence that we spend the rest of our life trying to regain.
Jay and Paul fought the trauma of her past (her father) together. She still has those scars (around her ankle) from her past but Paul saved her and usurped that male/sexual figure in her life.
In the end, as they’re dressed in white (innocence), Jay is wearing a necklace (a key). I think their happiness being together was the literal key to stopping “it” (their shame, fear of getting old, fear of abandonment, fear of death).
The point is that death is always after us and will, for certain, get us in the end. The message, I believe, is to let go. It is inevitable. Let go of fear. Let go of shame. Let go of persecution.
To me, that is why this is like the ultimate horror film. It’s all about death, shame, sex, life, family, and the fear that comes with that. That is what horror is.
October 25, 2015 at 10:26 am
I agree, except for the fact that it is a classic. Its just a teenagers-we-are-not-ready-for-the-world explorational movie. yes sex can be horror kids. .. aids and stuff.. bottomline life sucks!
October 25, 2015 at 9:47 am
The Taking of Debra Loman was an excellent film. Housebound is my favorite recent horror movie though. It makes you believe it is one type of movie, then takes you on a 180, then takes you on another 180. The last hour is one of the best thriller/horror movies ever.
October 25, 2015 at 9:48 am
After seeing in theatre, my friends and I all agreed that It Follows was one of the worst attempts at a horror movie we have ever seen. Terrible pacing, a meandering plot, poor direction and even worse acting. Biggest problem of all, not even a little bit frightening, just boring upon boring.
Am clearly in the minority opinion considering its high Rotten Tomatoes rating and how much glowing feedback it continues to receive, but simply cannot fathom what people find compelling about this movie.
October 25, 2015 at 10:05 am
Have you guys seen “Renegade Cut”s take on this movie?
To sum it up, the theory is this movie is about time, and aging. (that’s why it’s set in every timeline, this is everyone’s childhood/teen years). At the end of the movie, the surviving couple joins hands, she in white and him in black; as if in wedding. Watch Renegade Cut; It Follows for a much more comprehensive review than mine.
November 1, 2015 at 12:51 pm
That was a really good take on it: there’s actually a lot you could read into this movie. I hadn’t thought about the boy’s possible significance, and I hadn’t noticed he was the same boy who crawled through the door (at least I think he was).
October 25, 2015 at 10:37 am
I watched this movie when I alone in my room at night, which definitely increased the scariness of it. I’m about to go watch The Taking of Deborah Logan now and see if that’s good!
October 25, 2015 at 11:05 am
I hadn’t heard of this movie until I saw this video. No one was talking about it at all, not anyone I knew anyway.
October 25, 2015 at 11:17 am
A modern classic take with a Carpenter-esque feel and a great Carpenter-like soundtrack!
October 25, 2015 at 11:32 am
Take notes horror genre
October 25, 2015 at 12:06 pm
I luckily saw the movie with out any hype since everyone I know doesn’t really do horror movies. I only heard about when visiting my family and watched shortly after. I did like the movie which is good for a more recent horror movie.
October 25, 2015 at 12:10 pm
Yea she banged the guys on the boat and yes there are a lot of guys who will plow some slutty girl with thier friends I have done it many times. I fucked a lot and I mean a lot in my 20’s From the age of 16 to 28 or so it was banging different bitches sometimes 2 in a day. Sometimes not finding one till a week. But I’m somewhere between banging or blowjobs from 60 to 80 diff girls in my estimation which is a pretty accurate estimate.
October 25, 2015 at 12:55 pm
That comment is for all you Cinemassacre fans out there, in case you ever wondered the kind of sex life JASONJRF has had.
October 25, 2015 at 10:00 pm
How many diseases do you have?
October 25, 2015 at 1:17 pm
The music in this movie was from the same guy who did the music for the video game Fez.
October 25, 2015 at 1:25 pm
Never understood the stigma of hype. Just realize that its universally enjoyed. Dont fall for the hype in thinking its the best thing ever. Anyway, the movie does have wtf moments, but the overall presentation was top notch and wonderful. My god, you guys never mentioned the music!
October 25, 2015 at 1:29 pm
THANK YOU FOR NOT SHITTING ALL OVER THIS MOVIE!! I also got hit with all the hype before seeing it and in my opinion, if you can see a movie after hearing everyone hype it up and still enjoy it that it is a good movie!
Holy fucking shit they read my mind. A week ago or so I was going to suggest they talk about this movie. It isn’t exactly outright scary but it is the most horrifically disturbing movie I’ve ever seen.
October 25, 2015 at 1:52 pm
Attack of the The Eye Creatures
October 25, 2015 at 2:38 pm
If it catches you it does unspeakable things: like having sex with people to pass along a stalking killer.
October 25, 2015 at 2:41 pm
This is an old concept, BTW. Not necessarily sexually transmitted, but a victim selected and slowly stalked. 2014 Doctor Who had an episode with that concept, for example.
October 25, 2015 at 2:52 pm
It was a good movie, as everybody is saying the group trying to help their friend in disposing this threat it is a good idea I don´t remember from recent movies, however when Paul was reaching the backpack at the end, instead of a gun I thought he was going to come up with a bucket of paint for everybody to see IT.
October 25, 2015 at 2:53 pm
I was really looking forward to this movie and….it was alright. I appreciated the slow pace, the music and the style of the movie but the for me the end of the movie just got so ridiculous that it kind of ruined it a little for me. Sometimes keeping things subtle is better than trying to go all out and doing something impressive ending wise.
October 25, 2015 at 3:17 pm
I really hope they talk about oculus at some point, to me that movie was a step above this one.
October 25, 2015 at 3:26 pm
Excellent job fellas!
I feel like both of you guys would enjoy Sinister.
October 25, 2015 at 3:34 pm
My take on why he went to such lengths to drug her and show her what was going to happen: He probably slept with a bunch of girls before her and they didn’t believe him and they were killed. If you think of it that way it makes more sense why what he did seemed so extreme.
October 25, 2015 at 4:38 pm
Personally, I found this movie really unsatisfying. Visually speaking, it was really well done. “It” had some very creepy manifestations and I’ll admit it was an interesting twist on the stalker genre. However, the dialogue felt stiff and unnatural, the plot was pedantic, and the ending left me feeling like I had just got a rushed HJ with no finish. I know a lot of people loved it, and that’s great, I’m happy for them, but I agree with James in that it could have been much, much better.
October 25, 2015 at 4:53 pm
I really enjoy these reviews, but lets be honest, they’re not monster madness. Are you running out of ideas/material? I think this should become a regular segment, james and mike movie thursdays or something. I mean, you sit down and talk with no edits really needed, youd give us new material weekly and its free view boost n youtube, everyone wins
October 25, 2015 at 5:24 pm
IT FOLLOWS and BABADOOK are my two tense top picks from yesteryear. I think the characters missed some of the gun shots, and didn’t hit the head. Also, the soundtrack for it is pretty cool, by Disasterpeace, who did the FEZ indie game soundtrack. I’ll have to check that The Taking of Deborah Logan one. Might I also suggest A Girl Walks Home Alone At Night.
October 26, 2015 at 11:22 pm
and about the killer creeping up closer and closer towards the viewer or victim, you’ll find that technique in the Ju-on/The Grudge series (both original and American versions)
October 25, 2015 at 5:44 pm
I think you mist a point, the sub-reading of this movie is that when you have sex whit someone, you have sex whit all the person she or he sleep before, in the way that you can get sexual disease that you will eventually transmit to someone else…For me i think that this movie is effectively linked to old slasher movie when young people dies during sex or after, meaning that sex for sex is a bad thing in a christian moral way…Th final scene is quite relevant about that..you see the two walks holding there hands, and somebody is walking behind them, so you think maybe it’s not over, but you have to notice that this person is not acting like the ”followers”, it’s just a regular normal human being..it means that having sex whit someone whit real love save you from this malediction..Very clever.
October 25, 2015 at 8:11 pm
what is that movie they are watching in the beggining of the movie “it follows”
October 25, 2015 at 11:41 pm
I was unimpressed with this one. Saw it in the theater with my girlfriend and the both of us are horror fans. It seemed to us that it’s essentially AIDS: The Movie. Sleep with someone, get a nasty thing that follows you (stuck with) and nobody can see it really except you, because you know you have it. Kills you then everyone up the line.
I did enjoy alot of the camera work and the soundtrack was pretty great, but overall, ehhhh. Also, it literally walks after you right? Catch a plane to a different country once a month, bang some people along the way, and you buy yourself alot of time before it catches up.
October 26, 2015 at 12:37 am
It was an interesting movie, but from the start with the dead chicks gimped leg, I knew there was silliness to come. To get crazy, the ending was an example of todays self absorbed generation. A couple in love dealing with this thing forever. These people shit themselves if they cant access facebook or twitter, let alone a homicidal stalker.
October 26, 2015 at 2:23 am
“It” was supposed to be about death. The fear in all of us that one day it will comes for us no matter what. Many themes in the movie are about age, like in the very start of the movie they play that game. The guy she is out on the date with picks out a child and says “His whole life is in front of him.” The whole sex thing is suppose to be about how we fill our lives with distraction and it may take the fear of death away for a little while but it is still coming for us in the end. I usually love the analysis they do but I don’t like the way they did this one. This movie has so much going on in it that was being said in a very subtle way.
October 26, 2015 at 3:17 am
Surprise Mike did’t like it. If only it was a movie about the inside of Zelda’s asshole then maybe he’d know a good film if it jizzed across his smug bully face.
October 26, 2015 at 4:08 am
Good idea but poorly executed.
October 26, 2015 at 6:40 am
i don’t get why you can’t just go to amsterdam have sex with a hooker a good looking 1 that has 50 clients a day or something,
she gets the thing after her but she passes it on to everybody that has sex with her but if the thing kills the clients it gets back to her but she passes it on to the next 1 before it gets to her because she has 50 clients a day:P and than you kinda set for life:P
October 26, 2015 at 7:18 pm
was a good movie, but aside from the creativity, what i didn’t like was that it amounted to a slow moving zombie film, with one zombie.
October 26, 2015 at 7:20 pm
BUCKET LIST going a lot larger this year need to go to video store NOW!
October 26, 2015 at 8:50 pm
I downloaded this movie w/o knowing anything about it; I thought it was pretty good. There are a lot better that are just as recent tho…
Stung, for instance, is damn good and no one talks about it.
October 27, 2015 at 12:03 am
THE MUSIC!!!! I can’t believe you guys didn’t mention the music. It reminded me of the O.G Halloween. I already used the main song in a little horror movie I did with my two little boys. GREAT MUSIC and you guys usually talk about it. Oh I am sure many of these comments reference it too. Peace
October 27, 2015 at 12:04 am
You guys always make my evening. Cheers! Thanks!
October 27, 2015 at 10:18 am
IT follows sucks shit it was so boring, so long, and wasn’t at all scary! “Oh there some random guy walking towards me” just doesn’t work for me. How are you gonna have a 2 1/2 hour horror movie and only have ONE actual kill scene?! Also you would think that a movie that was so long would have more character development. It was your typical “scooby doo style” horror cast, with totally unmemorable characters. the concept was cool but just not done right. It would’ve made a good twilight zone or tales from the crypt episode, but not a 2 1/2 hour movie.
November 1, 2015 at 1:11 pm
What cut did you see? The one I watched was only about 1:40…
October 27, 2015 at 12:37 pm
So the monster in this movie is hands down the easiest monster to escape in cinematic history. A slow shamble can escape this creature, and it is established that it can’t get through barriers. Case in point, that guy is dating the main character for weeks before she puts out in that same town and he is able to dodge it with ease.
So what’s the solution? Go to Nevada and sleep with a prostitute. Within the hour, she’ll have passed it on to someone else that also potentially lives on the other side of the nation, who potentially will comtinue to do so. Within 3 days, it will be several people’s turns all on opposite ends of the country and a slow, worthless creature is tracking them. On the super off chance that it ever gets back to the prostitute’s turn, it will no longer be her turn within a few hours and that thing will likely be hundreds, if not thousands of miles away at that moment.
October 27, 2015 at 4:16 pm
Damn, am I the only person who disliked this movie?
October 27, 2015 at 6:03 pm
review the thing or we riot
October 27, 2015 at 11:31 pm
I love It FOllows. I thought it was clever and smart and had some comic relief too. It really was a good horror movie and is different from the sh*t the studios keep pushing out
October 28, 2015 at 2:25 am
I really hope that The Babadook is part of this wave of Monster Madness. I’d like to hear their input on it
October 28, 2015 at 11:05 am
Good video! If you guys haven’t seen it, I would recommend trying out “Upstream Color.”
October 30, 2015 at 11:46 pm
I’ve juuuust watched it.
I thought the length was perfect though. It was surprisingly good! Original.
No actually I thought it was the beach scene that kinda broke it for me. The jumper scene in the shack. When it crawls through the door hole it smashed? Really stupid cliche. Other than that, I was a bit annoyed that the creature was given physical mass. I would’ve prefered if the friends had to believe her out of faith ( and by their dead friend (killed by his ‘mom’ ))
November 1, 2015 at 1:05 pm
This was my Halloween movie last night, and I’m glad I hadn’t really heard the hype about it or seen this video beforehand.
I actually liked the slow pace of the movie, it let you get to know the characters and build the suspense at the same time. I love films that show interaction between characters that doesn’t serve any real purpose to the story (Tarantino is a master of this), although I agree the boat scene should have either been cut or explained a little more.
The ending can make or break a film for me, and while I didn’t like the contradictory aspect of the pool scene that James and Mike pointed out, it redeemed itself with the final ambiguous scene where they’re walking down the street.
Definitely one of the best recent horror movies for me.
April 30, 2016 at 11:21 pm
It looks like you and Mike are in 2 separate rooms. Was he photoshopped into the vid?
October 4, 2016 at 11:18 pm
Well the thing with IT Follows is the mechanic behind the ghost/demon/monster which makes it a really interesting concept.
The reason he initially explained to her what’s going on for instance is so she survives longer and that he can get some rest for a change.
Just sleeping with someone that dies the next day won’t work in the long run of course so you gotta find someone that doesn’t die too fast to IT. My guess is that he tried that a few times already.
Execution was great and all but what bothered me personally is: what is IT’s problem really? That teenagers don’t fuck around enough?
What does it want? That’s what made no sense to me personally.
The swimming pool thing was forgivable really because it’s a classic “let’s trap the monster”-showdown.
October 24, 2016 at 6:31 pm
I wasn’t that big a fan of It Follows. I don’t get why the ghost thing just walks towards the victim slowly. It can pop up everywhere, why not just catch your target?!
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