Mike Matei / October 22nd, 2013
October 22, 2013 at 1:13 am
great review! would love to see all the movies you talked about dont know how you manage to do this!
October 22, 2013 at 1:16 am
great job james
October 22, 2013 at 1:22 am
Alien 3 cool! i seen that movie it’s okay.
October 22, 2013 at 1:24 am
Monster Madness. Just like the GAMERa series, the Frankenstein Series and the Mummy series, very informative videos while remaining comical and entertaining. Great Job.
October 22, 2013 at 1:25 am
Monster Madness. The Alien(s)(3) reviews are awesome, just like the GAMERa series, the Frankenstein Series and the Mummy series, very informative videos while remaining comical and entertaining. Great Job.
this film is criminally under-rated. it goes back to being serious, the characters were serious and interesting, and it deals with some very heavy story materials. also, it goes back to basics and feels the most human in terms of the films context. I tend to like Alien 3 rather than Aliens. that’s all I’ve got to say.
October 22, 2013 at 1:35 am
one final thing, I think they should of stopped with Alien 3 since it was a solid trilogy. some fans still see it as a trilogy, me included. Alien 3 has also aged quite well. plus, without Alien 3, there would be no Super Metroid. Super Metroid’s ending is very similar to Alien 3 when the baby metroid sacrifices itself to save Samus. plus, Norfair reminds me of the molten led in the final chase scenes. finally, if you ever wonder what the name of the song they used in the trailers, search under google and you’ll find the answers. apparently, someone saw my screwattack blog based on it (which is no longer active), and solved the case. thank to 2 people on the internet, that mystery was solved. other than that, there is nothing left for me to say. enjoy commenting on the rest of Monster Madness without me folks. I’ve got bigger things to worry about (Halloween in theaters on October 30th, 2013). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHKmJBOukIY
October 22, 2013 at 7:31 am
I could comment and talk about how wrong you are but James did that for me.
October 22, 2013 at 1:10 pm
@ Bludman2 – I could comment and talk about how wrong you are too, but I don’t need James to do that for me, and it’s not worth my time anymore. you folks don’t know when to just back off, don’t you? just leave the comments as they are and leave me the hell alone please. there is no need to drag this on even further.
October 22, 2013 at 4:16 pm
Wow. I made an account just so I can point out your ignorance. You’re on the comments section of a website, if you’re going to have an opinion, feel free to post it, but don’t act as though bludman2 is a bastard for disagreeing. His comment was pretty funny and appropriate, you trying to act above him by saying he doesn’t know when to “back off” is close-minded, childish, and pathetic.
October 22, 2013 at 5:36 pm
I must say I agree with you Lordjason 1986. I quite like this movie and don’t like the second one at all. The atmosphere is great here and as you said the characters are serious. I seem to like it when there is one monster. As for the other comments, nobody can prove anyone’s opinion wrong, but there is no need to be hostile either.
October 22, 2013 at 8:02 pm
I agree. Alien 3 is very underrated. I feel “Alien Resurrection” is the movie that is just plain “o.k.”
In the end I see this as a very solid trilogy of films and all three are almost in equal measure. As for the Super Metroid connections; maybe stretching it a little bit but, I do see where you’re coming from.
October 23, 2013 at 6:19 am
“Wow. I made an account just so I can point out your ignorance. You’re on the comments section of a website, if you’re going to have an opinion, feel free to post it, but don’t act as though bludman2 is a bastard for disagreeing. His comment was pretty funny and appropriate, you trying to act above him by saying he doesn’t know when to “back off” is close-minded, childish, and pathetic.”
There is a BIG difference between replying with an intelligent argument on why someone may disagree with a post, and flat-out saying “You’re wrong”. The latter is an ad-hominem attack. It was in NO WAY appropriate.
“I could comment and talk about how wrong you are but James did that for me.” That is a perfect example of being closed-minded, childish, and pathetic. Look up “ad-hominem”, you might actually learn something.
October 23, 2013 at 3:15 am
Serious? While the film is trying to be dark just for the sake of being dark (unlike the original film), it actually comes off as quite silly. There’s too many plot holes and the films effects look ridiculous, and the characters are not interesting at all. The film is just a mess.
They really should have stopped with Aliens, which is one of the greatest sequels ever made.
October 23, 2013 at 4:22 am
Well I see how different people argue concerning the Alien series. My personal favourite will always be Aliens but I like “Alien resurrection” (Thanks to James chronologically confused video here) too and here is why (Spoiler alert!): There is a guy that got an Alien implanted and asks Ripley what happened to him. She explains the situation to him in such a cynical way: “These guys captured your ship, that guy implanted an Alien inside you. It will burst out and you will die. I am the mother of the Alien.” This movie has such a great tone. So dark and sarcastic but sometimes funny at the same time. It truely shows the dark side of humans and their behaviour / motivations. It was filmed by Jean-Pierre Jeunet and I can definately recommand all of his movies! It is also interesting to see that the android girl seems to behave more human than all the real people in this film. We have fantastic actors such as Brad Dourif, Winona Rider, Michael Wincott and of course Sigourney Weaver. The effects are great and the Aliens look pretty cool. The story was relatively realistic connected to the previous film and you see more of the Aliens – let’s say – living environment. What do you want more? I hope you’ll come to the predator films and specially Alien vs. Predator II James – THAT was one of the worst movies I ever saw in theaters!
October 23, 2013 at 6:24 am
Resurrection was a farce of itself, of the franchise. It was an insult. Every beat of the movie made fun of itself. A big middle finger from the writer and director, to the franchise and Fox, if you will.
October 30, 2013 at 11:30 pm
Ugh, I HATED this movie. Look, it’s one thing for a film to say ‘to hell with continuity’ and just put the main character in a brand new situation with all new characters – I don’t like it, but I’ll give it a shot. At worst, it’ll be a bad movie unrelated to the previous ones, and hey if it’s good it stands on its own. But it’s ANOTHER thing to maintain continuity and just fuckin’ kill off the characters you don’t want involved within the first five minutes of the movie! That right there is a bunch of bullshit, and I won’t stand for it EVEN IF the movie is good. I don’t CARE if it’s good on its own if it takes a big ole shit on the previous movies in the series. That’s just totally uncool.
And honestly? IT WASN’T. It was mediocre at best. It’s like sacrificing your genius second child to save the life of your C-student third.
October 22, 2013 at 1:27 am
Always a blast when monster madness is upon us. I myself actually pretend there is no part 3 to the alien movies and leave it at part 2’s ending. I lmfao at the new nerd video. This has been one badass bday.
October 22, 2013 at 1:39 am
“they should have stopped at number 2” no truer words spoken!
Very cool James , How about aliens resurrection?
October 22, 2013 at 2:52 am
He’s obviously going to do that one next.
October 22, 2013 at 1:42 am
Damn, you posted this one rather quickly. I never cared for part 3 myself, found it boring and basically a poorly done rehash of the first film. However, I really enjoyed the next film as they seemed to be having fun making it, loved Ron Pearlman and thought it was so strange and bizarre. It wasn’t as good as the first two films, but I enjoyed Resurrection way more than this one.
October 22, 2013 at 1:52 am
The Director’s Cut is almost an entire different movie due the passing, editing and the way some aspects are enphasised. One of the rare times an ‘alternate version’ has some very strong impact when put side by side with the original. I truly recommend it another try, James! : )
October 22, 2013 at 2:15 am
Paraphrasing the late, great Roger Ebert (the AVGN of cinema), “Never has a bad movie looked so good.”
The assessment that the tricks and suspense mechanisms had grown stale by this point is spot on. Furthermore, the ways they tried to one-up the predecessors seemed tired: instead of improvised weapons or strong weapons low on ammo, No weapons. Instead of people who are skilled in either space travel or combat, we get new-messiah cultists. And an alien that survives molten lead but not water spray?
Ultimately, I couldn’t help feeling the who thing tried to compensate for its inferiority with a lot of melodrama that fell flat.
October 22, 2013 at 8:36 am
“And an alien that survives molten lead but not water spray?”
It’s called thermal shock… It’s the combination of the two which killed it.
October 22, 2013 at 12:03 pm
Kudos, I was about to type the same thing until I scrolled down.
October 22, 2013 at 2:27 am
Good job James.
October 22, 2013 at 3:03 am
hey! do more on that recut version. as I remember it was the better version…minus the fact that they did a crappy version of that great sacrifice-scene…
October 22, 2013 at 3:25 am
James, your experience with this terrible film is bad enough. But I am 45 years old, so Alien was my first scary film, I got to see the sequel as a teen, and I was a young adult when I saw the teaser trailer for this film.
You’re such a horror scholar that you probably know this already, but the teaser showed the classic egg-with-a-glowing-crack hovering above the Earth, with the modified tagline “On Earth, everyone can hear you scream.”
You’re a busy man, but you can imagine what a disappointment the actual film was to me (I was on a rare date- eycch).
October 22, 2013 at 4:17 am
all i remembered from this movie is the dog.
October 22, 2013 at 5:56 am
Assembly cut’s way better. Or so i think.
October 22, 2013 at 5:59 am
Thank you for the review James!
Concerning Alien 3, I have to disagree with you. Watching the movies chronologically for the first time some years ago, it instantly was my favourite part.
I never was that much into Cameron’s action excesses and I couldn’t quite stand the overlong and shallow director’s cut of Aliens (which was the only version I had until Fox released the hybrid DVD with both cuts), so I was glad to see them returning to the formula of the 1st Alien movie.
What attracts me most is that they eventually turned a scary movie like Alien 1 into an even scarier and totally dark movie.
You’re right, it’s depressing, but that’ exactly how it was supposed to be, I guess.
No more happy Jimmy Cameron family cliches like in part 2, just Ripley as an alien herself (!) on a planet full of pervos, chased again by her nemesis!
Just my two cents, by the way, I’m fine with you agreeing to the common opinion on Alien 3 and I’m truly glad you didn’t unfairly shred it to pieces at all 🙂
October 22, 2013 at 11:35 am
I agree with you a lot here. I wont say its my favroite, but I like the movie for its darkness. And like you said, Riply herself is an alien in a forign world here, and for a long time the prisoners are more of a thret then the monster is. There is a lot about this movie that is overlooked.
October 22, 2013 at 6:00 am
the version when the alien comes out the ox.
i kinda find it slithly better.
i mean ok the dog part is way cooler.
but they also change the ending a bit witch has a bit more closure.
and the the first plan that they have when they wanna chase the alien with fire into the garbage disposal.
its way better and longer and more elaberated.
October 22, 2013 at 6:03 am
ok i guess we be seeing alien resurrection tomorrow.
but are we also gonna see the 3 predator movies?
or the 2 alien vs predator movies?
October 22, 2013 at 6:17 am
October 22, 2013 at 6:59 am
This commercial for Xidex is crap. Get rid of geek hands.
October 22, 2013 at 7:00 am
I’m probably the only person in the world that loves Alien 3. For a long time I even thought it to be the best of the series. Now I think the first one is the best but this one is probably my second favourite.
October 22, 2013 at 7:29 am
Yep, you, and David Fincher’s fan base.
Eh, i agree with James. Alien 3 is underwhelming when compared to ALIENS, but what COULD live up to Aliens? Honestly it was a genre-setting film, the best action-horror movie ever made. Alien 3 never really stood a chance. And killing Hicks and Newt stank!
October 22, 2013 at 8:02 am
Recently re-watched the quadrology and nope… whether Alien 3 nor Alien Resurrection are anywhere near being good movies
Sure, both had interesting aspects and I liked the taming part very much in Alien Resurrection but altogether it’s a shit movie.
October 22, 2013 at 8:57 am
I knew it, but I strongly disagree on this one. Alien 3 is the typical example of people mixing up personal disappointment and movie quality. Alien 3 is by no way a bad movie, not even an average one, but people were disappointed because it was not telling the story they had in mind with the end of Aliens.
Aliens is indeed a masterpiece, I love it, but it is an entertainment masterpiece, where the first Alien and Alien 3 have much more artistic values, are character-driven and explore much deeper the psyche of Ripley.
Well, I will not try to convince anyone, but I do think Alien 3 is an underrated gem, I also think that it suffers greatly when comparing it to Aliens, but not because of its quality, more because the two films are aimed to completely different audiences.
October 22, 2013 at 11:42 am
You hit the nail on the head here. I agree completely. You just cant compare this to Aliens, they are totaly different movies. I do think they were both ment for the same audiance, its just that no one wanted to accept this movie after seeing Aliens.
October 22, 2013 at 9:42 am
..And the neither of the franchises ended. Funny thing that.
October 22, 2013 at 10:03 am
You hit this movie right on the head! Definitely watchable, especially if you like the franchise, but not the same!
Are you going to bother with the rest?
October 22, 2013 at 10:17 am
i hate how in the special edition the alien spawns from a cow and not a dog. The cow scene is totally CG bullshit.
October 22, 2013 at 10:24 am
The only good thing about this movie (besides the special effects which I like) is it started David Fincher’s carear lol
October 22, 2013 at 10:36 am
I think for Alien 4, you need to use angry video game nerd. But Nostalgia critic has done it already though…
October 22, 2013 at 10:41 am
I actually like to defend this movie. I thought it was actually really good! This is a video I truly agree with, though I highly respect James’ opinion 🙂 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHbBvuo4Yak
October 22, 2013 at 11:28 am
I acualy like this movie. It dark atmisphere, the complete bleakness of it. That dark and depressing feeling. No I dont think its as good as the other two, but I still like it. Also I think you should have mentioned how good Weaver was in this movie. She was amazing and carried the whole thing. Not to mention that she shaved her head for the role.
October 22, 2013 at 12:38 pm
I actually feel ashamed to say this, but I’ve NEVER seen a single one of the Alien movies.
Not a single one.
I guess it’s the setting. Space just doesn’t interest me, too many bad movies (Star Wars, mostly, no, not the original trilogy, those are fine. Star Trek as well) ruined the setting for me.
Oddly enough, I can’t get enough of Metroid (I even liked Other M, something MUST be wrong with me), despite it’s setting.
We need a Metroid/Alien cross over, with Samus fighting Xenomorphs.
October 22, 2013 at 5:09 pm
It’s funny. The Metroid Fusion story reminds me a little of the concept in these Alien movies (at least at the beginning). You are so underpowered that you have actually to hide from the main enemy (and also the X parasite kills its victims in order to morph itself and get their abilities)
October 22, 2013 at 12:48 pm
This is (almost) exactly what I thought when I came out of the theater where I watched Alien3 in 1992. So don’t expect that the movie will grow on you; it won’t.
Here is where I disagree: The ending sucks big time. Keep in mind: I saw that movie in 1992. Just a year before, I saw the exact same ending in Terminator 2. So, at that time, the “dramatic” ending was a cheap rippoff. I actually remember us guys sitting in the theater laughing at that ending throwing popcorn at the sreen.
October 22, 2013 at 12:57 pm
Been watching these ever since I was in 6th grade and even now that I’m a senior in high school you never cease to impress me with your reviews and commentary. Keep up the good work, James!
October 22, 2013 at 1:11 pm
It’s called Xenomorph not because it morph into something but because xenomorph mean alien in greek. 😛
October 22, 2013 at 2:21 pm
Exactly. “Morph” does not mean to change, it refers to form.
October 22, 2013 at 1:43 pm
Aww this is the review I was fearing. See, Alien 3 is my favorite, I really appreciate it’s bleak tone (I never liked Newt to begin with… She was just the cliche surviving kid with plot armor) and it’s setting. I thought the whole prison movie aspect was almost more interesting than the alien ordeal.
October 22, 2013 at 1:46 pm
Alien is one of my franchise and maybe this theory shed some new light on Alien 3 for some people http://forum.rpg.net/archive/index.php/t-271129.html
edit : fav franchise
October 22, 2013 at 2:14 pm
I believe she holds it at the end so that it wouldn’t be able to jump to any sort of safety.
October 22, 2013 at 2:18 pm
Am I the only one having buffering problems and sudden stuttering of the video?
October 22, 2013 at 2:19 pm
Yeah, Alien 3 is garbage. I know that it is official cannon, but having the alien adopt the features of its host is not only silly, it goes against the interrogation scene in Aliens where Ripley is explaining the events that unfolded aboard the Nostromo to the Weyland committee. In Aliens, it is explained that facehuggers implant embryos into their host. Now, embryos already have a full genetic makeup and the total number of chromosomes required for its species (whatever that may be in case of the Xenomorphs). So with a complete genome, a chestburster would not somehow leech genetic information from its host to complete its own genetic code, therefor adopting some of the traits of its host. Because of this, any host that a facehugger attaches itself to is merely a surrogate in which the future chestburster/xeno simply gestates within.
October 22, 2013 at 2:38 pm
I found the Alien 3 to be great also, not as good as the first two that gave me nightmares, but still it was great as what it was supposed to be.
Also, the dark part of humans in this movie, making the prisoners trying to rape Ripley and the android modeler trying to convince her so that She, that the would destroy the alien… It lays the egg of thought which are really worse, the human or the alien monster. Cause Alien is still just a beast acting to it’s instict(welp, still a biological weapon for the engineers, but still…), but humans being the evil and horrible creatures, trying to kill othes of their kind with it.
Anyway, thank You James, I hope to see the comments on the Resurrection and hopefully how much the Resident Evil movie series have used the idea from it.
October 22, 2013 at 2:39 pm
October 22, 2013 at 3:03 pm
great review, never been a huge fan of this film or Resurrection. And also awesome new AVGN episode.
October 22, 2013 at 3:26 pm
well i have to disagree with James on this one…Alien 3, i really hate the ending, really it looks cheap and cheesy i hate it since i saw it for the first time on theaters.
October 22, 2013 at 3:35 pm
alien to the third ? or alien cube?
October 22, 2013 at 4:20 pm
I understand why people would not care for this movie, I really do. But it’s not that bad considering that the first 2 movies were nearly impossible to live up to. I personally really enjoy the movie. I see it as a grim movie. It’s really dirty, dark, and not pleasant at all. There is also a sinister singing (in the background) during a lot of parts of the film, which makes it feel very gothic. It makes you feel uncomfortable (as many movies do like the Shining and the original Alien for example). Now that we know what the Aliens can do (even against armed marines), I find it interesting to see just how they have to deal with the alien without any weapons. It’s like a pure survival movie. I do remember the characters. Besides Ripley, there are others that have personalities.
Overall, it’s not nearly as good as the first 2, but if you don’t compare it to the other movies too much, it’s enjoyable. See it for yourself and decide.
It’s especially good when you compare it to Alien Resurrection.
October 22, 2013 at 4:22 pm
I remember this movie from a while back and I thought it was pretty good even though many fans hated it, I’ve yet to watch the previous movies so I guess until I do I won’t really understand why but I think people over reacted about it.
October 22, 2013 at 4:41 pm
i’ve never seen godfather 3 or alien 3
October 22, 2013 at 4:56 pm
Definitely a depressing Alien movie. I am probably one of the few people who thinks it is not bad, but rather under appreciated.
October 23, 2013 at 11:34 am
I know how you feel, man. I really like this movie. I’ve already left a comment defending this movie (listing its strong points) so I won’t go into as much detail. But you are not alone, my friend. I love the dark, gritty, gothic tone this movie has. So I think it’s pretty decent.
October 22, 2013 at 4:57 pm
Gearbox’ Aliens Colonial Marines is a Fox Approved sequel to Aliens (and in turn Alien 3) and it explains (Albeit poorly) that the dead guy in the opening of Alien3 wasn’t really Hicks, as he was captured by Weyland Yutani. It’s half-assed and it’s bullshit. The entire game is bullshit.
Alien3 is a masterpiece in comparison
October 22, 2013 at 4:58 pm
Great review, I actually thought the movie was good.
Not great, but good.
I know I have an unusual view here, but hear me out.
I love sequels, good or bad, I like the fact that they at least try. (better to have loved and lost etc)
October 22, 2013 at 5:10 pm
The assembly cut is very interesting, knowing the how the story’s original script. I like both versions, and have an appreciation for them that I didn’t when I first watched it.
At the end, Bishop is supposed to be the real Bishop to convince Ripley to let the company take the alien… but you can see that he is hit on the head with a wrench from the remaining prisoner and the company used another ploy, another android Bishop, and isn’t ever telling the truth to their goals. It comes off as a good analogy of the two evils in this movie… at least to me.
October 22, 2013 at 5:25 pm
I like the Alien 3 Assembly Cut better than the theatrical version, but I wish the Assembly Cut would use the theatrical ending with the queen chestburster.
October 22, 2013 at 5:28 pm
Totally right about wanting the movie to grow on you, i’m such a big fan of the other films but this one is just odd. Even the directors cut is lacking something.
October 22, 2013 at 5:59 pm
October 22, 2013 at 6:17 pm
I feel like I’m one of a very small group of people who fully appreciates this as a great movie. I actually put it on par with the first two movies, since I enjoy it so much. Then again, I’m also one of those people who like Spider-Man 3 and Street Fighter.
October 22, 2013 at 6:45 pm
Alien 3 was the biggest disappointment in film history. That is, until I saw Star Wars Episode 1.
October 22, 2013 at 7:04 pm
The problem for Alien 3 for me was that it regressed from the massive world of Aliens. Plus, they kill off so many characters from the second film, including Ripley. It really pissed me off because she went through all that shit in “Aliens” where she triumphed and confronted her fears only to be snatched away. Some people might like this film and that’s fine but as for me, it should’ve ended after the second film. That’s my take.
October 22, 2013 at 7:23 pm
I AM MAD WITH MONSTER MADNESS!!!
October 22, 2013 at 7:50 pm
October 22, 2013 at 8:05 pm
This film is a mess. Too many people reworking the script, constantly making up shit as they go. And the POV shot of the alien may be cool-looking but it doesn’t make any sense because the creature doesn’t have eyes! The ending is ok but doesn’t have much impact due to Alien: Resurrection. Prior to this, David Fincher had pretty much only directed Madonna’s Vogue music video.
October 22, 2013 at 8:33 pm
i really, REALLY like Alien 3, still one of my favorite movies.. i will never understand why so many fans of the series have such a problem with it, my only gripe was that it didn’t end with 3.. out of all the Alien movies its the only one which never gets old to me for some reason, i still watch it on rainy days. :/
October 22, 2013 at 8:52 pm
I like a lot Alien 3, the atmosphere is unique: depressing and claustrophonic. The color scheme used make it look like hell on earth.
It has flows, but anyway a very good movie.
October 22, 2013 at 10:30 pm
Yeah, Alien 3 is a decent movie, but nowhere near as good as the first two. I agree about feeling majorly cheated with the surviving characters from the second film getting killed off in the pods right at the beginning. Yeah, we did think this was the last Alien, same with Terminator. FOR YEARS, it seemed like this was the case. However, as you said, we were wrong, both times…
October 23, 2013 at 12:18 am
Blood and guts / Slimy too / Should have stopped / At movie two.
October 23, 2013 at 12:53 am
I think so too that Alien 3 is under rated ,but the 2 first was so good and captivating that the only thing that maybe think it’s not so bad is the ending. I was fourteen when I saw this movie and I was also disappointed by it … It’s a good trilogy to see ..Alien resurrection was the worst movie of the franchise ever they should had stop at 3 because of the ending .But the 2 first for me was enough !
October 23, 2013 at 1:11 am
Yeah.. The third is my least favorite too. Although, there was a lot of interesting idea that stuck to the franchise, which is good. I especially liked the company’s soldier at the end, they seemed big and menacing. I suspect that they were androids, which would make sense.
October 23, 2013 at 1:21 am
WHEN I SQUEEZE MY DICK MY BALLS JIGGLE
October 23, 2013 at 1:23 am
Personally I hated this as a kid back in the 90’s…but to be fair, the Assembly Cut has grown on me. I do feel it’s nowhere near as good as the first 2, but it has an unique feeling. The acting it’s top notch and the mood as said on this video, it’s dark and depressing. Now, I’ve seen all sorts of behind the scenes…and taking into special consideration the mess that it was for the production company and then newcomer David Fincher to pull this together…I’m actually surprised it turned out to be as good as it is. It’s just too bad Fincher didn’t have complete control over the Project…I would’ve loved seen the xenomorph with female lips and razor Sharp tongue killing the inmates with a kiss.
October 23, 2013 at 4:34 am
Awesome James that you reviewed this movie. I’m a HUUUUUUGE Alien series fan (more like nut but we all have problems). I do wish to put some of my 2 cents about this movie though.
I have to agree in saying that this movie is highly underrated. David Finch credits this movie as one of his worst movies and I can see why. Fox really fucked up everything when it came to getting this movie out and you did touch on that a bit. If you was to review this movie though, I would completely skip over the theatrical release and go straight to the assembly cut version. That version was the one that David Finch wanted to make but Fox, being the dumbasses they are sometimes, didn’t listen to him because he was a new director at the time (remember this is the same guy that directed Seven and Fight Club). Now I can see why you would talk about the original release because that is the one that everyone is going to know about.
For those that haven’t seen the assembly cut and don’t want to see it because of how bad you thought the original release was, do yourself a favor and watch it. It’s a COMPLETELY different movie. I can go on and on why to see it instead but you’d do yourself a bigger favor if you just set an hour and a half aside and watch it. I’ll admit I still kind of liked the original but did feel it was much weaker than part 1 and 2. When I finally got a chance to see the assembly cut, it’s now one of my favorites of the series. Everyone please do yourselves a favor and check it out. Well worth the watch if you like the Alien series.
October 23, 2013 at 8:12 pm
“go straight to the assembly cut version. That version was the one that David Finch wanted to make”
Not even close. It is a bit more faithful to Fincher’s vision but not that much, it’s still an alternate studio cut as David Fincher never wanted to heard about this movie again. He even said on a joking tone that to make a Director’s Cut of Alien 3, he would have to re-shoot it entirely…
October 24, 2013 at 4:51 am
Yep you’re right. Thanks for the correction. Still the Assembly cut is far better.
October 23, 2013 at 6:14 am
Facehuggers don’t lay eggs in the host, they manipulate the hosts DNA to grow the embryo, it grows like a tumor. That’s why the alien shares aspects with its host, the aliens grown in humans are tall and move bipedal, the one grown from a dog is smaller, moves on all fours, is faster and more instinct driven -> less smart. Also look at the AVP movies, the aliens grown in predators resemble predators, and in Prometheus hints it as well with the DNA manipulating black goo etc. Also, as the facehuggers proboscis goes into the hosts windpipe (see the first alien movie) where would the egg go? The lungs?
October 23, 2013 at 3:11 pm
Thanks as usual ;).
I think they shouldn’t have stopped at number two but should’ve been more careful with this one. Is it really true that this alien wasn’t CG? That was the main thing that put me off, the alien looking kinda fake at least in some shots. With the “uncut” version I was more content but I didn’t get to see that until I got my blu-ray edition which was many many years later.
October 23, 2013 at 4:22 pm
If you guys are looking for a little more background on Alien three, check out “What Happened to the Alien and Predator Series” by LittleJimmy83542. Also, definitely watch the assembly cut over the normal one. It’s so much better.
October 23, 2013 at 6:22 pm
it wasn’t that bad
I liked the entirees series
October 23, 2013 at 7:30 pm
Again james you have the same thoughts as i regarding movies like those.
October 23, 2013 at 9:09 pm
Alien 3 falls short of the first two films, but it would be hard to reach the same levels of greatness without rehashing the same elements. While the first is one of the great classic thrillers of the modern American Sci-Fi genre, and Aliens being a perfect representative of the 80s/90s big action thrill rides (pioneered by the likes of Paul Verhoeven and James Cameron), Alien 3 manages to deviate from the first two and goes for a more darker, almost Gothic theme. Sometimes the atmosphere alone drives a movie like this one, even if it is bleak. I felt that the suspense wasn’t so much delivered by the events revealed to the audience (which were sometimes predicable), but in by revealing them to us and not the characters, it left a feeling of dread. Seeing them slowly discover what we already know, similar to the bomb under the seat example that Hitchcock liked to use, builds up tension, even if we are sure that it will eventually release at the point of discovery. The game plan near the end of the film (trapping the Alien) was a typical fubar suicide mission you see in many of these kind of films, which plays off as cliche, but I felt the film still made up for it in atmosphere. Yes we probably knew that the prisoners were going to die, but it was interesting how they came together as a motley crew in their feeble attempt at survival.
October 24, 2013 at 6:27 pm
James! Please watch the Extended cut in the new aliens bluray collection. Ripley is almost a supporting character. It’s more about the guys in the prison and has a lot of really awesome underlying themes. I feel like you get a lot more out of it. This might sound horrible, but it’s almost like Shawshank Redemption, haha.
Excellent Review as always. 🙂
October 24, 2013 at 10:25 pm
I like number 3, sure its not as good as 1 or 2 but it has a serious dark vibe to it. I much prefer it over number 4 which tries to be dark but trips over and becomes goofy.
October 25, 2013 at 5:42 am
I though it was great that all the chracters died. i never liked any of survivers except Bishop to begin with and was happy they got rid of it.
ANd if you really didnt notice it acted like a dog…. maybe you should ahve paid more attention when trying to review.
October 25, 2013 at 6:33 am
James forgot about the orange cat (I forgot his name). He was killed by a Face-Hugger, too.
October 25, 2013 at 11:52 pm
I watched this movie about a year ago and I when I was done I thought that movie was okay but somewhat boring. The reason why I say that is because of the weird chain of events such as the plan to kill the Alien creature seem a bit weird and hard to grasp, but then again I was watching this a 3am so that’s one reason why I say that. I also liked at how Ripley was willing to sacrifice herself at the end in order to put a stop to this, kinda like Bud Brigman in The Abyss when he goes down the 3 and a half mile trench to try and disarm the warhead and maybe make contact with the alien species. Overall the movies okay, but if I had to buy for my movie collection, I wouldn’t, it;s watchable but not remarkable.
October 26, 2013 at 2:28 am
Alien 3 is an allegory for HIV & AIDS, and that’s why it’s so depressing. I’m not making this up– Google it!
October 26, 2013 at 6:05 pm
i liken alien 3 to metallicas black album. nowhere near as good as the previous aliens, but much much better than anything after.
October 26, 2013 at 11:22 pm
How the fuck did the ship catch fire? IN SPACE!?!
October 29, 2013 at 1:45 pm
It was acidic smoke that set off the alarms, or the acid blood melted wires and plastic leading to an electrical fire.
October 26, 2013 at 11:28 pm
If you played Aliens: CM or go onto Xenopiedia, you’ll know that Hicks was still on LV-426 and that guy was a Weyland-Yutani Imposter
October 29, 2013 at 1:44 pm
I do agree that this movie is a downer, however I just feel that there is a beauty in it. Although I would rather almost any other script to the Fincher one (not that it was easy for him).
I am a musical geek so I have to say in advance that the soundtrack almost brings me to tears with it’s beauty.
I’m often blasting ‘Alien: A Biomechanical Symphony’ when I have the peace and quiet to appreciate it.
however, I just find that the one problem I had with this movie was the lack of ‘padding out’ to support the story. I do agree the assembly cut is a much better watch, but it’s just really irritating that this film had SOOO MUCH POTENTIAL!
November 5, 2013 at 2:07 pm
The “assembly cut” as its known is way better than the theatrical release. It’s rough (as the added scenes are largely unfinished) but it fleshes out the story and the characters much more – and all of the gaping plotholes of the original version are filled.
Admittedly though – all of the problems with it that you mention here are still present.
But I like Alien 3 despite it’s flaws, and I’m glad I do. It’s cool. The first two are probably my most favourite films ever in the world, and I’m glad that the third is decent enough and that largely it differs from them.
Alien Resurrection, however, can go suck a dick.
November 11, 2013 at 1:41 am
Nice review James, I agree w/ the extra extra extra depressing tone of the movie. After watching this review, it made me want to watch ‘Terminator 2: Judgement Day’ 😛
November 13, 2013 at 3:38 am
To me Alien 3 was alright. I mean it’s not one of the best movies i have ever seen. But it’s not one of the worst i have ever seen either. I actually like the idea about fighting an alien with no gun. i actually do. Anyway i give Alien 3 3/5. It’s watchable.