Mike Matei / October 20th, 2013
October 20, 2013 at 4:38 am
first alien was the best
October 20, 2013 at 5:58 am
I agree. the original Alien is by far the best film of the series and one of the best films ever made.
October 20, 2013 at 4:21 pm
Noway dude, the 2nd one is and always will be the best Alien movie! The first one is very very good, but Aliens is superior to the first one.
October 22, 2013 at 6:26 pm
Except for the 2nd half of the film, as James pointed out. When something finally happens, it’s boring, predictable, and routine. The first half was great and promised us an even better 2nd half but it never came.
October 20, 2013 at 6:07 pm
Both films are excellent in different ways. Alien is an atmospheric horror film, and Aliens is an action film. I love them both in different ways.
October 20, 2013 at 11:02 pm
But what about the second “Aliens” directed by James Cameron, he set the standard of anything to do with the marines. Hardcore fans remember the clothing and style of the first film, but most video games and such use the look and style of the marine armour in Aliens. And to not forget about the memerable line of “GAME OVER MAN!” and the quen….. and lovable Newt
October 21, 2013 at 3:53 am
I agree. The first was the best based upon a variety of its aesthetics & concepts. Aliens is more of a crowd-pleasing, well crafted action film. Not a better film, but a vastly more appealing film to mainstream audiences.
October 21, 2013 at 7:01 pm
well said Marc_Lawson. not to spoil everyone else’s fun thinking that Aliens is inferior to the original, but it’s true. the original 1979 Alien has and will always be the best Alien film in the entire franchise from 1979 until the end of time.
October 22, 2013 at 11:44 pm
Guys, he’s full of shit. He used the word “first” first in his first.
October 23, 2013 at 8:33 pm
It had legendary filmmaker Ridley Scott heading it. People never mention it when speaking about the birth of the slasher genre but Alien had a much wider audience than Halloween and led to many people as a result branching out to Halloween or other like movies with one scary central element picking off the cast.
October 20, 2013 at 4:42 am
Yesterday, I just had a feeling that next monster is gonna be Xenomorph!
October 20, 2013 at 4:46 am
I just watched Alien as I was going through James’ history of horror. I have a completely new understanding and appreciation for this genre thanks to James. Also as a kid I loved Alien, but never thought of it as a slasher flick, but it totally fits the bill.
October 20, 2013 at 3:20 pm
I never noticed the thing about how the alien keeps changing shape, making you wonder what it will become next. In retrospect I should have guessed, it’s even called a Xenomorph which means ‘many-shapes.’
October 20, 2013 at 6:09 pm
Wanna blow your mind? Predator is also a slasher film. A handful of victims are stalked and killed one by one. Yup! Instead of a bunch of babysitters it’s a bunch of badass commando’s. I love it!
October 20, 2013 at 4:49 am
What a badass series! Great work! Please spoof the hell out of those crappy cross-overs!
October 20, 2013 at 4:56 am
I actually thought Alien was too obvious. I had expected something more “cult” like Critters.
October 20, 2013 at 8:35 am
I love Critters. Was hoping for that, too.
October 21, 2013 at 12:09 am
Guys, he already reviewed Critters in the Camp Cult series a year or two ago.
October 20, 2013 at 10:37 am
Try to watch things in context. There was nothing obvious about this movie in 1979. This is a straight up masterpiece.
October 20, 2013 at 3:58 pm
get a load of Joker missing the point. He meant as an obvious choice and I was hoping for critters too. say what you will about critters but it had some interesting elements to it. the shape shifting bounty hunters are definitely cool and I wish there was spin offs of them hunting creatures…
Fuck yeah 13 minutes thank you James!
October 20, 2013 at 5:04 am
First saw this movie when I was FIVE YEARS OLD. one of the few movies that really scared me (the other was John Carpenters The Thing saw it when I was about four) was afraid of the dark until I was like nine.
October 20, 2013 at 5:06 am
great way to start the day
October 20, 2013 at 5:08 am
Wow, i thought this was an old episode. I can’t believe you hadn’t added this franchise to Monster madness yet. Good deal.
October 20, 2013 at 5:47 am
He did do Alien in his first Monster Madness back in 2007
October 20, 2013 at 5:15 am
Yes, i love the first Alien but i love even more the second one. I will explain myself tomorrow.
This, anyway, has really a better sense of getting into a world, it’s so well set that you wanted this world to be real…well aside from all the alien part, maybe.
October 20, 2013 at 6:29 am
I don’t like Aliens as much as everyone else and I tend to see it as a highly over-rated and flawed film. I also would like to explain why tomorrow.
October 23, 2013 at 8:37 pm
It depends on which type of movie you like more as to which of the first two you lean more towards. Generally people that like action over suspenseful horror like Aliens the best and vice versa.
October 20, 2013 at 5:30 am
OMG James! I love you!
The whole Alien series is a forgotten gem
October 20, 2013 at 5:44 am
I wish I could un-watch Prometheus, it was such a pile of Xenomorph crap.
October 20, 2013 at 6:08 am
The creepy fact is this jaw inside the jaw already exist in real life. Its a feature of the moray eel, the pharyngeal jaw.
You can see videos in Youtube and its damn disturbing.
October 20, 2013 at 6:18 am
well done James. first, I strongly think that the original Alien is by far the best film of the series and also one of the best films ever made. second, the reason alien creature in the 1st film is so terrifying is because it could not die. it was shot in the chest with a harpoon, and shot out of the engine of the Narcissus, and it still didn’t die. put it simply, it was a unkillable demon. the film seemed very much like a nightmare that kept getting worse and worse as the events progressed. third, the sequel Aliens completely de-mystifies the creature itself. I think the less you know about something, the more frightening it becomes. the aliens in the sequel has been downgraded to a simple bug that can be killed easily. Aliens has a lot of flaws that I cannot over look when it comes to characters and plot. Alien 3 I tend to like better since it goes back to it’s original routes. Alien Resurrection just flat out sucks. overall, nicely done James on doing 2 reviews at once.
October 20, 2013 at 6:25 am
even ash said in once scene when Ripley asked if it could be killed, he said “you can’t”. Alien is so frightening because the creature cannot die. and most creatures that we fear the most are the ones that cannot be killed. this film is one of the most realistic sci-fi films I have ever seen too. personally, the film also feels very retro. it’s a little hard to explain but I guess it’s because this was only 2 years after Star Wars and to me the 70’s were the golden years of blockbuster flicks. this film never gets old and it’s one of my personal favorites. Alien is such a classic that it holds up strongly even after 35 years. that’s why I think it’s still the best film of the series. like everyone says, you can’t beat the original. and they’re right.
October 20, 2013 at 6:23 am
I think the reason Weyland was played by Guy Pearce (and not an actual old man) was that there was a deleted scene showing a young weyland. It was easier to make a young man look old rather than an old man look young.
October 20, 2013 at 6:28 am
no, that was a viral video showing a young peter weyland at a press conference called TED Talk 2023. they posted that video online many months before the release of Prometheus. this is that video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb7gspHxZiI
October 20, 2013 at 6:48 am
It takes some real special direction and cinematography to surpass such scenes of hitting at home gut horror.
October 20, 2013 at 7:44 am
I had an alien comic book with superman in it, so nostalgic!!
October 20, 2013 at 7:54 am
Ahh, finally! my favourite scifi series. Go James =) you are the best
October 20, 2013 at 7:59 am
Finally a real movie!
And yes Aliens is the best of em all.
October 20, 2013 at 8:11 am
I love the Alien universe. So deep and rich. I always go back and forth between the first and second film as being my favorite, but as I’ve gotten older the original stands out as a true masterpiece (though the sequel sure is fun to watch). Can’t wait to hear your opinion of the third turd of a movie.
Glad you touched on Prometheus there, too. It was such a polarizing film, but I thought it was one of the best Sci-Fi films to come out in years.
October 20, 2013 at 8:24 am
Great video as always, especially now that you are on to the greatest franchise of all time!
October 20, 2013 at 8:29 am
Woohoo, so happy that you are doing the Alien franchise, can’t wait for one of my all time favs tomorrow!
October 20, 2013 at 8:32 am
Alien is a masterpiece. James said everything about it, so there isn’t much left so say.
But Prometheus… that’s another story. If you haven’t seen the movie yet and want to, there are spoilers ahead. Don’t read further.
The movie could have been so much better, in my opinion, if it actually featured the Xenomorph. This black liquid thing is just stupid. I mean it makes sense that the Space-Jockeys created a biological weapon so they don’t need the Xenomorphs to do the job. As James said, the Xenomorphs are a thread by themselves. The liquid just creates mutants. But it’s so stupid that the liquid creates creatures that are so similar to the Xenomorph. It mutates worms into snake-like Facehuggers or through the “pregnant” woman into an octopus that then impregnates the Space-Jockey with a Proto-Xenomorph. “WTF” is the only thing that comes to my mind about that. Either the black liquid is some kind of Xenomorph-DNA, the very gene that defines them, or it is their origin and they are a mutation that the Jockeys created from the liquid. But it’s still totally unnecessary. Either have the Xenomorph or a completely new enemy, but not a liquid that just seems to create life forms that look and behave like the alien without actually being the alien.
As far as I know, Ridley Scott wanted to have the Xenomproh in this but it never made it into the movie because 20th Century Fox pressed him to remove it from the script. The only thing left is the wall-painting of the creature in the ship.
October 20, 2013 at 8:40 am
“Hello my baby, hello my darling, hello my rag-time gaaaallll”
October 20, 2013 at 10:54 am
October 20, 2013 at 8:59 am
one of my fav movies and the best of the series
October 20, 2013 at 9:01 am
So much for Sequel-a-thon 2…Alien is an amazing film…and the series is pretty good (but sucks after Aliens), yet he has time to do a non-sequel, but not the series many have been requesting, Friday the 13th…
Oh well, there’s always next ye…probably not…
Keep up the good work though James…
October 20, 2013 at 6:13 pm
I dont get why people want him to make 10+ videos on that crappy series. He should make 2 just to keep you guys happy. First about the original movie, and how garbage it is despite the praise its wrongfully given. and the next video on 2 through 10, since they are all the same tired formula anyway.
October 20, 2013 at 8:06 pm
Any and all of the Friday the 13th movies are superior to the shit that is Alien Resurrection…that in and of itself negates your views…
October 20, 2013 at 9:04 am
anyone else think Popeye restaurants Rip n Chicken look like facehuggers, i always did, who eats that? what were they thinking?!?
October 20, 2013 at 9:11 am
I never thought The Company knew about the organism beforehand. The reason for checking the distress signal is explaied in the first 5 minutes of the movie. Ash discoveres much later what what they found. True, he lets the away team back into the ship, despite Ripley’s clear quarantine order, but I always thought it was his and Mother’s decision, made on the spot.
October 20, 2013 at 9:26 am
My dad showed this to me when I was 8 and it scared the shit out of me.
My favorite si-if horror film of all. Great review. I also was
Confused with Prometheus. But still found it a
Great movie review.
October 20, 2013 at 9:51 am
they’re going to give away AVGN Adventures Steam codes at nesmarathon.com! in about 10 minutes!! 😀
Yes! I totally called it! And 13 minutes! Damn! Thanks for all the content as usual!!!
October 20, 2013 at 9:59 am
Nice job, James. That scene with Ash blew me away as a kid when i first watched this movie. I was totally stunned when his head was knocked off! I also always felt kinda funny when you see Sigourney in her undies…
October 20, 2013 at 10:56 am
Funny like when you used to climb the rope in Gym Class?
October 20, 2013 at 10:53 am
only 10 minutes left for the give away of AVGN Adventures Steam code at nesmarathon.com!
October 20, 2013 at 10:59 am
I FUCKING KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also, I’ve gotta say, I like Aliens more than Alien but Alien is still a great film and an even better horror film.
October 20, 2013 at 11:07 am
Prometheus IS a direct prequel to Alien, it’s just separated in 2 parts, with part 1 being a cheap cliffhanger and upcoming part 2 closing all the gaps.
It also sucks monkey balls.
October 20, 2013 at 11:14 am
I kinda liked it. I mean it will NEVER be as good as the first three (yes I said THREE) alien films but, it’s still a cool movie on it’s own. I think why I liked it so much is because I didn’t even know it was an Alien prequel until a few weeks before I saw the film. Even then I just put it out of my mind and watched the movie. I think on it’s own, it’s a good film. I think what the problem was about this film is that it was connected to one of the greatest horror/sci-fi films of all time and it was built up to be as good as that and when it wasn’t, people were upset.
October 20, 2013 at 11:52 am
He did have a good point though. It’s not the same ship. It’s not the same planet/moon.
October 20, 2013 at 1:27 pm
I liked that about the movie; the core four Alien films made the plot this linear string of events revolving around Ripley, but if you get into the extended universe (particularly the comics) it’s a much bigger and complex scope regarding the Xenomorphs. It’s hinted at in the first part of the original film, then put on the back burner when it goes horror.
October 20, 2013 at 11:08 am
4:52 Haha, I see what ya did there, James. Very clever.
October 20, 2013 at 11:25 am
hope you run the entire alien franchise! includen AVP 🙂
October 20, 2013 at 11:41 am
“I can’t think of anything more horrifying than a living creature living inside you waiting to burst out.”
Didn’t you just have a new daughter like 2 months ago?
October 21, 2013 at 1:03 am
I was hoping for a quick shot of his wife giving him a sour look while holding their baby. It would have been a pretty good gag.
We do find out what happens in that room James.. you just have to wait until Prometheus lol.
October 20, 2013 at 11:44 am
Glad to see the Alien series getting the Monster Madness treatment. You know a series is badass when even the worst films in it are still a worthwhile watch.
AWESOME. Thank you, a monster from my generation!
No offense, honestly I love all your reviews James. You make every movie sound great, and have introduced me to so many great flicks I’ve checked out because of you.
But nostalgic reviews I love because you show me things I never noticed before.
October 20, 2013 at 11:49 am
I didn’t like the old weyland either bit I think it was on purpose.. He was supposed to look artificially old as if he has lived longer than he should have by unnatural means. But it still looked kinda stupid.
October 20, 2013 at 11:59 am
Thanks for the explanation to Prometheus. Needed that…
October 20, 2013 at 12:49 pm
I really love the Alien films (as in 1 and 2). The original film is brilliantly done and always keeps me interested even though I know how it’s going to end. Prometheus is also done rather well. Ridley Scott set it up to answer just a few questions posed by Alien, but in fact created many more. I really hope to see how that series plays out.
October 20, 2013 at 1:12 pm
nice, my favorite science fiction horror film. And my 2nd favorite Ridley Scott film after Blade Runner!!!
October 20, 2013 at 1:53 pm
Great video! Thank you!
But I think you’re wrong when it comes to the point if Prometheus really is a prequel to Alien or not. These two storylines will connect and Prometheus was never planed to be only one part. You’ve got to see it as a Prequel series of movies.
I really do think that there is a connection between the original Xenomorphs and the one in the end of Prometheus. The gab just needs to be closed.
They didn’t use a “real” old man because they were running a marketing campaign (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJq-lGM2Pqo) with the “young” weyland for Prometheus.
Therefore I think it was a very smart idea to use the sam actor. I totally love Guy Pearce’s work.
There are some aspects of the movie that I myself think could have been solved in a better way:
1. Why did the geographer get lost?
2. Why id the biologist afraid of the dead body that is thousands of years old but is perfectly fine with an obviously dangerous snakelike creature trying to attack him?
3. Why can’t blondi turn left or right in the end of the movie when the spaceship is about to roll over her?
October 20, 2013 at 1:58 pm
i loved this video , thanks to you I watched halloween , friday the 13th , and elm st. thank you for your awesome videos
October 20, 2013 at 1:59 pm
This is gonna be good
October 20, 2013 at 2:55 pm
Ive always liked Aliens more than the first one. Alien just seems like every other cliche horror movie, except they set it in space. Aliens is the most badass action movie
October 20, 2013 at 3:03 pm
I love watching this series after dusk !
October 20, 2013 at 3:21 pm
cool explanation on Prometheus, I love that film and have seen it like 6 times since its release. But I was still a bit hazy on some parts, you answered some questions for me!!
October 20, 2013 at 3:54 pm
I was hoping he was going to mention the infamous rumor about the chest-burster scene. It’s unconfirmed whether this is true, but supposedly the rest of the cast aside from John Hurt didn’t know what was going to happen when they shot that scene, so their shock and revulsion at seeing the alien burst out was real.
Also, that thing with the company wanting to preserve the alien and bring it back, I never got the impression that they specifically wanted to use it as a weapon. I get that they wanted to study and learn from it, and weaponizing it may have been an option, or maybe coming up with ways to create new bio-weapons. The point is, that whole development made the thing that much scarier; not only are they isolated in space, but the company that sent them out there considers them expendable. There is no help coming. The corporate interests are valued more than their lives.
With regard to Prometheus, I think that was originally intended to be a prequel to Alien, but as he’s developed an unfortunate habit of doing in recent years, Ridley Scott decided halfway through shooting that it was going to be a different film. He shot all that stuff intending it to be a setup for Alien, but then changed his mind and shot a bunch of different stuff, but still used the footage he already shot. That’s why the film was so confusing; it was schizophrenic mess that couldn’t make up its mind about what movie it was. It’s the same reason why Robin Hood was such a disaster: Ridley Scott can no longer commit to a plan for how to make a film.
October 20, 2013 at 3:55 pm
Prometheus was such a letdown, I’m glad James didn’t give it a stand alone video.
October 20, 2013 at 4:15 pm
Wasn’t there an arcade game with the same name ? And I’m not talking about Aliens. I managed to play it back in the late 1990’s but it’s an old game. A few years back i tried looking for this game over the web any help?
I am agree with James (and everyone else) that the original “Alien” is a great, great, great movie. I just love every frame of it.
But “Prometheus” is one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen in a theatre. Not becauase the “unanswered questions” but because the plotholes, the stupidity of the characters and, more important, the lack of any narrative coherence. There is no “story” there. At the end, the movie is about nothing, just a bunch of random scenes one after another.
October 20, 2013 at 6:20 pm
I blame the studio. Might have been an interesting flick if they didn’t force him to inject action scenes into it. Maybe.
October 20, 2013 at 4:31 pm
Awesome i love ALIEN so cool.
October 20, 2013 at 4:39 pm
First Alien movie that seemed like it could be real. They’re just people working in space who happen to run into this alien problem.
October 20, 2013 at 4:53 pm
I should have said first alien movie in space that seemed real. Because, Close Encounters of the Third Kind was also a movie about aliens, but on Earth and that seemed real as well.
October 20, 2013 at 4:46 pm
The first Alien film was pretty good, but the sequel, Aliens, is the absolute best in the series. Alien 3, still pretty good, but not as good as the one before it. And don’t get me started on the pile of crap that was Alien Resurrection….I mean I guess it’s an okay popcorn flick, but it doesn’t hold up nearly as well as it’s predecessors.
October 20, 2013 at 4:48 pm
And here’s something that always freaked me out about these movies; the fact that you’re basically getting raped and impregnated by an alien just makes me feel sick to my stomach. I can’t even stop to think about it much, otherwise I might vomit. 🙁
October 20, 2013 at 4:56 pm
I agree and disagree. It depends on what you like. Alien was more of horror film and Aliens, while having some horror elements, was more of a balls to the wall, kick ass science fiction action movie. So depending on what you, you’ll prefer either Alien or Aliens or both like me.
October 20, 2013 at 4:51 pm
Man I was hoping you would do a whole separate video analyzing Prometheus, but great video regardless!
October 20, 2013 at 5:59 pm
I like how James points out that its plot is very similar to the ’50s B-movie he mentioned, but doesn’t hold that against it. Some people would just go all rip-off police and trash it.
Most of the late ’70s sci-fi films were very derivative. Star Wars is legendary for its many influences, Superman was mostly the familiar origin with some generic daring-do. The Black Hole was 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea in space, Moonraker was Thunderball in space and Star Trek: the Motion Picture had a lot of similarities with the episode “The Changeling.” All of this is to say Alien was in good company.
October 20, 2013 at 6:44 pm
I loved Alien and Aliens, but I hated Prometheus so much. There are three major ways that the film failed.
First, what made Alien work so well is something James touched on. It’s a grounded sci-fi movie. All of the characters act normal and are relateable. It normalizes space travel and everyone working on the ship feels blue collar, like modern day miners or cargo ship sailors. No one and nothing in Prometheus is grounded. It’s hard to relate or get attached to anyone, and people’s actions defy common scenes and logic. A lot of normalcy is thrown out of the window for sake of an attempt to reach for symbolism, which I’ll touch on in a bit.
The second one is logical science and biology. In being a simpler movie, Alien accidentally makes nearly everything that happens scienficily grounded. There’s nothing about how the Xenomorph works or anything that happens that defies basic science, and everyone reacts to medical situations and emergencies logically with all the correct and common scense precautions. I happened to view Prometheus with my girlfriend, who is a microbiologist that works in a secure lab site, and she nearly walked of the movie in anger about how much was done wrong during the autopsy scene. It’s really overlooked by critics looking for problems with the movie, but it’s probably the worst scene. Nothing they do make sense, many of the tools wouldn’t work they way they use them, they don’t follow common safety procedure throughout the whole movie, and in no way does the subject react in a biologically logical manner unlike the xenomorphs in previous movies. I seriously can’t break down how bad that scene is like she can, and when I bring it up she get’s so angry she visibly shakes with indignation. It doesn’t help we watched the movie after a marathon of the other Alien films.
Last is in my area of expertise. I have a degree in religious philosophy and history, and all of the attempted symbolism is completely misplaced and off. It’s painfully obvious that Ridley Scott didn’t understand the Prometheus story from Greek mythology. The Prometheus was a titan that gave humanity the knowledge of fire and was punished by the gods to forever suffer for it. For some reason fire is misconstrued as life by a lot of contemporary authors, but nothing could be farther from the truth. Fire is simply technology, something that brings humanity closer to the power level of the Greek gods, and Prometheus may have pitied humanity, but he was no predecessor to Jesus or any other messiah figure. Prometheus is among the last of the titans who were usurped by the Greek gods, and he has an incentive to accelerate the newest race on the block, humanity, so they can do the same to the gods on Olympus for what essentially amounts to classical Greek tradgic revenge. Knowing this, Zeus punishes Prometheus as he does, but Prometheus will likely have the last laugh as we will take that power of fire and eventually take our place on Olympus after overthrowing the gods. It’s true that the Prometheus molded humanity from clay in some stories while Hera breathed life into them, again this serves the goal of usurping the gods.
You can see where Scott tried to put some of this in his movie, with humans attempting to do what the Engineers did with AI. But in attempting to confligrate it with the Chariot of the Gods theory (Aliens seeding humanity and Judeo-Christian symbolism it doesn’t quite work. I get the “history repeating itself” theme with us messing with powers we don’t control, but again the Greek myth doesn’t teach this lesson as its all about power control between powers, one of which humanity may actually eventually win with no consequence besides us being as powerful as gods in the future once we learn how to wield it properly. Judeo-Christian themes do hit on this quite often, but nothing directly referenced in the film actually points to these parts of the Bible or any other holy book.
Take for example the planet named after the Leviticus passage 22:3 “For the generations to come, if any of your descendants is ceremonially unclean and yet comes near the sacred offerings… that person must be cut off from my presence. I am the Lord.” Again you can kinda see what Scott is going for almost, but it doesn’t quite fit because that passage is talking about ancient Jewish tradition which proves one’s spiritual worth and being closer to some powerful objects from biblical history. It’s not about the sacredness of life or the humanity needing to know its place, which are the themes we are supposed to get form the movie.
Whatever allegory being made is a real stretch, just like the title of the film in biological engineering humanity and how the characters even come to the conclusion that this accurate. Quite honestly the scientist act more like religious nutters putting their faith in their theory with no supporting evidence that the Engineers creating humanity, and the only reason we know they are right is because we see it in the title sequence. Given the logic the characters follow in the story, if I wrote a sequel that ignored that sequence, it wouldn’t be a stretch to show that they were all wrong and the engineers did nothing to seed humanity.
Scott didn’t even get basic rationalist bound scientific methods correct, and in this the movie really just feels like a movie that wants to make a point from the point of view of someone who has no real understanding of the religions, philosophies, or sciences he has on display in the film.
October 21, 2013 at 3:37 am
Although I completely understand where you’re coming from in your frustration with certain aspects of the film, I think you might be missing the point with your arguments. Prometheus is science fiction, emphasis on the fiction. Not real. Free to take whatever creative liberty necessary to tell the story created by those involved with the production.
I’m fairly certain Prometheus wasn’t made to be a soapbox to preach religious accuracy or scientific literacy. It’s awesome when a film does choose to be accurate in certain regards so long as it serves the story, but it isn’t a absolute necessity. Gladiator certainly wasn’t a historicly accurate film, but it is widely loved as a creative and moving film. I don’t think Prometheus should be held to a special degree of accountability just because of its subject matter. Prometheus is not a scientific paper to be submitted for review, it’s a fictitious film.
I think there are many problems with the film, like spotty acting in some parts and weird character motivations, but disliking it for not being perfectly representative of reality seems somewhat flawed in my opinion. I mean if this film was a documentary, I would be just as critical as you are. I love documentaries with people like Carl Sagan, Richard Dawkins or David attenborough that do get to the truth of the universe through rigorous science and critical thinking, but Prometheus is not a documentary.
I respect your objective opinions on why you don’t like the film, but I personally disagree. This is why I like James’ reviews, he gives movies a fair shake. He critiques them as the entertainment and art that they are. He doesn’t rant and rave about the scientific inaccuracies of Godzilla.
October 21, 2013 at 4:42 pm
This illustrates how bad the movie is to me, because the other Alien movies (especially the first 2) got all of this right without trying. It really proves the less is more philosophy. Because the other movies weren’t trying to be some allegory for quasi-rebellious philosophy it didn’t’ have a chance to totally get all of that wrong. What amazes me is how well the science holds up, as nothing to my knowledge is unbelievable about how the characters work, live, and act in their future universe. The way the xenomorphs work, the way people use their tools and handle autopsies and enviroments all work because they simply follow common sense. I don’t even think these movies had a scientific adviser of any kind, and Ridley Scott made the first one well enough.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that if a filmaker isn’t an expert or have access to experts on the subject matter he’s trying to introduce in his film, then he shouldn’t bother. Especially if he’s adding to a franchise that ether has nothing to do with those themes or has been pretty good about upholding logic, science, and the suspension of disbelief up to this point.
Old man not played by old man: Maybe they just didn’t have an actor on hand who was quite that ancient.
October 20, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Great to hear you talk about this film James! Love your insight into movies as usual, you have quite the keen eye for details.
October 20, 2013 at 7:10 pm
never saw the original alien but i have the full collection on vhs might as well do a whole sitting because this made me so excited to watch it
October 20, 2013 at 7:21 pm
Prometheus was a horrid train wreck of a film with a nonsensical story… too bad as I had very high hopes for it.
October 20, 2013 at 7:42 pm
The company’s plan was to get a member of the crew infected and then put them in cryo to bring back.
October 20, 2013 at 8:02 pm
Prometheus had me grossed out far more than Alien
October 20, 2013 at 8:11 pm
My favourite movie of all time! Fucking awesome, James!
October 20, 2013 at 8:22 pm
October 20, 2013 at 8:36 pm
I have to agree, the first Alien movie is likely the best, but I also like Aliens a lot as well. I’m glad James took the time to talk about Prometheus. I was interested to hear his opinion about it.
October 20, 2013 at 9:20 pm
Man, I was hoping my theory was right which was that James reviewed more modern movies near the end of Monster Madness.
I like the old movies, but I haven’t seen as many so it’s just hard to spend half the month watching reviews for older movies. As someone who is a moderate movie buff BUT it isn’t their life dream, these older movies can be too much at once.
It’s just like how people would get bored if I sat around and talked about the Cray-1, Intel 8080, etc for a half of a month.
Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate it, and months later I will go back and watch them one at a time and be wowed. It’s not that I don’t like the episodes. I get SO excited every time we get near October, I’m just whining about someone else who is more dedicated than almost any of us, and that makes me much worse than him.
THAT BEING SAID, I’m excited we are up to Alien because.. SOMEHOW I’ve managed to see Alien, Alien 3, and Alien Resurrection but NOT Aliens. Can’t wait to see his review. I also saw Alien last and it BLEW MY MIND. The sets/pacing/etc were just amazing to me.
The only thing that makes me sad is that.. I was REALLY hoping this was the year that we would get Friday the 13th, especially since it’s a sequel-a-thon and I can’t see a reason for him to review 12 movies otherwise.
Since there are four movies in Alien, and 10 movies in Friday the 13th proper (excludes Freddy vs. Jason and the remake) I guess this just isn’t possible.
Normally I would say that he should do it next but I realize that he films these throughout the year (or at least I believe I remember him saying that. It would be crazy, especially now, to do it with his EXTRA busy schedule consisting of.. work, his family, and hell, … life).
I’ll be happy either way. James is the man and I can’t think of ANYONE who puts this much effort into their work. Truly inspiring and anyone who has even attempted to make videos online recognizes this, I guarantee it.
October 20, 2013 at 11:52 pm
I think that he’s trying to show the best of each of these types of monster movies. A lot of modern monster movies are just remakes of classics. Also, it would be hard to review modern movies in something like a “sequel-a-thon” since it usually takes a while for movies to accumulate so many notable sequels and spinoffs. It is also interesting that you mention Friday the 13th since that started in 1980.
October 20, 2013 at 9:44 pm
If you are going to review Alien versus Predator don’t forget that the creator said that the predators in AvP were elite (despite being killed by something like 2 aliens) and that the predator that managed to kill all but one of an elite commando squad of trained humans was a baby by comparison.
October 20, 2013 at 10:24 pm
PLEASE include Prometheus in this series!
October 20, 2013 at 10:47 pm
YYYEEESSSSSS!!!!!! I’ve been waiting for this!!!! The most terrifying creature in monster movie history! Behold H.R. Gigers Necronom IV! As fantastic as it is terrible!