Mike / October 25th, 2011
October 25, 2011 at 3:04 am
First! Love your work james!
October 25, 2011 at 3:07 am
watching part 3 now! Great review as always
October 25, 2011 at 3:11 am
FIRST! … or maybe not since i am taking the time to watch before posting …we shall see……
Well for some reason it froze after part 2 which I am glad to see I am not the only one who thinks is good but overrated ( Lumus makes the movie)
let’s see if James is with me on thinking 3 is underrated
October 25, 2011 at 3:12 am
Great review. Making a sequel to the original Halloween is an awful idea; it just can’t be done, no matter how hard you try. It’s really annoying when there are sequels to a movie or book that ends on a perfect cliffhanger.
October 25, 2011 at 3:17 am
The series would have been better if they had used Carpenter’s original idea, which was to make each new movie be it’s own separate story, and the only bond between them would be that they all take place on Halloween night. They made a mistake in having Michael Myers be in Pt. 2, because then in Pt. 3, people expected him again, and thus didn’t like 3 being different. If 2 had been different right off the bat, people would have expected 3 to be different as well, and the series could have been fresh and new with each installment. Oh well…
October 25, 2011 at 3:19 am
I liked 2 a lot, but it was not creepy, like James says. Part 1 is scary without showing any blood, this sequel is an overdose of blood and its not that scary. The fact that we now why Michael hunts for Laurie, just took away all the mystery and fright of the first movie and the whole character. But for me it was still a satisfying movie. Seeing Myers walking behind here at the end of the hallway is just unforgettable to me. This is probably also the only Halloween movie with all the horrific and gory kills. Later sequels wouldn’t show much blood at all.
I laughed my ass of when I saw Halloween 3. I soo bad, it’s funny. People should watch it just because of that. Weird that James doesn’t say anything about the huge plotholes or situations in the movie..
I also wish Halloween would’ve went the anthology route, Halloween 3 is better than most other Halloween sequels. It could’ve been awesome to see what all they could’ve came up with, but no, cry babies just HAD to have shitty Michael Myers doing the same old shit. Yawn!
October 25, 2011 at 3:21 am
IN JOHN CARPENTERS HALLOWEEN, MICHAEL MYERS LURKED THROUGH THE STREETS OF THE EVERYDAY LAID BACK RESIDENTIAL HOMES AND BROUGHT FEAR IN OUR BACKARDS. IN HALLOEEN II, MICHAEL LURKED THROUGH THE HALLWAYS OF A HOSPITAL. WHERE HE BRINGS FEAR, AND CARRIES DEATH TO A PLACE THAT BRINGS HOPE, AND LIFE….
Halloween 2 was a pretty good sequel. Probably not as good as the first but up there. The movie reveals michael, and lauries connection and dr loomis discovers michaels link to samhain. Great film. And yes, I do love HALLOWEEN III
Follow up post … remember kiddies to stay tuned for THE BIG GIVE AWAY after the final monster madness video
October 25, 2011 at 3:22 am
Every feels like the ending to the original Halloween was a set up for a sequel, but I disagree. The end was perfect WITHOUT a sequel. The idea was that Michael Myers could be anywhere. In your house, in the backseat of your car… anywhere.
With that being said, I liked Halloween 2. I thought it was good in a different way than the original. It has this real dream like, surreal quality about it. The bright vivid colors and the melencholy mood makes you feel like it’s real late night/early, early morning when no one is awake and all of this terrible, macabre shit is going down. It has a very strange and weird feel to it and I think that’s a good thing looking back on it. But again… it’s so different from the original and worth checking out for different reasons.
Halloween 3 was actually very entertaining. I don’t really consider it part of the series, but I enjoy it. I see it as a completely different movie and when looked at like that it’s pretty damn good. So what? Loomis, Laurie, and Michael aren’t in it. That doesn’t make the movie bad, and I actually appreciate the vision that Carpenter had for the rest of the series.
I’m stoked to see your Halloween 4 review. IMO it is the second best of the series behind the original. Great , top notch atmosphere and some really great characters that you feel for. Definitely close to the first in terms of quality for me. Can’t wait to see the rest.
October 25, 2011 at 3:24 am
when he gets to it I just want to know why the hell the freakin terminator busts MM out of jail
October 25, 2011 at 3:28 am
somehow im dont entirely agree with u. i think helloween 2 its almost as good as 1. they just wanted to make a finale for the first part. if they show michael myers more than in the firt movie its becouse they wanted to, also there is more slashing becouse people was asking for it. i was a fan of these two movies since a kid, im older than u so i saw them when released. i loved helloween thanks to this movies. about the third part, well, sucks as hell so ill not comment about it.
ill wait for ur reviews on part 4,5, 6, h20, etc. and btw the second part was directed by Rick Rosenthal and not Carpénter.
October 25, 2011 at 3:33 am
Good review of Halloween 2. Halloween 3 no offense that was fuking sloppy. I actually watched that same top 10 today cos i knew u would include 3 tomorrow though wasn’t expecting it tonight. Sorry to say i am really disappointed that u didn’t go further into some of the scenes of halloween 3.
October 25, 2011 at 3:34 am
Once again, fantastic review!
October 25, 2011 at 3:41 am
I do also agree on the notion that HALLOWEEN should never had sequel. Even John Carpenter did not want to do it. But he was talked into it, and was also talked into producing HALLOWEEN.III whiched failed. Carpenter sold the rights of the series to the late Moustapha Akkad, and washed his hands clean of the series. I dont blame him. HALLOWEEN stands alone as a ground breaking feat in suspence, fear, and a superb film of the genre. I love the sequels that progressed. But the sequels feel more like a 2D story of the characters that we are just watching where we feel for them like the original.
October 25, 2011 at 5:02 am
I really should check out the third movie one of these Octobers. Not this one, though, I’m backed up on horror movies at it is.
I agree on all parts regarding the second one. Not as good as the first, but decent, and the one that does the best job of mixing the feel of the first movie with the base slasher franchise it went on to be.
October 25, 2011 at 5:26 am
Part of Halloween 3 takes place where I live, Dayton, Ohio!
October 25, 2011 at 5:39 am
rob zombie remake ok but he lost me in part 2 and part 3 hes only the writer
October 25, 2011 at 6:13 am
Halloween II has it’s good points and it’s bad. It is really the only solid Myers sequel, simply because it does introduce plot points that seem to have become accepted canon for the Michael and Laurie character across all of Halloween. I like that it picks up the very same night, and Donald Pleasance is always good! Felt like Jamie Lee barely did anything in this movie. She was doped and comatose until the very end.
Halloween 3 was one of those movies that I avoided like the plague until about 2 years ago… And to be quite honest i was stunned by how good a movie it was. I did not expect this, based on all the Halloween fans derision of it. Tom Atkins makes for a likeably silly protagonist, and the ungonk-ungonk commercial is the stuff of legend.
Throw in one of the greatest intensely ambiguous horror endings of all-time, and you have an underrated gem.
Don’t forget to tune in for the big giveaway at 9!
October 25, 2011 at 6:14 am
OH: I forgot to mention i always liked how the fake Myers in #2 turned out being Ben Tramer.
Poor Ben. Just never gonna get lucky with the ladies!
October 25, 2011 at 6:15 am
nice review james! cant wait for the rest and cant wait for next year 🙂
October 25, 2011 at 6:22 am
3:11 what a fucking idiot he says that so softly LOL
Nice to see the reviews of 2 and 3. I actually haven’t seen these myself. I’ve seen H20 and the remake, and the first one, and I’m not sure what else. Seems like I definitely need to check these two out, though!
October 25, 2011 at 7:24 am
After James says “ITS CINEMASSACRE’S MONSTER MADNESS!” does anyone else find themselves saying “GODZILLA-THON” every time… lol
October 25, 2011 at 7:44 am
It felt a little lazy that he just used footage from another one of his videos when discussing Halloween 3, but I suppose you could run out of things to say when discussing the same movie so many times.
October 25, 2011 at 7:54 am
Nice! Love your top tens.
October 25, 2011 at 8:05 am
A good one!
October 25, 2011 at 8:12 am
You should do more top 10 man they were awesome
October 25, 2011 at 8:15 am
There’s also a tv cut of the second movie which had many different scenes that were not in the theatrical version. It’s a nice cut.
Also what’s what’s that movie at 00:00?
October 25, 2011 at 8:20 am
@Ty Hope: Yes!
Ya know what, I like Halloween 3. I think its just as good as the first two, and the last great film of the franchise. There, I said it.
October 25, 2011 at 8:40 am
I really wish they had gone with Carpenter’s idea and have the series be an anthology revolving around Halloween. The first one ended so perfectly, a sequel, let alone 8 of them, really take away its power. It would have been cool to see all the new stories revolving around Halloween.
October 25, 2011 at 8:48 am
Excellent review James and I liked that you included the review of part 3 from the top 10 vid. It gives it another chance to gain some exposure because it’s a good horror film and I’d loved to have seen more Halloween movies in that direction, which was also the initial idea with the first one mind you.
October 25, 2011 at 8:55 am
I really enjoy both movies that were discussed today…I just watched Halloween 1 and 3 last night…and I gotta say that Halloween III is a really good movie on its own somethin’ about those dudes in the suits is just creepy as hell to me and the thought of a big company that secretly wants us all dead feels to me like a real life type of thing to me (I watch a lot of conspiracies lol) and Halloween II is one of the first horror movies I saw I remember when my sister was babysitting me and she forced me into watching Halloween II and Children of the Corn it fucked me up for a minute lol anyways thought I’d share with the class today thats all everyone take care and happy HALLOWEEN!!!!
October 25, 2011 at 9:21 am
I got Halloween about 3 months ago I still haven’t seen it because i was saving it for Halloween and when i herd you where doing a sequel-a-thon i was praying you’d do one of these slasher movie series and i got my wish twice. great reviews James you’re the reason i watch Horror movies
October 25, 2011 at 9:32 am
It would have been cooler is Michael changed costumes so you would never know which person on the street would be the killer. Every Halloween, he would keep changing costumes and killing people. And you could sell an awful lot of costumes each year.
October 25, 2011 at 9:44 am
I agree with Halloween 2 being a good sequel that comes close to the original. I now know you are doing Halloween remake and it’s sequel probably on the 30th with Halloween: Resurrection. I don’t care much for Halloween 3 I mean it was okay. I am looking toward to seeing Halloween 4 review tomorrow. Keep up the good work James.
October 25, 2011 at 9:49 am
Another great review, James! Yeah, I think the series should have ended after II.
a post-DOTM Transformers movieverse fanfic
October 25, 2011 at 9:53 am
I too am amused at the cop who drives like a madman, then has the audacity to blame the kid for getting infront of his car.
October 25, 2011 at 10:03 am
I think I’m going to have to give Halloween III a re-watching because I never made it past the first 10 to 20 minutes. I was never upset that Michael wasn’t in it. I was pissed off cause they kept flipping to TV’s showing trailers for the first two Halloween films and that Halloween III has nothing to do with the first two. It should have been simply called Season Of The Witch and had all trailers of the other Halloween films removed from it.
October 25, 2011 at 10:48 am
I will always hate part 3 because of that damn song……
October 25, 2011 at 10:56 am
I do remember watching halloween 3 and i hated it. It just seemed stupid with some of the scenes. SPOILER ALERT!
Such as the scene where the chick who TOm atkinson travels with goes insane I thought it was really annoying how many times she came bak to life. I was really hoping you would talk the good points and bad points of 3 since its the most hated u could of gave it more of a praise. Though I think by far its the worst and this was me watching it fully knowing that michael myers wasn’t in it other than trailers.
October 25, 2011 at 11:04 am
sorry James, but Halloween 3 was total shit all around. To this day I’m disappointed I spent a Halloween night watching that shit. I myself like the premise of having a different premise each movie, but this movie guaranteed that was never going to be taken seriously.
oh, and listen to nostalgia critic’s review of it to hear an argument not solely focusing on “no Michael Myers”
October 25, 2011 at 11:15 am
I remember taping Halloween 3 on the VCR and watching it later that night after trick or treating and just being so damned confused. Back then we had no internet and my Parents didnt know what the hell I was talking about. Looking back it was not that bad of a movie
October 25, 2011 at 11:23 am
I don’t think Michael swinging blindly was an awful scene. I also think the hospital chase scene was nearly as good as the first movie’s chase scene. Obviously the original is better, but I treat Halloween 1 & 2 as one movie. Every Halloween I watch them both.
October 25, 2011 at 11:30 am
Halloween III IS highly underrated, now I’m not saying it’s a fantastic movie, but given all of the shit it’s taken over the years, it still has it’s moments of entertainment.
Personally I think the title should have emphasized Season of the Witch more, but we’re talking about Halloween, they HAD to try and cash in on the name.
October 25, 2011 at 11:34 am
Halloween 3 was the first Halloween film that scared me so much that I could barely sleep by myself. I first saw it on TNT’s Monster Vision with host Joe Bob Briggs. Although it scared me back then, today it is one of my favorite horror movies. I even bought reproductions of all 3 Silver Shamrock Masks complete with the Silver Shamrock Novelties tag in the back. Although I have watched many horror films since then and thought I was invincible to horror movie fear, but in early 2009 I watched something online that scared me so much that I’ve been seemingly scarred for life. To this day I stil haven’t recovered from it.
October 25, 2011 at 11:37 am
Hey James, you should make a movie!
October 25, 2011 at 11:57 am
I still remember the first time I watched Halloween 3. I think it was on the TNT network, back before they “knew drama”. The ending freaked me out.
October 25, 2011 at 12:39 pm
I don’t think Halloween 3 is underrated. It has some good scenes (specially the gorier ones), and I agree it takes some balls to show children getting killed like this movie does, but overall is boring and a waste of film. I remember how disappointed I was when watched it for the first time and realize it has nothing to do with the first 2 films, but that was a long time ago. Watching now, judging by its own merits didn’t help. It was a piece of crap back then, it’s a pice of crap now.
October 25, 2011 at 1:34 pm
I don’t agree, I think Halloween 2 is a LOT better than the original.
It helps that it gets to the point right away and there’s no boring setup with bad dialog and unlikable characters.
The kills are much more interesting, and Michael seems more badass and scary in this (except when he’s blinded).
But hey, it’s just my opinion.
October 25, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Hi James!! I was wondering when you would get to The Halloween series. In sweden the halloween movie is called ” alla helgons blodiga natt” translated to english : all hallows eves bloody night. I laugh every time i think of it. 🙂
I hate how they managed to fuck up the series as(s) in all damn franshises.
It´s Cinemassacres Maunsteerr Maaaadneeeesssss
I´m so sorry, I don´t have anything better to do with my life.
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙁 🙂
October 25, 2011 at 2:23 pm
19Szabolcs91, the “boring setup” is probably the best part, it builds the awesome tension in it, it sets the mood.
October 25, 2011 at 2:40 pm
a couple more days and I will be able to donate some money for the AVGN movie!! yeeeeeea!!!
October 25, 2011 at 2:46 pm
To each his own mates. However James f you ever read this I think you missed a very important point with Halloween 1 and 2. In my mind they essentially are a 2 parter and as such should be viewed back to back. When you are absolutely fresh after the first one the second one doesn’t need its own build up since the first one serves as exactly that. I’d even go as far as saying they should make a dvd with parts 1 and 2 edited into a huge single movie for the quintessential Halloween night marathon, to allow the viewer to fully immerse in the entirety of the story.
October 25, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Don’t worry about shitty translations to other languages. I’m originally brazilian and I’ve seen a shitload of horrid movie title translations.
For instance, Bruce Lee’s Big Boss in Portuguese is called “flight of the white dragon”.
Want to do something good out of your life here? You could post some pics of your sweedish friends (girls, please). LOL
October 25, 2011 at 3:05 pm
I saw Halloween 3 as kid and was freaked out by the concept (killer insect masks) and the effects, but I watched it again a few years ago and it didn’t hold up. This has nothing to do with Michael Myers not being in it. Taken as it is, as a stand-alone movie, it’s not very good. It’s not utter crap, but it is bad in a lot of ways. The idea is still interesting, but it suffers from a lot of problems that plague many horror movies, like logical lapses, cheesy effects and lazy writing.
I appreciate what it tried to do, but it still failed, in my opinion.
I think its biggest downfall was that it tried to do too much, between the cult story, the town, the mystery, the masks. Horror works best, I think, when it’s smaller in scope, with a limited group in a small area. Or, if the scope is big, keep it locked on one horrific idea, not three or four. Spread the story too far and it’s easy to lose focus.
Just my opinion.
October 25, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Hey, James! Excellent Monster Madness this year! I laugh everytime I see E.T. in that monster line-up at the beginning. Imagine if somebody re-made E.T. 20 years from now, though not understanding it very well, it turns into a new series of horror movies with the likeness of The Extra Terrestrial! Actually, that would be a funny movie about re-makes/reboots…
October 25, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Great job, James. Keep up the good work. Your videos keep putting joy into my crappy life.
October 25, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Halloween 2 should have been the last. The rest are pretty much just sequel whoring. As far as Halloween 3, it should have been called something else like The Halloween Massacre or something else.
October 25, 2011 at 4:49 pm
i don’t know if u really read the comments but i have to say i actually have been watching your videos since day 1 of your YouTube stardom i most enjoy your videos, and i i have to say this has been the best, i love the Octobers reviews so anyway to get to what i like to say the review of hollween 3 is top notch lol
October 25, 2011 at 4:53 pm
I don’t like Halloween 2, I think it was pointless and destroyed the wonderful ending that the first one had. Carpenter’s films always have a really ambiguous endings which is kind of like a signature of his. Halloween 2 seems very unecessary and is really nothing more than a cash grab to bank on the success of the original.
I wish Halloween 2 would’ve been a fresh and original story, the anthology idea was brilliant!
Halloween III Season of the Witch I feel is just a bad film in its own right. I admire it for trying to ditch the Myers story, but yeah…. It’s got some cool ideas and such, but I really think it’s just a bad film by itself.
October 25, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Come on James. You can do better than t his. 2 to 3 minutes for each video is way too damn short. Oh yeah I’m sure you’re really busy with that remake of Planet 9 or whatever its called. Spend more time with the sequel a thons for your Monster Madness. AND QUIT IT WITH THE DAMN SWEARING.
October 25, 2011 at 5:32 pm
I totally dig on pretty much everything you do James, especially this but I just had to say. The stupid Assassins Creed commercial has totally soured me to ever playing that game lol. I know you don’t have control over it but hearing that stupid song now makes my ears bleed. Keep up the good work James.
October 25, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Additional: urrutiap, how did you ever come to like anything James does? He swears in like everything, its part of the humor so stop bitching already.
October 25, 2011 at 5:39 pm
I liked halloween 2 for showing more gore, but 3 was ingenius. people need to look past the fact that Micheal isn’t in it and appreciante it for what it is; a cfreepy, scary film with deaths and a good story. The running killer comes up in a spin off of halloween-prom night, which, in the classic 1980 version, is a great movie. The sewuel….no running killer. Also, one thing that changed between halloween 1 and 2 that piisses me off is how Micheal goes down stairs-slowly, almost lady like, where in the first movie he was fast and menacing!
October 25, 2011 at 5:46 pm
bring on more michael!
October 25, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Very interesting review. I liked the comparison of the fire scene with the scene from the Thing, and the little explanation about how the way Slasher villains move is inspired on the Mummy. That’s the kind of trivia I like from the Monster Madness reviews.
I think the idea of doing a different story every movie was an original idea, a shame it didn’t worked. I can’t say much thought, I haven’t watched the Halloween movies yet, but I plan watching them in Halloween night this year 🙂
@urrutiap: What do you mean 2 to 3 minutes? Today’s video was more than 5 minutes long, not including the second part of the video. You keep complaining about the swearing. We get it, you don’t like it. But remember there are plenty of people here who don’t mind the swearing, you aren’t the only one watching these videos. And even if James decides to take in consideration your complains, he probably has these videos ready ahead of time, so it’s not like he’s going to change them the day after you comment on them.
October 25, 2011 at 6:34 pm
I always found Halloween’s Michael bullshit, he can’t be killed, but they never tell WHY he can’t be killed, he is a human gone psychotic. Not a Freddy Kruger who is a demon.
October 25, 2011 at 6:35 pm
I think from now on, we should all just completely ignore the comments made by urrutiap. If we start to reply on the crap being said, it just feeds their ego and fuels them. If we all shutter it, it just becomes a single dumb post is a sea of legitimate comments, regardless if they like the review of hated it.
October 25, 2011 at 7:14 pm
Any connection that Halloween 2 was produced by Universal Studios, same as the original horror monsters?
October 25, 2011 at 7:30 pm
“I met this six year old child with this blank, pale, emotionless face, and the blackest eyes; the devil’s eyes. I spent eight years trying to reach him, and then another seven trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy’s eyes was purely and simply…evil.”
To put it on other words, He’s been beaten, shot, set of fire, Michael Myers is possessed by a darkness that cannot die.
October 25, 2011 at 7:59 pm
I love the end of Halloween 3. No bullshit happy ending, They go all the way. The first Halloween did that, then part 2 ruined it.
October 25, 2011 at 8:07 pm
John Carpenter didn’t leave the Halloween series outright after the second one; he still served as the producer for the third movie (which more than likely means it got his blessing) and the composer for III, 4, and 5.
October 25, 2011 at 10:09 pm
I agree that Halloween 2 should have been the last. The ones after 3 that contained Myers just milked it.
And yes 3 did get blown out of proportion and hated, but for all the right reasons. It shouldnt have been called Halloween 3, but a movie of its own with its own title. Thats enough right there to piss anyone off that was expecting a new Myers flick.
Overall, however, it was decent, nothing special. It had its moments, good idea, but wasnt executed properly, and a tad boring at times.
October 25, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Look quickly for Dana Carvey in his film debut. He plays the reporter’s assistant.
Also, in reference to Halloween III, I still think it’s a pretty terrible film. For the most part, I found it boring and not very scary. There were perhaps one or two chilling moments but that’s all. I think they should’ve just called it Halloween: The Season of the Witch instead of Halloween III. I believe that it was the roman numeral that really threw people off when seeing this film, thinking that it tied in with the first two films. Speaking of which, I remember reading that there was originally a sub-plot in Halloween III that involved a scientist sifting through the remains of Michael Myers. If that scene really existed at one point, I think they perhaps should’ve left it in.
October 25, 2011 at 11:20 pm
Great reviews as always. I love Monster Madness! I’m listening to a radio interview right now on YouTube with Tommy Lee Wallace, the writer and director of Halloween III on YouTube. Here’s the link if you (or anyone here) wants to listen to it.
October 25, 2011 at 11:28 pm
I like “Halloween II: Season of the Witch”; anyway, the Michael Myers “Halloween” sequel were mostly dreadful, with the exception of “H20”.
I notice James has taken more time to discuss this series so far, and he kind of rushed through the “Nightmare on Elm Street” series. I don’t have a problem with that, it’s just what I think.
October 25, 2011 at 11:33 pm
I liked Halloween III, its was actually pretty good if you didn’t jump all over it about how it didn’t have Michael in it. I always kinda thought It would have done better if they woulda just called it Season of the Witch, and dropped the halloween III just so it could have at least been its own movie. I don’t think I have ever heard anyone say anything other than they hate it just because it doesn’t have Michael in it either.
October 25, 2011 at 11:37 pm
In my opinion a sequel has to be really good since it has to at least carry as much story , depth, and originality as the first one. I don’t feel that any of the Halloween sequel’s have any of that and serve to make Michael Myers more of a characacher than something to fear. I feel like Halloween III should have featured Abbot & Costello it might have been better. This also applies to the Nightmare , and Friday The 13th series as well.
October 25, 2011 at 11:40 pm
Also is this where the corporation started that eventually made RoboCop. Now I know where they made their starting capital.
October 25, 2011 at 11:57 pm
Another great review James. This sequel along with H20 are the best in the series imo. I agree though that first is the best and few movies are as scary as the first. After all the horror movies I have seen, from new to old, and original to remake, the original Halloween still stands as a film that can scare me and it takes a lot to scare me. I love the trivia you give in these reviews and I appreciate all the time you give to us for these reviews.
Also I wouldn’t mind the other people complaining. The average Monster Madness video is 3-5 mins long so I don’t understand why all the nit picking. People are upset because you did not give the ANOES franchise more attention but hey you picked that one! For the Friday fans, he had a top “13” and reviewed the remake before ANOES and Halloween where chosen for this MM! I don’t see why people complain when your doing this for free! You are giving your time to us and that says a lot! Not to mention you still did an AVGN video this month and your busy with the AVGN movie and you still give us MM, and not only that but overall you have increased the timing of the videos. To me that is awesome!
On a last note Halloween is my favorite horror series, though I think there are some better stand alone ones. I think TCM is better than Halloween but I love the Halloween series more so I can’t wait to see your opinions on them!
October 26, 2011 at 12:50 am
October 26, 2011 at 2:24 am
Not for nothing, I like Nostalgia Critic too, but his review of Halloween 3 was BARELY more than “no Michael Myers”.
October 26, 2011 at 4:24 am
Halloween III is great! The best one. It’s typical Carpenter. I don’t care the boring Michael Myers shit.
October 26, 2011 at 7:33 am
I watched most of halloween 3 last night trying to give it a second shot. The first time i watched it i was not aware of the new direction they were going and was royally irked when there wasn’t michael myers. I kept waiting for him to pop out and start killing.
Watching it last night i seriously tried to give it a honest shot, but still i think it wasnt a good movie. The overall premise is spot on, but i think it is poorly executed. It doesnt have the suspense, or the scare that the myer’s films have. Also the music through out was simply annoying to me. So in my opinion i think it was an honest shot at something better than a slasher franchise, but it was poorly executed. had it been an outstanding movie in its own right then people could have shrugged off the lack of myers
October 26, 2011 at 11:02 am
Am i the only one here who’s genuinly confused about Ellie from the third one just being gone at the end of the film? We never get to see what happened to her and why in the fuck would Silver Shamrock make a robot copy of her? What am i missing here?
Halloween is an heretical pagan celebration that has no place in proper christian society.
October 26, 2011 at 12:35 pm
I like the 2nd. It finished the myers persona nicely. He and his opponent are dead. Classic showdown. Everything else after this with myers is just crap really. They make a good crazy psycho into a form of evil. It killed the whole, this could happen that made the first one great. Now myers is a freddy or jason, something that could never happen in real life. It destroyed the true horror.
I really like the 3rd one. Because I knew it was going to be a anthology of halloween themes. But since people didnt see myers in it, it was dumped on. But he wasnt suppose to be in it. It’s a new story. It’s a great stand alone movie, and would have liked to see more along the lines. But people bulked and this movie didnt do well in theaters. It goes along the lines of trick r treat.
I liked that the town of santa mira is the same town in invasion of the body snatchers. and the gas station is the one in the fog for you film buffs.
October 26, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Part II and H2O are my favorites, Hospitals are just naturally creepy, so a slasher stalking the halls just makes it moreso for me. While I get why people love the original, I liked this one much more. And I am one that hates teh open ending and am fully satified with II’s finale.
Halloween III isn;t that bad at all, once you get past it isn’t a true sequel. Tom Atkins is always a joy to see, and Dan O’Herlihy is both eerie and hysterical as the villain. I love when O’Herlihy is explaining his process to Atkins and talks about how he got the big magical Stonehendge rock.
October 26, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Great review, James!
October 26, 2011 at 2:53 pm
i actually found Halloween 2 MORE frightening and suspenseful than the original. maybe it’s because i watched them back-to-back and had the tension from part one still fresh on my mind. i also think the hospital setting helped the creep factor. think about it: anyone who’s been in a hospital, as a patient, a visitor, whatever, knows they’re brightly lit and constantly active, so seeing it dark and silent just feels off and makes you feel uneasy, even without the unstoppable killer stalking the halls.
October 26, 2011 at 7:42 pm
I loved Halloween 2 the fact it actually picked up where the first ended was brilliant. I never knew part 3 was meant to be in a new direction that explains a lot, I must give it another view.
October 26, 2011 at 9:00 pm
I’m sure it’s already been mentioned but the kid who got totaled by the cop car is not wearing a boiler suit. Look closely and you’ll notice it’s actually 2 pieces so definitely not the same thing Michael wears.. Personally to me it looks like the kid is wearing a jean jacket and jeans, both dark blue, as opposed to Michael’s dark grey jumpsuit. On a side note the kid is the same guy that Laurie’s friend in the first movie tried to set her up with or at least has the same name.
Anyway I also wanna point out the reason for the change in setting in part 2. Rick Rosenthal the director, who had basically no experience at the time as a director, wanted to shoot the movie in pre von sternberg german expressionism. So lots of long hallways and alternative view points.
As for Part 3 well it’s just a worthless movie. Granted it’s been a long time since I’ve seen it but based on what I remember the acting was bad, the plot was sketchy at best and even at it’s creepiest moments it wasn’t. The high point of the film is the deaths which frankly they would have been better off releasing as a set of short horror snuff films.
October 27, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Brad Jones just put up a lengthy tribute to “Halloween III” that was pretty great. I love that movie. One of the most underrated horror films of the 80’s/
October 29, 2011 at 3:40 pm
My problem with Halloween III wasn’t that Michael Meyers wasn’t in it. It was because it was bad.
First of all, the plot is so inconceivably retarded, it takes a special kind of person to actually believe in it. I mean, I know it’s fiction and all, but seriously— are you kidding me? Some stereotypical Bond villain tries to kill a bunch of kids by simply telling them “wear these masks and watch TV.” In reality, that plan would never, ever work, but for some reason, it does in the movie. At the time he tells them to watch the television, it’s at a time of day when most kids are out trick or treating, that, and what kind of kid would actually wear a mask while watching TV? Those masks looked stuffy as hell. He would probably succeed in only killing less than a quarter of the amount he intended. It’s so utterly ridiculous.
The acting is abysmal, and you can say that most acting in the eighties was bad, but that’s a piss poor excuse. The main character, the doctor, is a total buffoon who flirts with every single woman that comes on screen, and most of the time he just manages to bumble his way into success. His “cute” female sidekick jumps into bed with him the night she meets him, apparently in the mood for lots of hot sex despite the death of her father earlier that day. They also exchange corny pillow talk before engaging in premarital sex, such as “Where would you LIKE to sleep?” “That’s a dumb question.” GOD, I wish I hadn’t heard something so atrocious.
The main villain is apparently one of the most richest people in the world because he sells Halloween masks, rich enough to run his own town and make his own army of suave, studly male robots to do his bidding. Really… robots? Yes, the protagonist and his sexed up housewife sidekick get pursued by lumbering, slow-moving robots, which you can apparently kill in one shot just by shoving your fist into their stomachs, yet everyone manages to get murdered by them.
To add more to the convoluted, stupid, twisted story, Bond villain gets the power for the tags on his masks from a huge rock that he stole from the Stone Hedge, which he tries to convince us is imbued with “magic powers,” which he is using to put into his killer masks. Good lord, can anything else be more stupid than that? “IT’S MAGIC!!” Isn’t that called a Deus Ex Machina? Not only did he manage to steal a huge rock, but it for some reason is three times the size of a normal stone from the Stone Hedge, and he implies it took a lot of work to steal it. I’m sorry, but how do you make stealing one of those rocks inconspicuous?!
The ending is horrible. The Bond villain’s plans are foiled by the doctor and his sex kitten when he dumps the magic killer chips all over the robots after playing the killer pumpkin show which is… supposed to… I guess… activate the magic in the chips? I can only assume that’s what it does, that and it can produce rattlesnakes and crickets to come out of your face. I still don’t understand a single bit how that works. You play some pumpkin video and a magic chip makes snakes come out of your mouth? Yeah we see this all happen to some ginger kid towards the end of the film, which makes for great , gripping cinema, because I’m sure if it made any sense whatsoever, it might be scary.
The Bond villain dies at the end, when… something… happens… like, the computers chips are dumped all over the robot slaves and then while a bunch of pumpkin videos are playing… the stone from the Hedge… erupts into… blue flames? Anyways, it turns the Bond villain into what looks like a human-shaped wedge of bleu cheese.
After breaking out his sex kitten partner, the doctor drives off with her in the seat beside him, and then it’s revealed that… she’s a robot too. And she tries to strangle him. So he crashes into a tree and her arm gets ripped off so she tries to strangle him with one arm… and then… I… just can’t explain it any further, it’s just SO GODDAMN STUPID, MY WORDS CANNOT DO IT JUSTICE.
So then it’s revealed that stopping the British-accented Bond villain didn’t halt the killer pumpkin videos, so the doctor guy decides to call the studio to get it taken off the air. For some reason, some random kids drive up in a car at the gas station he’s at… I don’t know who they are or where they came from. As they’re watching the pumpkin video with their masks on, the protagonist is telling them to take the videos off the air, on all of the multiple channels it’s apparently running on. The kid watching the TV just keeps changing the channels like a lifeless, emotionless zombie. Really, if all kids were that stupid, I think he should have just left it on the air. He screams for them to take it off of the final channel, but they just leave it on. And it ends there.
Why did they take it off of two channels, but not the last one? That makes a lot of fucking sense. I guess they realized how crazy the guy sounded at the last minute. Oh well. More candy for the adults now that less than 1% of all kids wearing masks and watching the show are dead.
So yeah, James. THAT’S why Halloween III is bad, not because it doesn’t have Michael Meyers. You might say “that’s your opinion.” It’s my opinion that it’s a motherfucking fact.
Also, the only good Halloween was the first film. Second one was okay. The rest, complete garbage. I hated Michael Meyers as a villain, but he wasn’t much worse than this British suit-wearing Bond guy.
October 29, 2011 at 7:07 pm
People think that H3’s failure to launch an anthology series was only because of arogance, but it simply just doesn’t fit with being the third in the series.
It should be its own Halloween series and entitled “Halloween: Season of the Witch”, and that’s all. After that, they’d launch a new sub title.
Halloween 1 and 2 are like the Back to the Future series. Its meant to be predestine as a story split into two films and end there. It was the 3’s fault all along that we have 4 and on, in the end that is.
It just doesn’t fit, as Halloween 1 and 2 barely have anything to do with the holiday. Aside for a few aspects, its mostly about a psychopath who escaped the mental institution and returned home to where he killed his sister due to verious psychological issues.
October 30, 2011 at 2:34 am
it is a shame halloween 3 was shunned for being so different and on some parts didnt make that much sense but i wasnt bothered by it, i saw halloween 3 as a kid and i liked it. though i scratched my head on why it didnt have michael myers but i ignored it. as time went by i discovered that people hated it, i didnt know why and everytime i ask them they go ape shit and say it didnt have michael myers and why didnt the film makers change the title, and that was about it, even the nostalgia critic says it. it sucked growing up defending the movie and trying to convince them to just accept it for what it is, a pretty gory and well holiday themed with great music movie. but they wouldnt i myself get shunned for even mentioning it along with the other halloween movies. but i wont give up my opinoin, i will shout it out right now I LIKE HALLOWEEN 3 AND YOU HATERS SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELFS TO ALLOW THE SERIES TO GO TO RESURRECTION!!!
October 30, 2011 at 7:25 am
I saw Halloween 3 before the others, as a kid. Loved it,still think it’s great, pretty ballsy and original. Deserved a longer review.
October 30, 2011 at 7:48 am
watched halloween this morning it was epic also found out dr loomis is from my town worksop also great reviews
October 30, 2011 at 3:54 pm
I recently saw 3 and I absolutely loved it.
It is a shame they diddn’t keep the trend of making it an anthology series instead of endlessly resurrecting Myers. I wonder where it would’ve gone from there if they did.
I think Zombie should bring this trend back. Mabye not remaking or rebooting 3, but atleast reimagining it.
November 1, 2011 at 8:05 pm
I’m surprised that James neglected to mention the fact that Halloween II starts off with a rehash of the end of the first film, but if you count the gunshots, Loomis shoots Michael *seven* times.
November 2, 2011 at 5:32 am
Pointless sequel…yet it had balls. It killed off the killer and for me this is where the Halloween series ends as the sequels were terrible…yes even H20.
However I loved III as it’s something new. Myers is dead anyway.
I always see it as a seperate franchise and it’s a shame they didn’t continue the idea of a new Halloween story each year.
It’s a great flick, it’s scary with some great ideas.
Next year James should do a Antholgoy-a-thon for the next Monster Madness. There are some great horror anthology flicks out there for the obvious Creepshow and Twilight Zone to the overlooked Tales From The Crypt (original English version) and even Carpenter’s own Body Bags. Stephen King’s Cat’s Eye, The House That Dripped Blood from writer of Psycho Robert Bloch. Monster Club.
I could go on and on. More than enough films to do a Monster Madness on.
November 5, 2011 at 7:51 pm
I first saw Halloween III in 1993, it was also the first ever Halloween flick for me.
Even though it did not have Michael Myers at all, I found the film’s concept to be very interesting and at times it does a good job delivering scary moments.
I noticed the film proved to be daring in the following concepts:
1. Emphasizing the commercialization of Halloween.
2. Showing how capitalism made impact on society’s perception of Halloween
3. The film dared to show the killing of a child in a key scene. Even until now, showing children getting killed on cinema is taboo.
4. It cleverly mixes elements of science fiction with culture and horror.
November 9, 2011 at 8:12 pm
I was hoping that you touch upon the fact that we never know why the girl is a robot at the end or why she didn’t get fried along with all of the other robots, but i did like how you explain how it was planning to be an anthology series because it really had me confused why Micheal was not in it.
November 9, 2011 at 8:13 pm
by it i meant Halloween 3
July 4, 2012 at 4:24 am
I’ve watched Halloween III a couple times I think for a thriller its not bad but i think it should take out the Halloween III title and just call Season of the Witch: Sam Hien of something like that.
July 31, 2012 at 4:23 pm
Every car was packed with explosives back then and exploded with the slightest impact, heh.
I think Halloween III may have been one of the reasons it became less common to number movie sequels.
October 16, 2012 at 3:26 am
Yea i agree wit u james 100 percent. Halloween 1 and 2 were just great. It was a good story about a evil killer who wanted to wipe out his family. But it ends wit him dying and thats that. But of course some moron wanted to make money and just ruined the whole series from 4 on. Halloween 3 was good. And yea they should of just continued in that direction like u said. A different halloween horror story each movie.
June 6, 2013 at 10:55 pm
awesome review james
July 8, 2013 at 9:40 am
Donald Pleasence also plays a character called Loomis in the non-Halloween movie Innocent Bystanders, playing Annie Brackett, one of the cast members in Halloween II, Nancy Kyes, was also called Loomis, her billing name in the credits being Nancy Loomis.
August 16, 2013 at 10:54 am
There’s actually one major point to H2 that was actually improved over the first movie; the lighting. It’s something that really stood out to me. There’s this scene where Michael is walking and light is shining through a chain link fence onto his mask. The texture of the lighting gives him an even more eerie, unearthly and chill inducing presence. There are more scenes like this spread throughout the movie, but this one in particular really stood out to me.
August 30, 2013 at 10:41 pm
I love Halloween III, along with the original Halloween & Halloween 4 it’s one of my favorite movies to watch on Halloween. When I was younger it bothered me that Michael Myers wasn’t in it, but now I just like the film for what it its.
October 12, 2013 at 5:16 pm
trivia: the main villain in Halloween III Season Of The Witch also plays yet another memorable villain in the 80’s: The Old Man aka The OCP President from Robocop & Robocop 2. damn, now that’s what I call great casting.
October 21, 2013 at 5:05 pm
I just saw Halloween 3 and I have to say in my opinion it’s pretty bad. Quite some things in there that make no sense and it has one of the worst endings in movie history. Now I can understand that people were glad to have Michael Myers back in part four.
October 24, 2013 at 2:03 pm
I didn’t even realize Halloween 3 was an official sequel for the longest time. It’s just not a good movie regardless of the title. Halloween 2 is the only worthwhile sequel in the entire franchise. It really should have ended there…
October 24, 2013 at 2:18 pm
P.S. The hospital setting is extremely creepy and the only aspect that outdoes the original. The biggest downside of the movie is the revelation that Laurie is Michael’s sister. It was better when Mike was such a nut job that he’s simply compelled to go after the first girl that reminds of his first kill, his sister.
June 26, 2014 at 5:29 pm
I thought I was the only one who didn’t like Halloween 3
November 7, 2013 at 6:00 pm
I have a guess as to who plays the villain in Halloween III but I’m not sure if it’s him or not. Please tell me. Is the villain in Halloween III Dennis Over-the-top-mother-fucking Hopper
March 21, 2014 at 6:38 pm
Lol, Halloween 3 was like Terminator 3 after both franchises tried to seal the deal that their endings for their sequels were done and ”un-sequel-able”. They were so wrong…
June 26, 2014 at 5:28 pm
Love part 2, but didn’t like part 3.
June 26, 2014 at 5:30 pm
I didn’t find it scary, but I do agree that Myers should have stayed dead.
July 31, 2014 at 8:55 pm
what movie is that in the beginning that starts at 00:00 and ends at 00:02?