Doom 64 (N64) James & Mike Mondays

Mike Matei / May 16th, 2016

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  • kingjoseus

    May 16, 2016 at 2:08 am

    Definitely seems like a game where the frustration could outweigh the fun overall. Not a complete lost cause, though. Good stuff, guys.

    • Schizima

      May 16, 2016 at 3:25 am

      Yep. I managed to bit this and I nearly had a heart arthythmia in the process. It’s much harder than the original PC Doom games because you must complete each level without dying and IIRC the ammo carries over, so you have to conserve. Not to mention literally dozens of one hit-fall deaths.

      The game also pulls a cheap trick where you need to grab three artifacts to make the final boss manageable. Impossible to find without a guide out.

      I did manage to beat this boss without the items and it was one of the hardest FPS experiences in my life. Not only do you face about 150 enemies, the final boss can only be killed if you use the BFG in its face and not miss once. It requires a level of precision unheard of in modern FPS games.

      • Xen11

        May 16, 2016 at 8:07 am

        So its three artifacts, huh? I never stood a chance.

        I remember playing that last boss literally over a hundred times. It was impossible. I just remember getting in that room, and these pillars rising (I think) and demons transporting out of them surrounding the mother demon and I’m just strafing in a circle the entire time killing all the demons and the mother demon always killed me no matter how many hits I would get on her. It was very frustrating just because I had no idea what I could possibly do to make it possible.

        Back then at the time I didn’t have internet and had to wait to go to my aunt’s house and look it up on her internet. I found out you needed to do some shit earlier in the game to make it possible to beat the final boss. So I gave up and used the god mode cheat just so I could beat her and see the ending. Even with the god mode, it still took forever to kill her. I shot her with all my BFG ammo and then I’m just standing there shooting her with the red laser alien gun (I believe it was the final gun you found). It still took forever. I think I counted the shots and it was over a hundred. It was crazy and unforgettable.

        Besides that end boss I had absolutely no trouble or gripes with this masterpiece of a game. I actually like that end boss because I’ll never forget it and it was still fun trying to beat it over a hundred times.

        The atmosphere is the greatest of any game I’ve ever played. It’s perfect.

  • Schizima

    May 16, 2016 at 3:28 am

    Beat Doom 64 is a serious accomplishment. I have beaten just about every FPS game and I consider this among the hardest of all time.

    • Xen11

      May 16, 2016 at 7:59 am

      I’ve gotten to the end with the final boss, the Mother Demon. It was impossible to beat (I found out that you have to hit a switch earlier in the game just to make it possible to kill her). I had to use god mode to beat her. I hate cheating but it was the only way at that point.

      This game is so much fucking fun. You don’t even know if you haven’t played this game. One of the absolute best games ever.

      • Schizima

        May 16, 2016 at 6:10 pm

        It’s NOT impossible because I did it.

        I have a video of it here:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilOt4ZvgNis

        And yes, it was nearly impossible and you have to count every single shot and kill multiple enemies with a single rocket to even get to that point.

  • May 16, 2016 at 4:27 am

    I’ve actually never played any Dooms. Back then, just Wolfenstein, Quake, Shadow Of the Empire, Unreal and Half Life.

    • May 16, 2016 at 4:30 am

      But I forgot anything else existed when Half Life came out.

      • fallout1312

        May 16, 2016 at 6:33 pm

        Me too man. Half life changed my life….and once counterstrike emerged I was dead to the rest of the world of games for quite some time. It’s all I cared about for a good solid year I’d say. I still play counter strike to this day off and on. No othe game has impacted my life as much as half life. Truly one of my favorite game of all time.

      • deniii

        May 26, 2016 at 3:49 pm

        Half life was original when it came out but now that the novelty wore off, you can easily tell it’s a horrible game.
        Well, you can tell if you’re willing to look objectivly at the game. For newell and valve fanatics that will praise everything that newell says and valve does (like the user Fallout1312 here) half life is the best game ever.

  • Forsythia

    May 16, 2016 at 5:56 am

    Now you guys HAVE to do DOOM 2016! That game is freaking amazing!

    • May 16, 2016 at 7:02 am

      I absolutely love Doom 64. It’s way, way more atmospheric than the original Doom games (and the newer ones too, I think). Really spooky, demonic ambience. The level design was awesome and the controls were a lot nicer than playing with a keyboard, considering you couldn’t look up and down anyway.

      • May 16, 2016 at 7:03 am

        Derp, meant to leave that as a comment on the video, sorry.

      • Xen11

        May 16, 2016 at 7:56 am

        I totally agree. Doom 64 is total bliss. I look forward to playing it again some day.

      • May 16, 2016 at 3:07 pm

        The comment section on cinemassacre is so glitchy anyway.

  • Xen11

    May 16, 2016 at 7:54 am

    Doom 64 is one of the absolute greatest gaming experiences of my life. Phenomenal. So much fucking fun. The atmosphere is stellar. It’s unbeatable.

    So you two played it for two levels in horrible conditions and deem it less than awesome? It wasn’t super easy for you, so you bash it? What the fuck? Play it the right way with the lights off, in complete darkness, and brightness down (in the middle) on a CRT television with the sound up. You have missed out on one of the best games ever made. And I’m not talking ‘Doom’ in general, but specifically Doom 64.

    Some key moments I remember from playing it 18 years ago:

    Starting a level on an elevator going up and without warning it stops in the middle of an arena filled with demons of all varieties and I’m totally surrounded. Just scream, run, strafe, and shoot like John McClane when terrorists arrive from an elevator.

    Hearing the rumble of the RoboDemon through the walls and just the dread and horror of it, knowing you will have to face it. You hear every time it takes a step. Then you spend that level just running around this compound that has an arena at the center where the RoboDemon is waiting. As soon as it sees you it shoots missiles your way. It’s fucking awesome.

    The end boss is one of the hardest things I’ve faced in a videogame. So hard (actually probably impossible) that I had to use a cheat code (god mode) just to beat it. I found out that you might have to access a switch in an earlier level in order to make it possible to beat this Mother-Demon. Even on god mode it took forever to die. I must have tried to legit beat it over a hundred times before deciding to use the cheat code (I almost never cheat because what’s the point except to get over something you are baffled from after literally a hundred tries).

  • Weldin Dunn

    May 16, 2016 at 9:52 am

    “DOOOOOOOOOOOM” – Morbo

  • Zero_HU

    May 16, 2016 at 9:58 am

    There was no split screen in Doom on PC. I had to pack up my PC with the CRT monitor and haul it to my friend to be able to play it in multiplayer, through serial cable connected to the mouse port.
    That was the most basic method.

    • akronymn

      May 19, 2016 at 11:16 pm

      I had the doom shareware 3.5 floppy. It was only the knee deep in dead campaign. I installed it onto a bunch of computers in my high school and figured out that we could play multi player through the schools network.

  • May 16, 2016 at 10:53 am

    That Doom64 port (Brutal Doom 64) will be awesome!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfp00OZuXCc

  • May 16, 2016 at 12:01 pm

    I personally never experienced Doom 64 as a hard game.
    I remember the last boss rooms the most of all stages, because all you had to do was just run backward and shoot at the enemies along the walls in a huge circle until the last one was dead.When the final boss appears, you just pick up BFG9000 run into melee range and keep hitting the shoot button until it dies. The last boss only advantage is when you keep distance from him.

    Also there is a supercode where you get some extra stages that are even way more super hard then the ordinary stages. =)

    /SpaceOink

  • calmLIKEaBOB-OMB

    May 16, 2016 at 3:00 pm

    The game is supposed to be dark. Made to so creepy. Adjusting the brightness is blasphemy.

  • handsome pete

    May 16, 2016 at 4:22 pm

    I can’t take my eyes off the VIC20 game Clowns on that shelf in the background.

  • fallout1312

    May 16, 2016 at 5:05 pm

    Can’t believe you guys picked doom 64. That’s so cool. We were just talking about this game last week in the comments. So cool to go back and see this game. Thanks James and mike. I never knew you could play doom multiplayer either James. Makes me want to go over to my friends house and try out.i but back to doom 64 I think you guys made it farther then I did as a kid. Lol….the game looks cryptic enough as an adult I don’t think I had a prayer of shoving it as a kid. This game doesn’t cut you any slack. I liked it when you got the chainsaw and chain gun. I was like oh yeah we’re going to kick some ass now haha. I agree with you James it’s a little flawed. But it sure did bring back some memories when y’all fired this game up. Thanks James and mike. I love you guys. Haha Don’t worry, I learned in Wayne’s world that plutonic love can exist between two grown men hahahahahaha….I’m just kidding guys. I just love your videos and just hanging out with you guys. That’s what I love. My 2 best friends that I’ve never actually met….lol…how sad is my life hahaa….well honestly, life is pretty sweet….THANKS TO CINEMASSACRE BABY!!!! Lol….thanks James and mike…seriously don’t realize how much I enjoy hanging out with you guys. It’s funny, your called nerds but your the 2 funnest and coolest guys I know. Thanks for picking doom 64 . Game has some personal nostalgia for me and is was cool to see you 2 play something that meant something to me as a kid. I just remember playing doom 64 as a kid and just being like…this game is awesome, I never played the original doom so to me I didn’t know what I was missing so it just seemed like it was great. Game does look like it might not have aged well like you guys pointed out. I bet if I went back and played it today I might not even like it….but as a kid…I loved me some doom 64. Thanks James and mike. Can’t wait till next monday. Later guys. Thanks.

  • May 16, 2016 at 5:17 pm

    Love this game, whole reason I originally bought an N64.

  • JayRam

    May 16, 2016 at 5:43 pm

    Although I used to play Doom as a teenager in the late ’90s, after watching you guys play it last week, and with the release of Doom (2016), I went ahead and bought the BFG edition. Well worth the $8 I spent.

    Hope to see you guys finish up Doom 1, and start II.

    • fallout1312

      May 16, 2016 at 5:57 pm

      Wow 8 bucks. IM GOING TO GAMESTOP RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!! Lol MOVE BITCH!!!!! Hahah I’m just kidding guys….that sounds like a good deal though…..no seriously I’m going to GameStop. I’ll update in route. Focker Out!

  • fallout1312

    May 16, 2016 at 6:38 pm

    Dude GameStop wants 20 bucks for bfg on 360 that’s bullshit…how’d you get it for 8 bucks eBay or something?

  • Satnav

    May 16, 2016 at 9:02 pm

    Having just been playing the most recent Doom, you guys should definitely check that out, it stays true to the classic style of gameplay with a sexy modern coat of paint. Like the old ones, it also rewards exploring the hell out of everything, which I always like.

    • fallout1312

      May 16, 2016 at 9:58 pm

      I definitely want to check it out.

  • Adam Locascio

    May 17, 2016 at 8:39 am

    I’ll tell you what annoys me about this game: you’re told you “Picked Up A Clip.” No you didn’t. You picked up a “magazine.” Small detail, but darn if that’s not a huge pet peeve of mine.

  • Jeff Parson

    May 17, 2016 at 7:33 pm

    Ok Doom 1993 I played on apple computer back in the day, Was the scariest game I’ve ever played. The 2016 doom has great graphics and plays well. Still is the scariest game on the planet.

  • Adam

    May 18, 2016 at 10:18 pm

    Are you guys going to do a vid with the new Doom? It’s pretty good. Better than the n64 one.

  • jerry lowe

    May 19, 2016 at 8:23 pm

    Have James and Mike did a movie review of Doom the movie with the Rock?

  • May 19, 2016 at 9:03 pm

    This reminds me of the SNES days, when publishers were required, or at least encouraged, to make special versions of their games just for the SNES rather than the same port as other consoles got. Hence, games like Super Ghouls & Ghosts and Super R-Type which were not the standard arcade ports like on Genesis and TG-16.

  • akronymn

    May 19, 2016 at 11:03 pm

    I wish they played this further. I had some good memories working through the massive game. I loved the visuals, the sounds, and how you feel that you are going deeper into hell the further you get into the game. By the end of the game you are surrounded by the fires of hell. The puzzles you have to figure out and having to find all three keys seems to take too long. I recommend this game, but turn up the brightness in the game settings and on your TV. Also, track down a third party n64 controller that looks like a real controller so that you can reach all the buttons and change the buttons in the game settings so that you can strafe with L and R and shoot with Z.

    • akronymn

      May 19, 2016 at 11:28 pm

      It would have been nice to have been able to save at anytime like the PC versions. You could save your game to a memory card, but only at the beginning of a level. It was common that you would die an hour into a huge level and have to start the level over. This does make it more challenging since you cannot save every room that you enter.

  • lghyourinmaru

    May 20, 2016 at 4:24 am

    James and Mike you should do Broforce for a James & Mike Monday’s 😉

  • WimpyWampa

    May 20, 2016 at 10:53 pm

    Really? Windows 92? How does someone born in 1980, a video game aficionado, not know Windows 3.1? And Doom for PC (DOS) was not played split screen. This episode made me feel old.

  • nerd86

    May 21, 2016 at 2:40 am

    Wait, this is a bad Doom game?

    This is actually my favorite Doom game of all time because it has a beautiful balance between “edge of your seat” creepy and “edge of your seat” blowing shit up.

    Doom 3 was a mess of narrative and passive moments that completely has nothing to do with why I’d sit down and play a Doom game. Doom 64, on the other hand, is absolutely full of interest-generating atmosphere and challenges. It takes everything adrenaline-charged about the classic Doom games and adds in great atmosphere and genuine CREEPINESS into a solid FPS experience.

    I still stand by this as the best Doom game ever made, though I have yet to try Doom 2016. I’m hoping it’ll take that throne for me!

  • poopoodoodoo

    May 21, 2016 at 8:19 pm

    I love you guys. I have been watching your videos ever since the beginning. I wish I could see more of avgn. This, James & Mike Mondays are fine, there are nothing to complain about that. I just wish for more avgn.

    Peaace.

  • July 21, 2016 at 8:20 pm

    I have to agree some there, it’s far better than I remember… But, I mainly played the Sega port, and even that’s not the same as the original.

  • Dan85

    September 12, 2016 at 3:28 am

    Doom 64 is a standalone entry in the series and must be played, either loading the wad on PC (optimal) or on an actual N64.

  • September 15, 2016 at 11:37 pm

    I’m really surprised this is how you commented on Doom 64 of all titles. Half the time you’re too busy talking to even know what the hell you’re doing in these videos about unrelated crap. What’s the point in playing these games if you’re just going to talk about random shit the whole time?

    As others have said the atmosphere and basically everything you complained about is how the game was made on purpose. But as I mentioned you didn’t take any time to immerse yourselves so of course you’re going to complain about it…sad

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