Mike’s Arcade Stick Trouble

Mike Matei / February 28th, 2016

UPDATE: I GOT IT WORKING! Here’s my first live stream with the arcade stick in working order!

Watch here

Comments

  • Chris

    February 28, 2016 at 7:07 am

    Awww man, white people “problems”. Feel for you brah.

  • jun

    February 28, 2016 at 7:13 am

    Hi Mike, I’m Japanese and can understand your irritation.
    Perhaps you already know but your arcade stick (Real Arcade Pro V Kai for PS4 and Xbox one) only work on Windows 8.1,8,7 and Vista PC.
    I can’t find that explanation on Hori USA web site, but it mentions on Japanese Hori web site’s bottom of the page(http://www.hori.jp/products/xboxone/xboxone_rap_v_kai/).

    So I guess that’s why your girlfirend’s Pc Work and Your Macintosh Doesn’t work.
    I Propose Why don’t you use your mac’s boot camp Function?
    It requires Windows install disk but can use your Macintosh’s HDMI.

    Sorry for long comment and terrible english.

    • February 28, 2016 at 10:30 am

      ^^^^
      This person is correct.

      You don’t need to use a seperate computer to play on though. Why not plug the controller into the PC you’re playing on? and stream and play on the same computer? Unless it’s a really old PC, you can play on the same thing you’re streaming no problem.

      • DerManiac

        February 29, 2016 at 2:35 am

        The way I understood it his PC is probably in another room and he wants to play on his Sofa with his TV.

        Mike could just get a long ass USB cable, a long ass HDMI cable (or a wireless HDMI stick), and play using his PC from the sofa. It’d would still be inconvenient if he’d have to do something with Keyboard/mouse in casd something goes wrong, though…

    • Phoenix7786

      February 29, 2016 at 2:33 am

      Jun your English is *far* from terrible, my friend 🙂

  • 0skulock

    February 28, 2016 at 7:24 am

    Sorry to see you’re having these problems dude, tweeted you earlier about it but it seems you indeed have a ton more issues than just the simple fact of having to rebind the buttons.

    And, to be entirely frank. This is exactly why people say “Don’t get a mac for gaming.”. It doesn’t just affect the new games that are PC only but all software, drivers, and controllers as well. As Jun said earlier neither of those controllers are officially support the Mac OS. And what makes it even more difficult is the fact that most of the software that you maybe could use to get it working also don’t support a mac.

    So yeah, i don’t really have any ideas for you except to throw in the classic “Get a PC” comment. Because that’s exactly what those things were made to be played with. Think of it as trying to jam a N64 controller into a PS1, it just doesn’t work that way unless you start tinkering with the hardware itself.

  • February 28, 2016 at 7:43 am

    Mac is not designed for playing games, I would say get a real “PC” lol JK i know you can’t. But you could use Bootcamp (Already Pre-Installed on your Mac) or Parallels (would need to buy) and install Windows to play your arcade games.

  • February 28, 2016 at 7:59 am

    Omg XD:::

    Mike, you and James have GOT TO make an episode in which YOU are ‘The Nerd’.

  • Sanny

    February 28, 2016 at 8:10 am

    Hey Mike, I noticed your girlfriend’s PC laptop was a Thinkpad. I couldn’t see the exact model but if it doesn’t have HDMI it might have DisplayPort (my old Thinkpad does). You can buy a DisplayPort to HDMI adaptor for a few bucks on eBay. Anyway, Good Luck!

  • thethotbot

    February 28, 2016 at 8:33 am

    All Xbox peripherals work natively with Windows, as both systems are owned by Microsoft. These arcade games you are looking to play should require very minimal hardware, so why not just use a low-end Windows machine? if you are already streaming through a PC, couldn’t you play directly on that device? The joystick should work straight out of the box if plugged into a Windows machine.

  • February 28, 2016 at 8:50 am

    Mike, not trying to be an ass or sound rude bro, if you spent that much on 2 controllers then you could have bought a PC Laptop (Windows) nothing fancy but you go to Walmart and pick up a lower end PC just for playing the emulators etc on it. Besides it’s not called PC just for shits and giggles, it’s actually a “personal computer” and no they don’t hold you by the nutz like Apple/Mac does. I would never sign a binding contract with companies like Apple. Enjoy the freedom and customization of the PC.

  • February 28, 2016 at 9:18 am

    I see several people have said it already, but I think you should give dual booting with a windows installation a try. Of course it’s a hassle juggling two OS’es, but then I don’t want to be the one to tell you to buy the right tool for the job. Oh, I guess I did it anyway. Sorry.
    Anyway, I can relate. Even on windows machines there are always problems playing some of the old games. Hope you get it working.

    • Sand Pee

      February 28, 2016 at 9:49 am

      You don’t need dual boot, just run Win through virtualbox directly from MacOS.

  • Sand Pee

    February 28, 2016 at 9:47 am

    Mike, download VirtualBox for MacOS, then take Win7, Win8, Win10 or maybe even old WinxP .iso system installation CD/DVD and run windows in virutal mode from MacOS. This will take you 15min to setup and the cool thing is that runs from MacOS in separate window, so you will be using MacOS and Windows at the same time 🙂 Check YouTube on how to setup virtualBox on MacOS
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL7Dh6drlBw

  • Gorgar

    February 28, 2016 at 9:47 am

    There actually are pinball emulators (like visual pinball) and you can actually play Baby Pacman on it.

  • kasetti

    February 28, 2016 at 10:16 am

    If i understood you correctly you said that the laptop connects to a pc that records the footage and you also said that the hori works on your pc, so just an idea would it be easier to hook your pc to the tv and play on it

  • Rafi Guroian

    February 28, 2016 at 10:46 am

    Mike, if you want to run Boot Camp, like others have said, that would be your simplest way of getting windows running neatly on the Mac and then providing full compatibility with the controller. That said, however, I am really surprised that USB overdrive was not ultimateky a solution. If it were me, I would contact USB overdrive support folks and see if they can help make absolutely certain that USB overdrive will not help you. If I had to guess, USB overdrive will enable you to run everything natively on the Mac without having to load windows. The product is, in fact, intended to be the no mess, no overthinking, solution for this sort of stuff. I am an Apple engineer, and I’m happy to help, so just message me if you would like to talk further. My email address is in my profile.

  • February 28, 2016 at 10:52 am

    Sorry to hear you’re having problems. I’ve been there before, I know how irritating it can be.

    To put your problem simply, gaming on a Mac is just not ideal. Mac isn’t known for being gaming machines on any level really. You can game on them, yes, but technical stuff, PC dominates Mac in this area. Microsoft makes Windows, and all their new stuff in compatible between Windows and Xbox.

    I’m sure there is a way to make your situation work, but simply being on a Mac is what’s holding you back.

  • February 28, 2016 at 10:55 am

    Just use Windows… Xbox One (and 360) controllers are literally plug and play. The drivers are already included with Windows.

  • Swedgin

    February 28, 2016 at 11:09 am

    Easiest way would be to install Windows to your Mac. During boot you can choose between OSX and Windows and launch whichever you need. No need to buy a new laptop but you’ll need Windows license.

  • February 28, 2016 at 11:11 am

    Mike, I would recommend making a stick that’s what I did. Get a Mini-Pac controller interface and some Happ or IL joystick and buttons. This way you can make the buttons straight like older arcade machines too. You can get a 4 way stick too.

    Something like this http://gameroomdesigns.ca/shop/fight-stick-cabinet-kit/fightmaster-fight-stick-kit/

  • February 28, 2016 at 11:29 am

    Use a VGA to HDMI adaptor on your girlfriend’s laptop for a quick and dirty solution.

  • February 28, 2016 at 11:39 am

    It must be a guy thing to talk about the little problems faced when working on a project expecting people to care. My dad tells me his little project in great details all the time. I do the same. My past time, besides working on little projects, is telling my parents and people I meet by shaking my phone on We Chat. Do any other guys do that? Has anybody ever known a woman to do that?

  • Descant

    February 28, 2016 at 11:42 am

    Quick answer: Apple is shit, don’t waste money on their products.
    Serious answer: as someone has already said, just use Bootcamp or VirtualBox or VMware to install a copy of any Windows OS. It’s easy and takes less than an hour.

  • February 28, 2016 at 11:44 am

    Mike, oh my god, u a fucken grown man, and u ranting like a schoolboy on a torrent tracker. Seriously, everybody knows that most gaming equipment doesnt go well with Apple shit. U are blowin the price of a decent Win laptop to some shitty third-party joysticks, but u cant have nothing more then a jurassic laptop of your girlfriend? Why?

    Play on fucken Linux if u want to rant some more, or buy a Win laptop and get going.

  • BobbyZ

    February 28, 2016 at 11:53 am

    Yo Mike!

    I registered just to try and help you out. 🙂 I’m a Mac tech, and I’ve had the very same problem. I have found a solution! My issue was that Xbox controllers don’t play nice with my/any Macbook. I do have a TvC Wii Fightstick, so I purchased a MAYFLY WII CLASSIC CONTROLLER TO USB cable. After getting it all hooked up, it still wouldn’t work, so I looked for better mapping software. I found one called JOYSTICK MAPPER, which has become my preferred Mac button mapper. With this mix of cable, hardware, and software, I was able to play games with the arcade stick. I have found another workaround using the same Wii Fightstick. With a program called WJOY, I can connect my wiimote via bluetooth to my Macbook, and use my stick via the wiimote controller port. I’ve been very successful with both of these setups, and either way, it’s a pretty cheap fix (relatively) to the whole Mac controller issue. Keep in mind that Wii classic controllers will also work using this setup.

    I think it also might be possible to mod a stick for your purpose, but that would require installing another/different pcb. I’m not at all sure what you’re options would be, though.

    I’m a fan of your let’s play stuff, it’s fun to watch. I also like getting to see Bootsy when he gets on. Tell him Bootsy Beats is awesome, I’m def still looking forward to the next one 🙂

    • BobbyZ

      February 28, 2016 at 11:56 am

      Oh, and don’t worry about all the PC heathens up there. They have no idea the difference having a Mac makes to creating media 🙂

  • Dr. Breakfastmachine

    February 28, 2016 at 12:05 pm

    My suggestion would be, since you already have arcade sticks for both Xbox and Playstation, to just get some classic arcade compilation disks for those systems and play them that way rather than trying to jury-rig a system with the NES and a computer.

    Those discs usually have much more faithful ports of the arcade games than the respective NES versions, so if you’re going for authenticity, it would be to your advantage.

  • February 28, 2016 at 12:19 pm

    Hey Mike, sorry for going off-topic, but I see you are using a Framemeister upscaler. Are you running your multi-switchers through it, so that you don’t have to constantly switch out the cords for whatever console you want upscaled? If so, does it seem to affect the performance at all? I’ve been wanting one, but wasn’t sure if you could do that with it.

  • dah jabbah

    February 28, 2016 at 12:31 pm

    I wish you would stream on Twitch.TV, most people watch live stream gaming there. YouTube really sucks, Mike! I can never find out when you’re streaming, not to mention all the drama surrounding youtube these days 🙁

  • February 28, 2016 at 12:40 pm

    You can also use virtualbox or parallels on mac to emulate windows so you can use the controller. Or you can just buy a DVI – HDMI cable to transfer the picture and the audio to your tv (yes, it transfers audio as well). If you have DVI you’re fine, but if you have VGA connector you can only transfer the picture.

  • February 28, 2016 at 1:28 pm

    I expected something very different with that title

  • February 28, 2016 at 1:41 pm

    You’d have better luck just starting an Arcade collection. lmao

  • February 28, 2016 at 1:45 pm

    The other thing about PCs is they are normally way more compatible and they are plug and play. There is even the DS3 PS3 controller downloading tool for PS3 controllers but wireless and wired. You need to do your research. I can understand that people want to use what they own but that can cut into your savings. Checking out forums and looking around is a definite suggestion but if you want to play just Atari 2600 or Atari 8-bit or Atari 400/800 you would be better off using Wii with the Letterbomb hack. It saves a lot of time and you would not have to waste too much money and I believe they have wireless Wii classic controllers. I understand the Arcade experience but you want to play the classic games.

  • February 28, 2016 at 1:46 pm

    Try Tekken Fighting Stick, I’ve used a ps2 version with usb adapter for years. Or for a really authentic pc setup try X-Arcade.

  • slientkill

    February 28, 2016 at 2:01 pm

    problem is with the mac, not the stick.

  • The Fettuck

    February 28, 2016 at 2:01 pm

    It’s funny to see that there are still people that don’t know the differents between PC (Windows) and OSX (Mac)!! 😀

  • Xotice

    February 28, 2016 at 2:04 pm

    Install parallels on your MAC and run windows. Problem solved.

  • Icespider

    February 28, 2016 at 2:12 pm

    Here is your fix ( I believe, should my assumption of your problem be right) Use the ps3 hori stick and download Better DS3 tool for mac. Map Controls and play games. It makes your pc OR MAC think it’s an xbox 360 controller. Here is a link for a tutorial

    http://recomhub.com/blog/ps3-controller-on-mac/

    Also your welcome. Been a fan since Ghostbusters. Cheers

    Costa

  • February 28, 2016 at 2:22 pm

    Why so many viewers and comments here?

  • GorgeousBones

    February 28, 2016 at 2:39 pm

    This is weird because my Hori Real Arcade Pro 3 works just fine on my MAC. I think it’s the same MAC as yours too Mike, it’s a late 2013 Pro. Have you tried checking if the controller works with “controllers lite”? It’s an app on the mac store should be free to and lets you check it a controller is recognized properly.

    • February 28, 2016 at 3:20 pm

      A virtual machine with Win 7, 8.1 or 10 could work and the MAC Mike has does sound like a new one. Of course, there is software to check your specs to see how good it is, but this is a driver issue more than a hardware/software issue.

      I think Mike would be better off checking out forums and seeing what similar results have concluded in. I am unsure of the connector this Hori uses but there are ways to find connectors to connect certain devices to in order to use certain devices.

      Other than that, the PC is the best platform for such a device.

      • GorgeousBones

        February 29, 2016 at 5:33 am

        No doubt about it, put for video editing and music recording a mac does offer advantages. So there’s reasons to buy those products.

  • Thin Thrizzy

    February 28, 2016 at 2:48 pm

    Jesus Christ. A 9 minute video wherein you cry like a total bitch because you can’t get what you want? How about a little quality control here?

  • February 28, 2016 at 3:01 pm

    There is no such thing as perfection. Even MACs have their own OSes so that means you need to check the success of which MAC OS is best. Personally for me just getting to play the games is what made it for me. I can understand the comfort factor, but wireless controllers would be something to get. Unless you want to build a neogeo model and mame model in an arcade machine with emulators I see no purpose. Having a universal console is something a PC can give or the Wii. As for Hori and what I have read, itsays it works fine on PC for PS3 and Xbox 360. Not sure what to say.

  • February 28, 2016 at 3:08 pm

    Check Mike if there are splitters or connectors which work more universally. I am sure some exist as SNES can connect with PC with specific third party devices. The same goes with NES and N64. Some probably exist out there. Remember USB has replaced PS2 devices long ago and websites with the Hori do have help sections on their sites. Nothing wrong with sending in your questions.

  • February 28, 2016 at 3:46 pm

    Here is an idea: – try using Enjoy2 with the PS3 controller that worked for you in order to map the inputs from the arcade stick to keyboard/mouse inputs and use these in the emulator.

    Good luck!

  • TheDers

    February 28, 2016 at 3:58 pm

    Hate to break it to you Mike, but even if you get the joystick to work, they are 8-way joysticks (fighting games) and you’re trying to use it on games that were designed for 4-way joysticks (maze games.) I built an arcade machine back in 2001 and ran into that issue. Basically if you accidentally move the joystick up-left/up-right etc. it will cancel out the movement and nothing will happen. You’ll need a custom built 4-way joystick to properly enjoy those old games.

    It can be done, but Apple doesn’t play well with others, so you might be SOL either way because the hardware might not be recognized on Mac. I’d look into what other guys did when they built their controls. Check out arcade control forums and research what the guys there did to get their stuff to work.

    • Steve A.

      February 28, 2016 at 7:35 pm

      ^^^^
      Yes, Mike, this guy has an excellent point about arcade controls even if you got your Hori working.

      Most golden age arcade games use a 4-way stick. That means that it only registers up/down/left/right. That makes a HUGE difference when playing games like Pac-Man and Dig Dug.

      8-way sticks still have 4 switches, but are physically laid out suck that two can be activated at once, giving you 4 more directions (diagonals) for 8 today. A must for fighting games.

      But the diagonals interfere with Pac-Man. This is why they added that “skid mark” feature to modern Pac-Man games (like Pac-Man CE). The skid marks sparks fly out when you are accidentally pressing a diagonal, so as to give the player some feedback.

      You can try to set it to change directions when you press a diagonal (soft turn) or not change directions until you move all the way through a diagonal to a cardinal (hard turn) but NEITHER compromise are work a crap.

      The best solution I’ve seen is the Mag-Stik Plus by Ultimarc, which can be switched between 4 and 8-way by pulling up and twisting the stick.

  • Delightism

    February 28, 2016 at 4:27 pm

    You’re on to something here! Great video.

  • jonwvsu

    February 28, 2016 at 4:45 pm

    Sounds to me like low USB port voltage on the part of the laptop. I had a PowerBook G4 that had this problem. As a workaround, I used a cable from an external harddrive. The cable had two male USB ports on one side, and a mini male USB on the other. I plugged the data USB into the laptop, and the other one into a cell phone charger. Then I used a female mini USB to regular female USB, then plugged my harddrive or controllers into that. It sounds like everything was going fine until you loaded you game and the computer stared sending all your power to graphics. Crappy diagram here: http://bit.ly/24vR3zz

  • February 28, 2016 at 5:41 pm

    It’s just not compatible with Mac, it’s that simple.

  • Vagn Foote

    February 28, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    Mike,

    Use bootcamp and install Windows 7 on your macbook. Problem solved.

  • February 28, 2016 at 7:30 pm

    Hey Mike, I saw your girlfriends laptop had a VGA output, that should go into the Framemeister. Hope that works.

  • February 28, 2016 at 7:58 pm

    This should be a YKWB episode lol

  • Steve A.

    February 28, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    The X-Arcade Solo is much smaller and, as a USB device, it’s just a keyboard. It’ll work with anything (even Linux), no drivers required.

  • Ethereal Eternal

    February 28, 2016 at 9:37 pm

    I think your best bet would to be getting something like this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UUROWWK/ which you would have to rewire the stick but it would show up to the OS be it OSX or Windows as a normal HID Joystick device. There are a ton of different arcade to usb boards out there, this is just the cheapest one I saw, so a better one might be available.

  • Wayne

    February 28, 2016 at 9:43 pm

    This video is like a trailer to a hilarious documentary where Mike goes around the world trying to get a good arcade-style video game controller that works on his Mac laptop… in the end he torches the laptop and gets a PC.

    The MAME emulator on my PC works well… you can play just about any old arcade game imaginable using any style of controller you want. :-p

    Here is the updated driver that supposedly supports Hori Real Arcade Pro for Mac:
    http://github.com/360Controller/360Controller

  • February 28, 2016 at 10:05 pm

    I dont complain when I cant a block of cheese with Lego brike Mike. C’mon man, you are gonna have to bite the bullet eventually and get a laptop if you need one. I recommend a Toshiba or Acer, both under $700.

    Sincerely, a really big fan,

    Super Fucking Mario

  • February 28, 2016 at 11:58 pm

    you can emulate windows OS on a mac if you have a copy and then it would work.

  • semontrax

    February 29, 2016 at 2:20 am

    This was a lot of fun to watch, you chould totally consider Angry Motherfucker Mike’s Tech Fucks. Or Tech Tales or something.

    • February 29, 2016 at 1:58 pm

      At that poitn he becomes a cheap copy of the AVGN, but with tech crap. Cussing to cuss is ordinarily stupid.

  • February 29, 2016 at 2:52 am

    why dont you just use it on the desktop PC you are streaming it with? Because you know it will work there.

  • yoshiua

    February 29, 2016 at 3:01 am

    Since Mike seems to delete my comments, here is the short version (after working with Apple crap for 30 years as an actual engineer):
    -Never buy Apple
    -Never buy Laptops

    Oh, and Mike. Please try to be more pleasent. It’s hard to bear the parts where you start talking.

  • February 29, 2016 at 3:34 am

    SHIT PICKLE

  • February 29, 2016 at 1:57 pm

    Why not just play on the PC that your stuff is connected too?

  • RosevilleReaper

    February 29, 2016 at 6:37 pm

    Well your trying to game on a mac that’s your problem.Mac’s SUCK for gaming!!Its not a PC its a MAC!You do realize a WINDOWS pc is the ultimate gaming experience rite? It seams like you enjoy games you should treat yourself and build a gaming rig.im suse after you play GTAIV with iceinhancer,walk around in VR with the HTC Vive,play some DayZ,and enjoy some of the stuff pc has to offer you wont even want to stream crappy NES games..For god sake man you have a high resolution TV your Atari 2600 and ps4’s arnt going to push those pixels…Get a WINDOWS PC already and grow up..You can 100% accurately emulate any NES game on a pc.. use a usb nes controller if you need to nerd out and feel like your in 1989 again..

  • RosevilleReaper

    February 29, 2016 at 6:51 pm

    Ill gladly show you and james what modern and older games look like in 4k on a gaming PC if you want..I feel bad seeing you game on all those potatoes you have under your television set…Keep all your consoles and games as collectibles.. play all of there games on EMU’s from your pc just stop fighting it..Why burn out those dyeing old consoles by playing them? that’s a bigger waste of money than buying a pc .which is a useful tool as well as gaming rig that evey adult should own..

  • RosevilleReaper

    February 29, 2016 at 6:53 pm

    Sorry man but seeing you whine about this was just really irritating

  • Jason Adkins

    February 29, 2016 at 8:09 pm

    I feel your pain Mike. It shouldn’t be anywhere near that much aggravation to get that thing working on a mac, I’ve encountered similar issues with my mac over the years. The manufactures are idiots to not include mac support.

  • itscmillertime

    February 29, 2016 at 8:19 pm

    The angry mame nerd

  • Tommy W

    February 29, 2016 at 9:11 pm

    Mike,

    Parallel your Macbook with Windows.
    When you boot your computer, it’ll ask if you want to start it using your OS X, or Windows.. Boot it in windows mode, boom, good to go.
    I use this for work, as we run microsoft PCs. Zero glitches this way.

    Take care.

  • Ian Jungling

    March 1, 2016 at 12:18 am

    Mike you are the new Angry Video Game Nerd!!

    • Ian Jungling

      March 1, 2016 at 12:22 am

      And this video totally reminds me how I feel when I try to get anything done in this stupid incompatible finger pointing modern world.

  • March 1, 2016 at 2:05 am

    Hi Mike,

    It’s made on purpose. They use non-standard, proprietary drivers to make you buy an exclusive piece of hardware. Example: I tried to use the PS3 joystick via bluetooth on Linux. Only the *original* joystick works and you still have tweaks your system to make it work, because the bluetooth controller in the joystick is non-standard. OTOH the WiiU pro controller uses the standard bluetooth protocol and will work without much problems on any SO – I only had to install xwiimote here and *bang* it worked like a charm, plug-and-play style. Is there an Arcade-like controller for the WiiU?

    Anyway, since X-Arcade is such a big-sized monster, I really wanted to try out this ELECOM one http://www.wired.com/2007/05/decent_cheap_us/ but I couldn’t find it anywhere.

    PS: show us the Blue Japanese 72-pin Gradius II 😉

  • March 1, 2016 at 10:27 am

    It’s like they should comparatively choose the best features of both coding frequencies and build a stable version which can be universally recognized, regional blocks probably must band or find their wereabouts in hacking’em up. Yet an illegitimate waste of time and bucks since they will be pushing with a NEW hori controller which is based on PC gaming fandom, but welcomes people to migrate to Mac. I understand..

  • Nozzy

    March 1, 2016 at 10:55 am

    Have you tried using a Windows Virtual Machine? It may work if you run the emulator on a Windows VM after you’ve mapped the controls.

  • itscmillertime

    March 1, 2016 at 1:31 pm

    Why didn’t you just get a converter for an NES MAX?

  • greedo

    March 1, 2016 at 3:48 pm

    Hey, Mike, been reading some of the comments here, and… I feel your frustration. I really do. Technology can make our lives more enjoyable, but they can also make things a pain in the butt. What many of your readers don’t understand is… PC is dying. Their marketshare is dying, and it’s being taken up by smartphones and tablets. That’s the future. Meanwhile, Apple’s % of the Home Computer market is increasing(last I checked, it was 14.1)% People have to realize that Microsoft (and PC makers) are no longer king. It is a dying business, which has failed to adapt to the demands of the marketplace.

    Tim Cook said it himself- The PC is dead. So, you would think that with Apple’s overall share of computers growing, you’d think that games peripheral makers would wise up and make some Apple-centric solutions. I think they will wake up, but it will take them awhile, because PC is still a large part of their revenue scheme. But when even IBM pulls out of the PC market, that tells you something.

    Anyway, I guess what I’m trying to say is that I totally sympathize with your dilemma, and hope you find a solution that works for you.

    • arock0627

      March 2, 2016 at 6:21 am

      Sorry to burst your bubble, but PC is the largest games market in the world by several orders of magnitude. It’s only “dying” in the same way that a newborn is dying because eventually they will die. Apple is not nor will it ever be a center for gaming, especially because you cannot upgrade the hardware and the graphical hardware it has is usually obsolete quickly. So, no, PC gaming is not dying. If anything, it’s become resurgent in the past few years.

      • greedo

        March 2, 2016 at 2:54 pm

        And I hate to burst your bubble, but what you said doesn’t alter my point. The PC model is dead. It’s going to be mostly smartphones and tablets. Take a look at the Microsoft store, you don’t see that many desktops. Same at the Apple store. They used to have two tables at the front that were dedicated to their desktops, now, they only have them at the back of the store.

        That should tell you something, right there. As for your point abt Apple never being a center for gaming, what you say there might be true. But keep in mind that they never got developer support anyway, b/c they never had the kind of install base that PC did. Is PC still profitable? Yes. But the era of the traditional desktop is over, and PC will eventually go the way of the dinosaur.

      • arock0627

        March 4, 2016 at 7:23 am

        The death of the PC has been forecasted more times than I care to remember. There’s a reason desktops aren’t on displays, they aren’t in Apple stores, and that’s audience. Apple folk aren’t exactly the kind of people I’d call power users, at least not the ones who get iMacs or laptops. PC’s are sold by the millions each year. Gaming PC’s are the single biggest segment of the market and the portable technologies that exist cannot replace them, only the WalMart desktops. Sorry man, with Intel just putting out brand new architecture, Nvidia and AMD making next gen video cards, and new names in the PC Desktop market all the time, it’s not going anywhere until a laptop or a tablet can possibly compete in raw power.

  • Superspecs

    March 1, 2016 at 5:10 pm

    If you are going for true authenticity you may want to change the type/orientation of the restrict or gate on your stick. Some arcade cabinets have anything from 2-way 16-way or no gate at all.

  • BADam

    March 1, 2016 at 5:32 pm

    Anyone who buys apple or uses Linux (casually) has a reckoning coming eventually! You need to stick to well trod paths or learn lower level machine code. or use Softpedia, exploit eager grad students!

  • March 1, 2016 at 10:37 pm

    I don’t know if this has already been said but, on your GF’s laptop, does she have a VGA out? Could just use a VGA-HDMI adapter and go that route? It won’t be perfect but it would work.

  • March 2, 2016 at 7:08 pm

    Mike was going slightly mad on this video

  • SandBoxGiant

    March 2, 2016 at 9:19 pm

    Get,X-Arcade Tank Stick.

    Don’t listen to the dorks on there that suggest anything else.

  • Rambowl

    March 2, 2016 at 11:36 pm

    Apple always makes everything difficult.

  • xpythongaming

    March 3, 2016 at 1:47 pm

    mac’s don’t like games…

  • March 3, 2016 at 1:56 pm

    One simple answer.. PCs are for gaming, MACs are not!

  • March 4, 2016 at 2:16 pm

    Yep, controllers that aren’t either a keyboard or a mouse generally aren’t supported right out of the box on a Mac.
    One thing you could have done though was do install Windows alongside OS X on your MacBook using Boot Camp. That way you’d be able to run Windows and also get the HDMI output. Nice that you got it working in the end though.

  • March 6, 2016 at 1:25 pm

    Hey Mike, try running VMware Fusion to emulate windows of your choice on OSX and see if it will recognize the joypad and also output via HDMI.

  • March 7, 2016 at 7:20 am

    Just throwing this out there..

    I’ve got the Red Hori RAP V (Japanese) and its 100% plug n play with windows 7/10/PS4. No switch necessary. Just plug it in, load up USF4 on PC, it works. Unplug, pop into PS4, it works.

    You could also maybe do some research into buying a TE2/TE2+
    They’re full Sanwa parts from the factory, and may cost a bit more, (at least you dont have to get them shipped from Japan) but I’ve never used one so i cant say how well they work on the platforms.

  • March 7, 2016 at 8:22 pm

    if you ever want to get a ps4 controller to work on your pc download this ds4 tool from this link http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-DS4-To-XInput-Wrapper even works on most of my steam games the only problem you have to keep the cord plugged in unless you have a bluetooth then you can plug in a bluetooth to your pc soo the controller can communicate to your pc and you can play wirelessly i have only done it wired tho because i don’t have a bluetooth you can also use it to play emulators if you choose

  • March 7, 2016 at 8:31 pm

    i recommend the 1.2.2 version because thats what i got it working with but you can choose what ever version you see fit all the program basically does is fool your pc to think its a pc controller and it does work flawlessly

  • March 10, 2016 at 1:32 am

    You just got to git gud at connecting things.

  • FullMetalHobbit

    March 10, 2016 at 10:10 am

    Mike why don’t you buy a Raspberry Pi and load all your arcade games onto that with whatever emulator you are using then hook that up to your TV. Then get your self a custom MAME controller and you’ve basically got your own arcade machine. That’s what I have and it works fine. You can pick a Pi up for about 20 quid UK money so be cheaper stateside and the controllers vary but mine was like 60 or something.

  • March 11, 2016 at 1:55 pm

    I see you got it working. What i would have done well A thats what happends when you have to game on a mac. However B with the girlfriends old laptop i would have just got a dvi or vga to hdmi converter head or cable. Problem solved for the hdmi video connection.

  • March 11, 2016 at 7:35 pm

    You’re going to have to buy a Windows laptop. Sorry

  • March 30, 2016 at 2:20 pm

    The laptop does not have HDMI port? Well, of course not. It is a computer, not a television. I wonder if a computer with such a port even exist?

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