Splatoon (Wii U) Mike & Ryan

Mike Matei / June 23rd, 2015

Mike and Ryan will be doing a panel Saturday June 27th at TooManyGames con in Oaks PA. For more info go to http://toomanygames.com/

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  • Dylan Spallin

    June 23, 2015 at 6:05 am

    I can’t wait to play this game!!! Ive been waiting since launch for my copy to come in the mail along with Witcher 3. Getting very impatient! Great video!

    • Smokingspoon

      June 23, 2015 at 9:35 am

      Wtf is tha guy Ryan talking about.. Like any gameplay nowaday are perfectly original. As if Witcher didn’t glue together stuff done before countless times.
      I think it’s a pretty refreshing shooter despite some flaws.

      And the fashion thing being late, well don’t forget it’s japan, they’re often a bit late or different with decade’s fashions.
      That game does have 90’s Nickelodeon, mario sunshine and team fortress written all over it, and I love it.

      • June 23, 2015 at 11:01 am

        Japan is late with fashion? lol what are you basing that on?

      • ToadRoad

        June 23, 2015 at 11:40 pm

        I think he’s saying they took a small piece of a game made of many, many small pieces (Mario Party 4) and tried to expand that into a whole game without doing much else.

      • Smokingspoon

        June 24, 2015 at 11:20 am

        Asia often had a thing with a bit older fashions. Deliberately, or just that it was late, I do not know. Everytime I watch a japanese movie, the 80’s have 70’s style, the 90’s 80’s. I couldn’t say if it’s the same still today with internet connecting people much more. I haven’t seen recent days movies… But it was definitely a thing.
        Japan always had a thing for kitsch too

      • June 27, 2015 at 4:53 am

        This is probably the worst video in this series. Comparing two games that aren’t even in the same genre? Splatoon is a blast, so what if it isn’t metroid or zelda. is Mike trying to say Nintendo shouldn’t be allowed to make anything else?

  • Nick

    June 23, 2015 at 6:28 am

    Disappointed that they seem so negative with this game. It’s my favorite game of the year so far…I have played it every day since launch and I see no signs of stopping with all the DLC on the way. Don’t let them discourage you from getting this if you are on the fence, it’s brilliant!

    • June 23, 2015 at 8:08 am

      I don’t think they were discouraging anyone, just 2 guys stating their opinion and Mike seemed like he really liked the game its just that he wants more from Nintendo and I agree with him.

      • Nick

        June 25, 2015 at 4:32 am

        They were comparing this game to Super Metroid which is extremely unfair. It wasn’t trying to be like that. It is going for more of the Mario Kart kind of vibe and I think it absolutely nailed it.

    • June 26, 2015 at 7:47 pm

      yea this game looks phenomenal if you are eight years old

    • June 30, 2015 at 4:59 am

      Ok fanboi, simmer down now, it’s going to be ok

  • Don Skiver

    June 23, 2015 at 6:35 am

    We need more “goofy kids” making games today. Too many chest high walls and too much brown in modern games. 😛

    • frostare

      June 23, 2015 at 1:20 pm

      Indeed, I’m glad what Nintendo created, is creating and will create. I’m not talking right now about the games, but of the gamers.

  • June 23, 2015 at 8:07 am

    Don’t forget the new Xenoblade game is out at the end of the year and that is going to be awesome!

  • Vivi

    June 23, 2015 at 8:11 am

    Actually i like Bloodborne. Check that game out.

  • June 23, 2015 at 8:25 am

    Finally, a M&R video on a game that doesn’t suck!

  • June 23, 2015 at 8:33 am

    Also, don’t use the Paintbrush or Gyro Controls, you’ll fare much better that way.

    • firestonex

      June 25, 2015 at 9:09 pm

      You’re crazy. The Gyro Controls are amazing and are so much better. I get top score every game. I know what I’m talking about.

  • June 23, 2015 at 8:58 am

    The thing I hate about these progression/level based shooters is that your options are supposedly balanced at every level, and they usually are, but I don’t see the point in making you level up to give you more variety. The game would be much more fun if you had everything unlocked from the start and could pick and counter-pick to your enemy team.

    • FinallyGAF

      June 23, 2015 at 9:35 am

      I think you are right. I like leveling in single player games… but I don’t like MMOs and that probably is the reason. I would love to play LOTRO, since they build this massive world… but I can’t stant raiding the same dungeons over and over just to get to a different area, especially if it depends on finding some people doing that with you. I also appreciate a pause button.

    • Smokingspoon

      June 23, 2015 at 9:41 am

      Ugh.. That kind of lazy reasoning that makes nowaday games cheap and with everything already unlocked. I love playing a game and be rewarded as I complete challenges. It’s part of the fun for me and many others.
      But for those who don’t like that, why not asking intead for cheat codes. It’s incredible how cheat codes are seemingly disappearing from games

    • firestonex

      June 25, 2015 at 9:10 pm

      Unlocking gives a sense of acomplishment, and allows you to try out new things gradually instead of being overwhelmed at the start.

  • June 23, 2015 at 11:52 am

    These guys sure were harsh on Splatoon… Then again, they quite honestly played horribly, so I guess it’s not that surprising. I mean yeah, I’m hard on games I suck at, so why would I expect any different?

    Splatoon is most fun when you actually learn how to play well and stop using the Rollers as crutches. Or at least learn how to defend yourself with a Roller instead of just holding ZR down the whole time and getting mad when you inevitably get splatted by someone who has more tactical sense than doing a Leeroy Jenkins impersonation. If you play Splatoon like that Mario Party minigame, then yes, it’s going to be just like that minigame. Because you didn’t even try to mix it up despite having such a huge variety of ways to do so.

  • June 23, 2015 at 12:02 pm

    Nintendo FINALLY makes a new IP and you guys crap on it. Shame on Nintendo for not relying on their old IP AGAIN. Not every game has to be 10/10 stars. At least they are trying something different.

  • dah jabbah

    June 23, 2015 at 12:30 pm

    You two are hilarious and you have awesome perspectives on gaming, great vids keep it up!

    Splatoon looks awesome except for one thing. I’ve never played it but i’ve only seen what looks like one map, or maybe it’s a different layout in the same areas. Game is $60, seems like a lot of fun but seriously lacking in content. I’d imagine it would be awesome then you’d hit a wall where it’s just too boring to play anymore.

    • Nick

      June 25, 2015 at 4:33 am

      They are releasing new maps every week…the game is brilliant and if you think it looks fun, you will love it. You need to try it.

    • firestonex

      June 25, 2015 at 9:13 pm

      what is cool about Splatoon is that they are unlocking new content every week. It makes the game contantly feel fresh, and keeps you wanting to come back to see what is new. It makes the game feel like a community event rather than just another shooter.

    • Aaron1375

      June 27, 2015 at 7:01 pm

      I was thinking the same thing. The game costs like the same as a game like Witcher III which easily has 300 hours of content right off the bat while here it looks pretty much like you are going to be doing the same thing over and over and over. Game should be maybe 40 bucks if this is all there is to it.

  • LumpyKoalaBear

    June 23, 2015 at 12:54 pm

    “You’re a squid, Harry!”

    • bud

      June 23, 2015 at 8:27 pm

      Were they laughing hysterically about that, or the fact that their little squid was doing frog leaps?

      • ToadRoad

        June 23, 2015 at 11:43 pm

        They were laughing at the idea that a hovering, leaping squid roaming the skate park is what Nintendo perceives as hip.

  • June 23, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    Why isn’t this one on youtube?

  • Vunjak

    June 23, 2015 at 1:06 pm

    Calling Splatoon a ripoff of Stamp Out from Mario Party 4 is just silly. Sure, you want to get the most area covered, but nearly everything else is different. Mike calling the colors ugly is his opinion but I don’t see it. It’s vibrant and all the colors with the exception of maybe that lime green are just beautiful. Mike was way too hard on this game in my opinion, but hey he’s allowed to not like it. I like how they go and say “this game is not super metroid, star fox, etc” right after saying “well I’m glad they’re trying something different though”. Real consistent.

    I do agree with most of the other points they make. You”ll never see white paint, but maybe you could see blooper maybe. I do hope they stop encouraging idle people with experience points.

    • Nick

      June 25, 2015 at 4:35 am

      idle people do not get experience. Mikes friend was terrible at the game and didn’t seem to give it a fair chance.

  • Charles Hepburn II

    June 23, 2015 at 1:08 pm

    I liked it better on Wii when it was called DeBlob… I was just playing it last night with my daughters. Zelda better be good all right! I hope they spec bump the Wii U like they did the New 3DS and that it provides more CPU and RAM etc. to make Zelda Wii U even more killer and push things to the max.

  • Joker83

    June 23, 2015 at 1:34 pm

    Honestly I would rather play this than “Witcher 3” or “bloodhorn” any day of the week.

  • frostare

    June 23, 2015 at 1:38 pm

    I want the King Squid, Squidzilla and Tentacular (Dragon Quest III for NES) skin. =)

    Wait, didn’t you stated that original games will always be better than new games in the series? I don’t know why people always look at a new Nintendo game as the last game they’ll ever make *shrugs*.

  • Labyrinth2_0

    June 23, 2015 at 1:57 pm

    Mike, Don’t make fun of things you aren’t familiar with deeply, especially with the 90’s Nickelodeon stuff that I grew up with…

    • firestonex

      June 25, 2015 at 9:15 pm

      Ya. I love the 90’s feel.

  • Rag

    June 23, 2015 at 2:06 pm

    The people in matches who got 0p was probably because they got disconnected, not AFKing.

    • firestonex

      June 25, 2015 at 9:16 pm

      Exactly, the game still has some communication errors and disconnections from time to time. It’s getting better, but still happening.

  • jasonjrf

    June 23, 2015 at 2:12 pm

    He wasn’t talking to his mom or getting something to eat. He was packing a bowl give him a break.

  • Phoenix7786

    June 23, 2015 at 2:53 pm

    …did Mike just admit he was cheating with a hack? Or did he mean some upgrade he had unlocked? Guess he really is Motherfucker Mike.

    • June 23, 2015 at 7:24 pm

      I don’t know what part you’re talking about, but I didn’t cheat or hack anything.

    • June 23, 2015 at 10:23 pm

      @Highwing: TROLL DETECTED

    • itsallgoode9

      June 30, 2015 at 11:06 pm

      HAT. he said he was wearing the “respawn HAT”. it was an upgrade or onlock or whatever.

  • June 23, 2015 at 9:58 pm

    Those yellow squares arranged in lines at time 11:39 remind me exaclty of the sidewalks in China. In China, no matter where you go, the sidewalks are the same. they use square foot pavers, red and green (or grey? I cant remember). And running down the middle, of these pavers they have pavers exactly like the ones you see that i just pointed out. I was told that they are for blind people, because they have the raised texture that they can feel, i guess with their cane.

  • June 23, 2015 at 10:22 pm

    Ryan fuckin’ said it! This game gets a: (Zelda better be fuckin’ good)/10

  • doublesbrian

    June 23, 2015 at 10:32 pm

    Mike,

    You mentioned playing with the gamepad. Surprised you didn’t mention that if yo tap your teammates name you can jump/teleport to them. I didn’t see you do that at any point in the video.

  • thefro

    June 24, 2015 at 7:08 pm

    Mike since you own the game and like it I suggest you play through the single-player campaign as it’s only 4-5 hours long. Really great and creative. The final boss may be one of the best Nintendo has ever made. You’ll get a better grasp on how awesome the multiplayer is beyond the rollers.

    • Nick

      June 25, 2015 at 4:36 am

      EXACTLY! It forces you to get good with the guns, then going online with a gun is so much more satisfying for me than rolling.

  • Deathbringer

    June 25, 2015 at 9:28 am

    The games industry has always been based around iteration. Nothing wrong with that guys. It doesn’t have to re-invent the wheel and everything about it to be good. Diving in and out of the paint like a squid is pretty original. Like I just said, you don’t have to be fully original in every single facet; that’s an arbitrary limitation that won’t even guarantee adding up to a *fun* game even if you try to satisfy it.

  • June 25, 2015 at 11:34 am

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  • Joe Confrey

    June 25, 2015 at 8:53 pm

    Mike you can turn off the motion controls and just use the camera with the right stick if you go in the settings

    • firestonex

      June 25, 2015 at 9:18 pm

      ya, but gyro controls are so much better.

  • firestonex

    June 25, 2015 at 8:54 pm

    No, you don’t have a huge advantage if you are a higher level. The stat boosts are pretty minimal, and the weapon unlocks are not necesarry better. I got to lvl 20 in a week, and I still use the default Splattershot Jr. And you know what. I am always the top score, even with the default loadout.

  • firestonex

    June 25, 2015 at 8:56 pm

    You like to cover the walls? The walls don’t count towards the score!

  • firestonex

    June 25, 2015 at 8:58 pm

    the player level really means nothing. So many lvl 20’s are shitty. You lvl up so fast and easily.

  • firestonex

    June 25, 2015 at 9:07 pm

    I am so in love with Splatoon right now, that this video is actually, physically making me angry.

  • firestonex

    June 25, 2015 at 9:17 pm

    I wonder if Mike knows that this game is set in the post apocalypse. This game is dark.

  • Anodos7

    June 26, 2015 at 8:32 am

    Boo, this review smacks of just not getting it.

    It’s clear Mike and Ryan aren’t very familiar with the game on many points (e.g., levels don’t necessarily mean better or hugely-advantaged players, walls don’t count for points, the roller isn’t the be all and end all of strategic play, Ryan devotes all this time in the beginning on AFKing for experience before Mike finally says that this game doesn’t work that way) but still felt like drubbing it. The analogies used to disparage the game are frivolous. Not Super Metroid. Well, what is? Just like Mario Party’s Stamp Out? Many good games can be superficially compared to earlier games or simpler mini-games, and calculating wins via is a perfectly legitimate take on the multiplayer shooter genre.

    The vibe of the game was dismissed as “Nintendo trying to be cool,” but for me Super Best Friends captured why the game has its own unique and fun atmosphere, as well as why it’s a great game.

  • Aaron1375

    June 27, 2015 at 2:04 pm

    Have to agree with Ryan, just seems to narrow a game. The game play needs more variety, it’s as if you are just playing a prolonged mini game.

  • Geir

    June 27, 2015 at 7:37 pm

    I was glad to see you play this game and had actually been thinking of requesting you guys to rewview it. Seeing the video made me disappointed though, I think you pulled the trigger a little too quick on this one.

    As revealed in the video you’re only a rank 8 which means you don’t even have access to ranked battles which imo is a lot more fun and not so repetive and a wide range of weapons that are not the best in turf wars excel in this mode.

    So I wish you had waited till you were lvl20 or something and knew all the in and outs of the game to review it but I guess that’s too late now :/

  • Goatgruff13

    June 28, 2015 at 5:31 pm

    It looks insanely boring to me. I can see what Ryan means. It looks beautiful graphically, and from what they said all the controls game play are good… but it just looks boring. Just doesn’t seem like a game that I would be that into, and I think that’s how Ryan felt. It may be awesome for what it is, but it’s not his cup o’ tea. To each their own! Some of you need to quit fanboying so hard and accept differing opinions lol.

    • Aaron1375

      June 28, 2015 at 5:36 pm

      Yeah, really. This isn’t the type of game that looks like you need to play more to know if your going to like it or not. I can watch this video and tell it would bore me to tears as I am more into RPG type games rather than multiplayer type ones. I’ve actually wanted to play every game they’ve showcased so far except this one. I immediately bought Axiom Verge. I’m just not amazed by graphics and pretty colors.

    • Anodos7

      June 29, 2015 at 10:22 am

      Everyone’s free to play only what they like; what’s objectionable is drubbing a game with unfair comparisons.

      Mike and Ryan totally missed the Team Fortress 2 + Mario sunshine + Jet Set Radio feel that people who find the game fun are talking about, and instead dismiss the game as being a Stamp Out mini-game with better graphics and controls, Nintendo trying too hard to be “cool,” and not Super Metroid or Zelda.

      • June 30, 2015 at 5:03 am

        Are they being paid? Did you pay for the review?

        No?

        Then it’s neither fair nor unfair. What is fair is to expect their review to adhere and be structured to what you expect.

        It’s their content and expression. You can claim they are wrong in their opinions, but FAIR has nothing to do with anything in free content you get or you are a fascist fanboi who needs affirmative feedback all the time.

      • Anodos7

        July 1, 2015 at 6:19 am

        By “unfair comparisons” I mean that by the same principles one could make a lot of good games sound less polished and fun than they are to a lot of players. If I said “wrong” instead, would you be happier?

        The site does get paid through ad revenues. I’m not a Splatoon or Nintendo fanboy (I don’t own the game or a Wii U and don’t plan to in the foreseeable future; I used to be a console gamer but nowadays I really only play games on pc/Steam except occasionally when I’m with friends), but a number of experienced/core gaming sites and channels have done a good job of conveying Splatoon’s appeal. I simply take issue with this video because the game is dismissed for reasons in which the game is different and Mike and Ryan don’t seem to understand it (how the various mechanics work, how the points via terrain covered is an alternative to the kill counts of conventional online competitive shooters and not simply a narrow-premised mini-game like Mario Party Stamp Out, how the feel is like 90s retro and a Jet Set Radio-styled universe that speaks its own language and not Nintendo trying too hard to fit in to what’s cool, etc.).

      • July 2, 2015 at 4:29 am

        Yes yes false equate them getting ad revenue with people being paid directly to write commercial grade reviews or you paying for them directly if you must.

        A grain of salt is what you take from amateur game review. No matter how far fetched their review of it is, it is both valid and theirs to make under that premise, comparing them to other sites that do reviews professionally as a cores business is asinine.

        Point denied, they are here to entertain as well as give thoughts and are often mixing in personal characters that leak into all sorts of their content inconsistently.

        Getting mad at this is like getting mad at a street preachers technical view on aspects of the bible. Simmer down.

      • Rag

        July 2, 2015 at 12:29 pm

        I also don’t think Mike and Ryan come across very objectively or even very well for that matter in this discussion compared to some of their previous game talks. It’s a bit disappointing and disheartening, because as a fan of Cinemssacre, I had hoped there would be more of an effort from someone on this site to really hunker down and take a good crack at Splatoon rather than just glossing over it. I’d like to see James play it, too, if he’s interested.

      • Anodos7

        July 10, 2015 at 7:10 am

        Rag, I agree. Theirs and James’ content is usually pretty good, but this particular talk seemed like a step down in terms of enthusiastically giving a new and different game a chance.

        Pat, I’m not saying they don’t have a right to say it, so I don’t know what you’re blaring on about. The mere fact that I express disagreement with how the game is portrayed does not mean I’m therefore holding them to commercial review standards (none of which I have paid for since the advent of the internet and demise of gaming magazines–when was the last time you paid for a review of something?). Rag’s comment and my response above provide what I’ve come to expect from their talks on gaming.

  • June 29, 2015 at 11:46 am

    While I like the looks of this game, I’m not big on multiplayer-focused games. Nintendo has created some of the most impressive single-player experiences over the years. When it comes to Splatoon… it looks as though they’re just imitating the current trend of what other game makers are doing with online gaming and obviously putting their own spin on the process. I’d rather Nintendo just come out with unforgettable gaming experiences and be a trendsetter in that way – their way – than demoting their rank to that of a follower.

  • Dan021

    June 29, 2015 at 2:31 pm

    Review is, it’s not Metroid. Well that’s right. 🙂 With metroid federation force coming, there’s just no hope for a real 2D badass Metroid anymore. I feel sometimes as Nintendo as gone senile.

    Mario 3D World Wii U and Mario Kart are great. Even Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze is awesome. But cmon, they need to put there shit together, the next Starfox game looks like a poor gamecube title. It’s 2015, if you don’t have graphics it’s fine, but at least make it super original and detailed. Wake up Nintendo, go back to the drawing board and recapture the meaning of making a great game.

    • Dan021

      June 29, 2015 at 2:32 pm

      Oh but the 3DS games are insane. So good!

  • June 30, 2015 at 5:01 am

    luls at the fanboi tantrums going on.

    This game looks as boring as church.

  • Ben_from_G-town

    June 30, 2015 at 5:29 am

    This game looks cute and kinda’ fun, but yeah, like you guys said, it’s not THAT great.

  • June 30, 2015 at 6:25 pm

    Talking about colourful indie N-like games, you should check “Seabeard” for mobile and “Hover – Revolt of gamers” for pc, especially this one, which is impressively well done and has Hideki Kamiya working on the music score.

  • Nathan Rienstra

    July 2, 2015 at 2:31 pm

    I’m surprised there was no mention of the motion controls, and the fact that you can aim by tilting the GamePad. That’s actually the default control scheme, and it changes the experience/gameplay a lot more than people acknowledge. I mean, there’s never previously been a shooter on a home console with those kinds of controls. You have to actually change the settings manually if you want to play with the “standard” dual analog. And when Nintendo sets something as the default control scheme, you know it’s their way of saying, “This is brilliant shit. Stop crying and just try it. You’ll learn to love it.” Just like a lot of people learned to love the motion plus controls in Skyward Sword, to a point where they didn’t want to go back to playing Zelda without them. Kudos to Nintendo for always trying to find solutions to things that suck (like dual analog, which I’ve personally never been a fan of).

    • Nathan Rienstra

      July 3, 2015 at 6:29 pm

      Actually, I was wrong. Mike does tilt the GamePad at one point, and Ryan realizes that’s how he’s controlling the camera. My bad.

  • OmegaDez

    July 3, 2015 at 10:48 am

    And no, Ryan, you don’t get anything by being AFK in Splatoon. You need to paint stuff to get points.

  • OmegaDez

    July 3, 2015 at 10:58 am

    Mike and Ryan logic : “Awesome, it’s a new IP and not a rehash!” Two minutes later “They could have just put Mario and Link in there” and at the end “Zelda better be good.”

    So basically, we want new things, but we really don’t.

  • skwij

    August 9, 2015 at 3:37 pm

    You guys make a lot of good points… As always, its fun to watch you play and listen to your commentary. Thanks!

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