Mike Matei / February 9th, 2015
February 9, 2015 at 4:48 am
Out of all the games in your collection… Friday the 13th?
February 9, 2015 at 7:13 am
It’s funny how James is full of nostalgia with that game and Mike keeps ranting about it lol.
Mike says it sucks to not know where the fire are lit. But here they are are, talking about it, having fun, putting tape on the screen. Making map for yourself on paper, taking notes, etc.. Older tough games not telling you anything about anything, really had that ‘pajama party’ kind of vib.. ♥
February 9, 2015 at 10:15 pm
So true, great observation.
February 9, 2015 at 11:08 pm
February 9, 2015 at 12:45 pm
I was entertained.
It was like a long AVGN episode with Mike as AVGN.
I agree with both points of view about this game; it’s both horrible and cool as shit.
February 9, 2015 at 2:44 pm
Is there some sort of problem with that?
February 9, 2015 at 10:16 pm
this has to be the most frustrating comment I have ever seen.
February 10, 2015 at 6:29 pm
This game is an underated classic. Its not for people who like being spoonfed. If you care enough about it to learn the game you will see it actually really honors the films and has alot of rewards for people who take the time to learn it.
And Mike, stop blaming the controls for you getting hit, its you. I beat this game when I was 10 back in the late eighties. You can certainly do it now if you stop crying.
February 10, 2015 at 6:40 pm
Words can not describe how obnoxious I find Mike to be in this video. James can see the goodness in this game. Mike just wants to whine and nit pick the whole time.
February 10, 2015 at 6:48 pm
I habe to keep commenting as I watch the video. Guys you are making it too hard. Grab Chrissy who is super fast and light the cabins in order. Its soooo easy. You can get the torch in 10 minutes, Just dont make it harder than it is. ALso havent you guys noticed that some counselors are faster than others yet?
February 11, 2015 at 8:12 am
Didn’t you hear him explain the Friday the 13th theme he’s having on the site due to the calendar? He didn’t pick it for fun.
February 9, 2015 at 4:58 am
GET THE KNIFE
February 9, 2015 at 10:29 am
That should be he new T-Shirt slogan. “Get the fuckn’ knife”.
This is like the 5th video where it’s used as advice.
February 9, 2015 at 6:19 am
Friday The 13th for the NES is a little masterpiece of survival horror. The atmosphere is fucking great for a Nintendo game. Running around a camp with six camp counselors hiding, moving around, gathering weapons, strategizing, and trying to protect children (all while Jason is trying to kill you and everyone else). It’s a frantic race to protect everyone and figure out not only how to survive, but how to go on the offensive.
Summer of 2005, I played it until I beat it. The black guy was the only survivor left and I killed Jason by him coming on screen (outside) and continually wailing on him. The game keeps throwing him at you (appearing like a glitch) and you keep hitting him with hopefully the strongest weapon you’ve acquired. i had the scythe.
The game makes total sense and I’m disappointed that James never figured it all out before.
February 9, 2015 at 11:35 pm
February 13, 2015 at 12:16 pm
I agree. Currently, I am playing this game. It’s enjoyable, if you know, what to do, but it’s still hard. I like it. I like the random factor in this game. I restarted the game many times today, and it was somewhat different always. You need to figure out strategies, moving the counselors to the right place, etc… It’s fun, but only for who figured out the things.
And I am not even a fan of the Friday the 13th franchise.
February 9, 2015 at 6:25 am
This game was way ahead of its time. Open world, realtime events, 3D environments, multiple gameplay types. It was made by Atlus, and while obviously frustrating to a kid without a lot of context, the game is actually not bad if you know what’s going on.
February 13, 2015 at 12:26 pm
Exactly. As a child, I couldn’t enjoy it. I was scared and I had no idea, what to do. Now, I am somewhat familiar with the game, and I can enjoy it. It’s difficult, but fun. Not the best game, but it’s special. I highly disagree with those, who say it’s a horrible game.
February 9, 2015 at 6:28 am
With all of the problems this game has, I still think that it does a pretty good job at making the player really feel like they’re being hunted down by Jason at Camp Crystal Lake.
February 9, 2015 at 6:34 am
I dont find the in house navigation confusing, i mean, its the same system as Xybots and its one of the best arcades ever. Once you get it is easy. And the 3D effect is good.
February 9, 2015 at 6:59 am
He returns to a masterpiece
February 9, 2015 at 11:31 pm
yeah i love this game, especially as a kid i really get freeze to death to the jumpscares when jason suddenly appaer
February 9, 2015 at 7:50 am
here’s the best possible explanation to how to beat the game easily
February 9, 2015 at 4:23 pm
That’s a great explanation of the game!
February 10, 2015 at 12:05 am
Really great video. Armed with this knowledge, I bet James and Mike could easily beat this game now.
February 9, 2015 at 8:52 am
On the Commodore 64 when you least expect it you get a full screen picture of a head with a machete in it, accompanied by a blood curdling scream. Scared the piss out of me as a child and probably still would today!
There’s a game being released this year based on Friday 13th called Summer Camp. Tom Savini is a Producer, Kane Hodder is doing motion capture and Harry Manfredini is doing the musical score.
February 9, 2015 at 9:46 am
Yeah, I hope Summer Camp doesn’t suck… murdering teens as “Jason” could be so much fun.
February 9, 2015 at 9:13 am
I don’t think the creators messed up with the “torch” thing. I’ve heard people refer to lighters as “torches” before.
February 9, 2015 at 11:20 am
There are 3 things in the game. Torches / Lighters/ Flashlights. You light the fireplaces with the LIGHTER. (Not the torch.) The game is wrong.
February 9, 2015 at 4:52 pm
Well, some people (e.g. the British) also call flashlights “torches.” Of course, all of that is irrelevant, though, and doesn’t mitigate the fact that they still messed up the hint, despite all three items being in the game and clearly different.
Even in the instruction manual for the game, it clearly says to use the lighter, not the torch, to light the fireplaces, so yes, they did indeed mess up, just as James said.
February 9, 2015 at 9:22 am
This video is great. It’s frustrating but also fun to watch. What a pain in the ass game.
February 9, 2015 at 9:53 am
Ahh, once again, James And Mike show their ignorance towards the Commodore 64. Something they clearly do not have much knowledge about… other than that, a good video…
February 9, 2015 at 11:21 am
What does that have to do with the Commodore 64 not working? I tried that game. It wouldn’t load.
February 11, 2015 at 1:11 pm
That’s too bad, because it’s a very fun, twisted little mess of a game.
Since it’s on tape it should be really easy to load. Rewind it all the way, then type LOAD and hit return.
The C64 should say PRESS PLAY ON TAPE.
Hit play, wait a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time, and eventually the game should start. If it gets to the end of the tape and never gets done loading then it’s definitely no good.
February 11, 2015 at 1:12 pm
Actually the game probable wont start on its’ own. The C64 will probably say LOADING then READY with a flashing curson when its’ done. Then you type RUN and hit return.
February 10, 2015 at 12:19 pm
To be fair though, C64 can be a bitch to handle and James and mike are more into consoles…Still id love to see some more C64 aswell. Its the most interesting retrosystem out there no doubt whatsoever
February 9, 2015 at 10:27 am
This game actually seems pretty cool, if a bit cryptic and unpolished. I’d love it if you played the C64 version, I heard it’s very good.
February 9, 2015 at 10:34 am
I personally thought that the way they did the ending was very effective. If I remember correctly that creepy peaceful movie starts again after she says “Then he´s still out there”. Hearing that music again really makes you anxious that Jason is coming for you now.
February 9, 2015 at 10:41 am
You gotta get that c64 friday the 13th game to work! C64 is THE KING OF ALL SYSTEMS! Thats what REAL retrogaming men are into not this NES wimpy pussy shit!
Funny you should mention Mrs. Voorhees’ head in Part 2. It originally was filmed with her opening her eyes just before the end, but was rejected as being too “gimmicky”.
February 9, 2015 at 12:48 pm
great vid guys, I’m wondering what is the cure option in the cabins?
February 9, 2015 at 3:22 pm
You can use the potions you collect to cure other counselors (or at least help raise their health). The change option allows to to switch counselors. The pass option allows you to trade weapons. So you could go around collecting torches and equiping the other counselors with them. Just keep lighting the fireplaces. I love this game haha!
February 9, 2015 at 1:16 pm
You can kill Jason on the trails. When he gets low on health he will fight you to the death and this is why he did not run away.
February 9, 2015 at 2:51 pm
I rented this game at least 3 times as a kid and I have 3 major memories of it: 1) My friend and I would freak out and yell at screen every time Jason would appear… “Noooo… oh noooo … ahhh… get him, get him!!!” 2) We had no idea how the hell to play the game 3) I once saw a friend find Jason’s mom and thought it was the most amazing game secret ever. Had a lot of fun watching this one, guys. Thanks!
February 9, 2015 at 3:12 pm
I have to admit I love this game. But I wouldn’t have known what to do without consulting one of those old Nintendo game secrets books at my old Waldenbooks. Best strategy for me is to have the fast characters (Mark and Crissy) go around an light all the fireplaces. Then when you get the torch, go into the houses with the other counselors and pass it to them. Then start over and get more torches. Or at least machetes or axes. You may not be able to equip everyone, but at least you have a better chance. Sure, Jason’s appearances are always an X factor that interrupt what you’re doing but that’s what I always thought made this game challenging.
February 9, 2015 at 10:51 pm
Yes indeed. Each of the counselors have different attributes giving them different strengths and weaknesses such as being able to run faster than others or row the boat faster than others.
The advice you gave is very good, but you also want to plant a counselor with a decent weapon and hopefully some health jars (try to get him a torch, axe, or machete from one of the runners) nearby the lake house to go take care of Jason when he goes after the kids so your runners (Mark and Crissy) can be free to light fireplaces, get the sweater, or whatever.
February 9, 2015 at 3:19 pm
Yes finally after 20 some years there making a mulitplayer friday the 13th game on playstation 4 and xbox one this year.
February 9, 2015 at 3:50 pm
I used to play this as a kid and it has a lot of nostalgia for me, even though it does kinda suck.
I believe the items are triggered to appear when you jump.
February 9, 2015 at 3:57 pm
So, what were you talking about regarding Jaws? Mike interrupted you like six times in a row until you finally gave up and dropped it. 🙂
February 9, 2015 at 4:11 pm
I agree with Mike – the concept of this game seems really cool, especially for its era. But I guess it was just executed poorly.
February 9, 2015 at 4:15 pm
What is up with posting comments on here? About 3/4 of them just disappear after hitting post.
February 9, 2015 at 5:28 pm
This is the only vid where James is talking more than Mike . Mike was even tired of him talking .
February 9, 2015 at 11:50 pm
Haha yea. He straight up cut him off when he was rambling about the movie reviews, which made sense because at that point he’d totally stopped playing the game just to talk.
February 9, 2015 at 6:16 pm
There needs to be a porno called Jason XXX.
March 6, 2015 at 5:18 pm
There actually is a Friday the 13th themed porn movie out there. We’re doomed.
February 9, 2015 at 8:45 pm
Sorry Mike, I’ve got to disagree with you. The clockwise/counter clockwise movement of the game on a circular map makes perfect sense.
Since the game uses a continuous screen and not jointly attached screens, it is only possible with this type of movement.
February 9, 2015 at 10:17 pm
this is my all time favorite James & Mike episode. Something about this one was really cool
February 9, 2015 at 11:23 pm
you know what?? I BEAT IT!!!! if you know the jasons paterns and you have the trident or the torch is piece of cake
February 10, 2015 at 1:58 am
A few pointers, guys. Once a character has a lighter, you can make items appear by randomly jumping around. You don’t have to move when fighting Jason in a cabin, you can stand still and kill him as long as you dodge. The reason Jason wouldn’t go away on the path is you must have had his life down enough to go into the final battle, meaning he wont go away until you kill him or he kills you. If you kill Jason’s mother once per day, (a new days starts each time you drain all of Jason’s health) you get a machete, a sweater, and a pitchfork. The pitchfork hurts Jason the most (even more than the torch). The sweater will make Jason not attack you as often on the path, and you also wont take as much damage from him if you are wearing it. Jason is stronger and faster each time you beat him, but once you beat him the 3rd time, the game is over.
February 10, 2015 at 1:52 pm
If you fight Jason’s mom on day 1 with a machete, you’ll get an axe. Pitchfork does the same damage to Jason as the torch does (1 point per hit). Sweater doesn’t affect how often you find him on the path, either. Jason does the same damage to you on each day, and he only has two speeds (day 1 and 3). Only difference with day 2 is in the indoor fights he’ll switch randomly between fast and slow.
February 10, 2015 at 4:14 am
Hey James, I remember beating this game as a kid and I think I remember a useful trick. Once you get a very good weapon (torch or machete), you can trade it with the another councillor (who have full health). You can see which cabins the differnt councilors are in during the character select screen. Repeat the process when the councillor your controlling gets low on health.
February 10, 2015 at 12:36 pm
“ITEMS ONLY APPEAR IF YOU ARE JUMPING AROUND”
All you needed to do was look up that one simple thing and you boys would have had the game beat.
February 10, 2015 at 2:05 pm
I don’t know if anyone else has posted this yet but someone put up a complete strat guide to this game. It is pretty amazing and worth the read.
February 10, 2015 at 2:09 pm
Speaking of not being able to see Friday the 13th. Did you know that in Finland the movie (and some others too) was rated KK which means they are totally forbidden to broadcast in Finland (or even sell it). Eventually the rating system was changed (a lot!) and in 1999 or so the KK rating was limited to a films that are actually illegal (like videotaping real violence etc.) so the Friday the 13th movies were legal to play on TV. That is probably the time that I also saw the movies as it was basically impossible to see before. There were other movies also that were totally banned for no real reason. Movies like Braindead and the Romero’s Zombie movies.
February 10, 2015 at 2:30 pm
I was born on Friday the thirteenth. It either gives me immunity to the dark powers of the number thirteen, or I have a cursed soul.
February 10, 2015 at 4:34 pm
Great James & Mike Monday, glad you revisited this game!
Have you tried running the Commadore64 tape on Sinclair Spectrum ZX instead? I’ve heard the two systems are very similar in how they run cassettes. With the number of consoles you have, I’d be surprised if you don’t have one.
A quick note on the Spectrum ZX: a common problem occurred with the corner of the tape deck sticking up slightly, which inexplicitly caused the games to fail to load (the happened on mine constantly). Holding the tape deck down while loading fixed this, maybe the Commadore64 suffers from a similar problem?
February 10, 2015 at 5:19 pm
Not sure what it was about this James & Mike Mondays episode, but I found it to be really good.
February 10, 2015 at 6:26 pm
I’m 10 minutes in and had to pause it to comment out of frustration. Its not the game Mike, its you. Quit whining. I was able to beat this game when I was 10 years old back in the late 80s. You just complain too easy and dont care enough to actually learn what the hell you are doing. This is a game that you have to care enough about to realize how good it actually is. Finding Jasons mothers head and killing it for the sweater, getting the fireplaces lit. Its an awesome game that holds true to the Friday films. You just have to not be a whiney little girl and actually learn how to do it.
Also stop blaming the controls for you getting hit by Jason, its easy to dodge him.
February 10, 2015 at 6:59 pm
Ok finished the video. Going forward James you should not always have Mike in these Monday videos. Sometimes he can be really annoying.
BTW, this is a great game regardless of what the spoonfed braindead crowd thinks.
February 10, 2015 at 10:02 pm
February 11, 2015 at 12:50 am
James did you pay 7.95 for that hunk a junk?
February 11, 2015 at 6:29 am
I definitely recommend getting your hands on a working copy of the C64 game. It’d work great for a Halloween AVGN episode… especially since this the game has very little, if anything, to do with the films. Closest you could argue would be a connection to Jason Goes to Hell, but it predates that film by several years.
February 11, 2015 at 9:02 am
A couple things.
When Jason is attacking a counselor that isn’t you, you can go into one of the short/small cabins and switch to the counselor he is attacking and fight him. (When you get into the cabin you press select I believe)
Chrissy and Mark you should use to run around. They have the best speed and jump. They are great for fighting Jason on the road. They also row the best.
Paul and Laura are Average characters. Their rowing sucks
Put debbie near the lake and give her a decent weapon because she is the fastest rower. But everything else sucks
George sucks all around.
February 11, 2015 at 5:56 pm
This guy gets it.
Friday the 13th is a great game that is WAY ahead of its time. Jason fans like myself were into the movies enough to want to learn this epic game.
Others, like Mike, just cry about how bad and hard it is.
February 11, 2015 at 10:15 am
“Gummibear juice” XD .. man I love these references to things from when I grew up 😀 …
About the navigation system. The reason why you move in reverse on the map when you are north of (for instance) the lake, is because you always see the lake in the background on the action screen when you are in the vicinity of it, the camera is effectively moving around with you, always filming you from land out towards the water, and then when you are IN the boat, the camera switches so you have the shore in the background.. At 20:06, when you see paths going into the woods, the map clearly shows that there are only paths going south, not north (which would be out from the map) Always keep in mind where the camera is. Not very practical though, i agree. ^^ But that’s the reason anyways 🙂
Even when I was younger, I actually did not hate this game. Or rather, I liked it for what it tried to be if not always for what it was. Jason really did attack randomly and until you were really good at fighting him, there was a good chance you or one of the other counselors was dead if you went head on with him. Not a mean feat to get real tension in an NES game, but it did at times. The game still needed a boatload of polish and balance fixes, but overall I still consider it a good game memory rather than bad.
February 11, 2015 at 11:44 pm
I think reading the manual before playing the game would have helped.
February 12, 2015 at 12:10 am
The losers always whine about their best. The winners go home and FUCK the Prom Queen!
February 12, 2015 at 3:12 pm
I didn’t grow up with NES (born in 1991) but later on, I got access to a real NES. This was one of the games that I played old fashioned style. I didn’t look at any walkthrough’s, I didn’t use game genie, I did it legit. And I discovered everything to do. Yes I know it’s flawed but I still love the hell out of this game. I understand their frustration but I still love it.
February 12, 2015 at 3:13 pm
One more thing:
This game is a perfect representation of the movies; really flawed but really fun.
February 12, 2015 at 9:51 pm
It’s nice to see this played again. When the Jason Alarm is on you can just go into any small size cabin thats empty , press start, and switch to any counselor you want. You can do this is any small cabin whenever you want. Just switch to the one who’s already in the house with jason. thats why you should constantly switch so your whole team has a decent weapon when needed.
February 12, 2015 at 9:58 pm
Their game seems laggy for some reason. You’re suppose to go to the woods right away and collect a ton of medicines. You need to do that if you want to finish the game. DO NOT go into the woods after dark.
February 13, 2015 at 1:51 am
I could never beat this as a kid! Till I found a walk through as such it’s not that hard actually
February 13, 2015 at 11:35 am
Here is how you beat the game.
February 13, 2015 at 10:30 pm
I remember seeing this game being played when I was really young, and I wanted it, but other games were more interesting. After watching this vid, and the AVGN vid, I realize… I’m glad I didn’t.
After all, it seems really tough to run back and forth, doing all of those things, and having to face Jason. What a pain in the butt! I agree with both James and Mike… the concept is interesting, but the execution is flawed. Especially with the camera issues. So annoying!
February 13, 2015 at 11:14 pm
I have watched my brother finish this game many times. I actually like the game, yet it is certainly difficult. I’m surprised you guys didn’t know to switch counsellors (by highlighting the cabins they are in) to get closer to save the children! Anyway, this is a fun game despite it’s flaws.
February 14, 2015 at 3:27 pm
DO UNINVITED NEXT!!!
February 16, 2015 at 6:45 am
This video feels to me like it has to be an exercise in trolling… I really don’t see how anyone who’s played the system as often as you two have could suck so hard at ANY NES game. 🙂 Equal parts entertaining and infuriating to watch. Nothing on Earth could be as hard as you guys make this game look! Cool to see this game get some attention though (saying love would clearly be a stretch).
February 16, 2015 at 10:36 am
As a a huge fan of the F13th franchise, I do love this game. It’s a bitch to beat and give those who beat it without the aid of Game Genie a shit load of credit! I couldn’t do it without it. Jason comes back 3 fucking times before you FINALLY beat the game. He comes back faster and stronger each time too! One these days I’ll give it a whirl without Game Genie though. Great vid guys!
February 17, 2015 at 1:28 pm
You’re making it way too difficult. Use Mark. Forget the key, cave, and woods. Get the knife and lighter and make your mission to light every fireplace in the big houses. Once that’s done there’s a torch in a big house by the lake. Get it, collect medicine to heal when inside a cabin by selecting Use, and kick his ass.
February 17, 2015 at 1:29 pm
You can seriously beat him the 3 or 4 times required in about 20 minutes, if not less.
February 20, 2015 at 8:47 pm
Hey dudes, if you jump instead of killing the zombies you find more items in the air. you could of saved more time trying to find the key. and had a chance? next time? love this game, play it every Halloween night. Rawwwww Slipknot.
February 20, 2015 at 8:49 pm
February 26, 2015 at 2:34 pm
Dam at least you gave it your best shot
March 12, 2015 at 1:26 pm
This game inverts the game design ideal of “easy to learn, hard to master” and makes it “hard to learn, easy to master”. Also: I showed this vid for a friend last night and they was cringing at how bad you guys were so I paused at ~29 minutes and played the game for her; yes, James, I finished it in about 10 minutes.
April 6, 2015 at 1:12 am
I managed to take down Jason once, the machete did really good damage to him. However, he simply came back to terrorize the camp again! I think you have to take him out two or three times.
April 26, 2015 at 10:57 am
Wow its as if you guys just completely refuse to believe that GameFAQS.com and there in depth walkthroughs even exist. As ifthe game is some kind of ancient mystery that never truly got solved.
July 26, 2015 at 5:58 pm
That’s awesome. Great episode. I remember seeing the cover of axe jason on the game as a kid in 1988 and thought it was eerie. You can trade weapons to other counselors too
September 15, 2015 at 9:53 am
necor comment. I love this game, sorry… remeber Mark jumps HIGHER!
October 4, 2015 at 9:01 pm
When you fight Jason in the cabins, try staying still in the middle of the screen so you have more time to dodge his attacks when he is coming from the side of the screen.
October 17, 2015 at 4:45 pm
I literally just did a speed run of this game, took about 15mins (ON THE ACTUAL CARTRIDGE ) its a very hard game to understand and actually beat but when you figure out the mechanics of it, it gets easier. Id love to show you guys but i don’t have the proper equipment to record, james and mike you guys should definitely revisit this one (again) and try to beat it, not a very good ending but a very satisfying feeling when its all over
November 9, 2015 at 7:07 am
This is my favorite episode of “James and Mike Mondays.” I know the game isn’t great, but for me, it’s more of a nostalgia thing. I used to play this endlessly when I was a kid and loved it. Still have the cartridge (yeah, I admit it!) Didn’t beat it until I was an adult, though; had to use a game genie (yeah, I admit that, too!).
October 20, 2017 at 4:09 am
I’d say your best bet for this game is to check the walkthroughs on youtube. Especially the speed run ones and the one by Lord Kayoss. They give a great breakdown of how to arm your counselors and defeat Jason easily. Gamefaqs also has a map with the two different paths Jason takes so that you can fight him on the path instead of in cabins, where he doesn’t cause you as much damage. If you have a good weapon like the torch and you find Jason on the path, you can just go in the same direction he went and often keep catching up to him to damage him more quickly with the torch. You can also use the now famous “quick torch method” to save yourself time as well. The hardest thing for me to get the hang of was being able to dodge Jason on the third day and getting used to having to kill him 3 times and not just once. I still took a good deal of damage by then but managed to beat it with my last counselor I had left.
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