Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (N64) Part 4

Mike Matei / January 26th, 2015

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  • Michael Shepard

    January 26, 2015 at 2:23 am

    Best part of Monday’s right here! Keep them coming!

    • Michael Shepard

      January 26, 2015 at 2:24 am

      *Mondays. Damn autocorrect.

    • January 26, 2015 at 8:01 am

      Boy: Yo! Crush ’em like a walnut.
      Boy: And sprinkle him on a salad.
      Both: And pour some dressing on the boy!

      http://nintendosecrets.com

      • goodpenisbadpenis

        January 27, 2015 at 12:06 pm

        you’re his new baby he made in the toilet. haha and marissa yer site is shit. I didnt look at it. but from what you typed up there I’m sure it a steaming pile of semi liquid, dog shit.

    • The Kaleidoscopic God

      January 26, 2015 at 10:35 am

      What I like about this autocorrect fail is that it still works. You could have been saying “Best part of Monday is right here!”, which makes sense.

      • Michael Shepard

        January 26, 2015 at 4:27 pm

        True. It was 2 a.m. though. Far past the time for my proper train of thinking.

    • chris jackso

      January 27, 2015 at 7:30 pm

      PACK ANOTHER BOWL!

  • January 26, 2015 at 2:30 am

    Jones!!!!!! This game is the shit

  • DavySprocket

    January 26, 2015 at 2:32 am

    Love these videos. Keep up the good work, guys!

  • Rennie Page

    January 26, 2015 at 2:52 am

    Nice stuff! The videos are awesome. In all seriousness you guys should play Out of this World for the SNES and do a review on it. The game is weird as shit but gets your heart pumping. I think it’d be a great let’s play!

    • ToadRoad

      January 26, 2015 at 5:10 am

      That’d be interesting. One of the better examples of trial and error from my childhood.

  • c o l t

    January 26, 2015 at 3:03 am

    Should do more N64 games.

  • anticlimatic

    January 26, 2015 at 3:22 am

    You guys taking a couple months off then?

  • c o l t

    January 26, 2015 at 3:59 am

    Sorry James. No one wants the Jabba scene in Episode IV. It was good that scene was cut from the movie to begin with as it was pointless anyways.

    • Andrew Wood

      January 26, 2015 at 4:07 am

      Exactly, the dialogue just repeated what Greedo had already said (mostly), and it totally ruined the mystery of who Jabba was.

    • Andrew Wood

      January 26, 2015 at 4:11 am

      In my opinion, though, some of the changes to the movies were good and even necessary. For example, the scene with Palpatine’s hologram in Episode V. The original was a different actor, with a very boring voice that sounded nothing at all like the Emperor in Episode VI (and Palpatine in the prequels). I also prefer to watch Episodes V and VI remastered because the originals are too dark and muddy, which especially ruins the Jabba’s palace scenes (too hard to see the set, aliens, etc.).

      • goodpenisbadpenis

        January 27, 2015 at 12:10 pm

        No, the original Palpatine holo is better. You are wrong.

      • Andrew Wood

        January 27, 2015 at 5:27 pm

        Didn’t know opinions could be wrong. Why do you think the original is better?

  • laser

    January 26, 2015 at 4:30 am

    Nice playthrough. I never beat the game, myself – most of the levels, I would find an impassible roadblock 2/3rds of the way through.

    Fun fact – if you collect all the challenge points, you unlock a map! I’d call that the most pointless unlock in video game history, since getting all the challenge points means exploring every nook & cranny of every level! Pure sadism on the part of the developers…

    Also, the “nova blast” is called a “praxis ring”, after its appearance in Star Trek VI.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praxis_effect

  • Kent Gissing

    January 26, 2015 at 5:20 am

    I have another problem with the “nova blast” that has always been bugging me. Logically, according to all laws of physics, such a shockwave should be in the shape of a sphere.
    A shockwave from a planet’s explosion should expand into all directions as a planet is spherical, not disc-shaped.

    • fanboyfilms

      January 26, 2015 at 8:43 pm

      That’s always been my problem with it, because it’s not how it would really happen in an environment without gravity. They got it right in Star Trek Generations ironically (one of the few things the movie got right). Also ironic if you want an old making of video on Star Wars special effects they will show you that they filmed the explosions from directly above or below the explosion because if they filmed it from the side the gravity would be obvious and they wanted it to look zero-G, which the special edition saw fit to discard and replace with Hollywood tomfoolery.

      The proposed explanation for the ring is that the planet or moon is spinning and therefore the explosion also comes off spinning in a ring shape which might hold true for Praxis in Star Trek VI but clearly the Death Star is not spinning so it’s not a good explanation.

  • avgnfanfckballs

    January 26, 2015 at 5:50 am

    my dad has the original movies on Laserdisc and i dont think any of them are altered in any way. Laserdisc FTW!!!

  • Alexander Nystedt

    January 26, 2015 at 6:26 am

    Make a video on Golden eye or Conkers bad fur day pls πŸ™‚

  • Don Skiver

    January 26, 2015 at 6:27 am

    Jesus. You guys finally figured it out. It’s not a race. You’re supposed to destroy the bikers. Thank god you guys finally did it. Ready to see the rest of the game now.

    • Don Skiver

      January 26, 2015 at 6:46 am

      I can’t fucking believe it. You guys actually beat it. I’m just kinda sad it took nearly a month for us to see this.

  • Lucas Mann

    January 26, 2015 at 7:24 am

    I’m still mad you guys never found the power ups outside the arena at the boba fett fight

  • Johan Γ–berg

    January 26, 2015 at 8:06 am

    Jedi Knight Jedi Academy has a much better swoop bike stage

  • herbsuperb

    January 26, 2015 at 9:14 am

    Golly. Can’t believe how much trouble you guys had with the Swoop Gang in Level 6. I always thought that part was pretty fun. The only stage I’m not wild about is the Gall Moon Base. Too long. Boring sometimes, and the Boba Fett/Slave 1 battle is pretty tough. The Sewer Level gets a bit long sometimes too. But the skyhook thing makes it all worth it. Great game. Greats vids.

  • January 26, 2015 at 9:23 am

    When I was a kid this was one of my favorite stages actually. If you take the time to knock out the dudes on the bikes it’s okay.

  • January 26, 2015 at 9:36 am

    Great video. Who needs Road Rash when you have the Swoop Bike Stage?

  • Satnav

    January 26, 2015 at 10:54 am

    So…do you guys reckon the game holds up? :p

    The reason they went for a CG Jabba in the ANH special edition is simply because that’s just easier and less time consuming, and as James points out no guarantee trying to insert a physical one wouldn’t look shitty anyway. As you said TESB has the least noticeable changes, since it’s almost a perfect film already, and what changes there are actually make sense, like changing the Emperor from some terribly made-up woman to actually looking like how he did in ROTJ. I don’t mind smaller changes like that, including the Death Star blast.

  • taykel

    January 26, 2015 at 11:54 am

    How could they bring Darth Vader back when he died in Return of the Jedi? Maybe they are going to bring him back from the dead or something. Yea. I agree with James on this. A flashback would be a good idea. We’re all going have to wait and see.

    • Satnav

      January 26, 2015 at 1:32 pm

      The rumor could also just be false. It may come from a piece of concept art that shows Vader, but they clarified he was just a placeholder as they hadn’t decided on the look of the actual villain.

  • January 26, 2015 at 12:21 pm

    Speaking of doom, why dont you guys play doom or doom 2? im playing through doom 2 right now and it is fucking crazy.

  • January 26, 2015 at 1:03 pm

    NOT MY STORAGE LOCKER! NOOOOOO!

    Not my princess collection of old vcr’s!

    Not all those old tv commercals taped on Betamax!Those where grandfathers!

    not my extra tails costume for furry-con!

    not my 30 copies of billy Joel’s glass houses.

    not the classic playmobiles,Most of those still have the boxes! NOOO!

    fuck you RENDAR! stop blasting my treasures.

    Not The 72′ mercury montego rear seat! those are hard to find!

  • Leeleeleeleelee

    January 26, 2015 at 1:13 pm

    @4:28 No James… Just no…

  • Trevor Bailey

    January 26, 2015 at 1:33 pm

    I am yelling at my iPad “it’s NOT a racing level! You just need to kill the riders!”

    • ToadRoad

      January 26, 2015 at 7:58 pm

      Maybe somewhere someone is watching you watching your ipad and yelling: “They can’t hear you.”

  • January 26, 2015 at 1:43 pm

    Great video!

  • BADam

    January 26, 2015 at 2:34 pm

    The CG Jabba scene was cut out and the when put back in, never notice how the dialogue is just repeated from the Greedo scene? It had been substituted.
    Also some of the good things they put in with CG are subtle like tidying up the starfighter/snowspeeder scenes.. side by side with the originals you can appreciate the difference

  • Phoenix7786

    January 26, 2015 at 2:47 pm

    Nothing personal Mike, but the robot DOES say “stop the gang before they reach Luke”. Although, to be fair, he should say “destroy”.

    And if you do Out of This World, stick to the Sega Genesis port. For reason the SNES version actually runs SLOWER, and has to LOAD.

    • goodpenisbadpenis

      January 27, 2015 at 12:13 pm

      Thats because, sing it with me, Genesis does.

  • January 26, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    I’d really like to see you guys do Clash at Demonhead for the NES. I’ve always thought it was a hidden gem.

  • Pablo1989

    January 26, 2015 at 3:41 pm

    Finally WELL DONE! πŸ˜€ How about Super Mario 64….just kidding :P.

  • tron

    January 26, 2015 at 6:00 pm

    go back to doing avgn!!!

  • January 26, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    I know I’m in the minority here, but could you do some scripted work for awhile, James? I find these videos boring. It’s like I’m watching home videos of you and Mike playing games, acting like fools (which I know we all can be when we’re playing video games so don’t take offense to that), and making bad jokes. And to be honest, did this play of Star Wars really need to be four parts? Please, I ask you kindly, do some scripted stuff. Get back to Board James, do some AVGN, make some Bullshit videos, or come up with something all new that we haven’t seen before. Anything but these unscripted game plays. They’re simply not fun to watch anymore.

  • January 26, 2015 at 7:36 pm

    Back in the day, my friend beat the game so I got to enjoy the fruits of his toil. We would play Hoth or the Space Station over and over again because he refused to revisit the swoopbike or dianoga levels. Actually, we had more fun dogfighting in space than anything. You guys were lucky to see the Milenium Falcon so much; we tried and tried to destroy it but could only ding it once or twice. “It really is the fastest ship in the galaxy,” we’d conclude before reinacting it all Outside.

  • January 26, 2015 at 8:46 pm

    Technically “Detonation Wave” is the word you guys were looking for to describe the Death Star explosion. It’s like a shock wave made of fire.

  • Jcr3ws

    January 26, 2015 at 10:37 pm

    I truly think Out Of This World on genesis or Heart of Darkness on PS1 should get a playthrough. Those games are great games but patience is much needed more than game skills.

  • January 27, 2015 at 3:59 am

    Huh. I admit, it’s been a very long time since I last played this game, and I’m pretty sure I played it on easy mode back then, but I don’t remember the swoop bike stage as being anywhere that bad. I have memories of beating it handily.

    I’ll have to play this game again on medium difficulty and see if the difference is really that significant.

  • Filip Danmyr

    January 27, 2015 at 10:10 am

    I just have to get this off my chest, this part is not as hard as they make it look like, sad to say but they are great entertainers but bad gamers

  • January 27, 2015 at 5:04 pm

    Again, it was really hard to watch the Swoop bike level. You have to kill. Them! Lol! And depending on the level, you can almost get all of them in the town. too funny. Either way, glad you actually got past the level. And dude, props on beating this game! I forgot about a couple of the levels. Not surprised how difficult it was, but mad props and pushing through and beating the thing! πŸ™‚

  • greedo

    January 27, 2015 at 6:25 pm

    Still SMH’ing at how you guys thought it was a race. The whole point of the level was to stop the Swoop Gang before they killed Luke! L3B0 even says so in the beginning. That’s why they had that the bar at the top, to let you know the progress of the Swoop Gang, and how many of them were left. The PC version of this game makes it clear. When you clear this level you get this cut scene (7:15):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlfa80cHy48

    Anyway, it was nice to see you guys finally get out of that level. That one broke the game for me. The other ones are okay, but it was a huge letdown. The game could have used a bit more work. A few more levels, and tweaking of a couple. Not a bad game, but not a great one, either.

    As for the Jabba scene in the original Star Wars movie, apparently George wanted to use a stop motion puppet for that scene, but he didn’t have enough money in the budget(or time, for that matter), so he scrubbed. Now you know! πŸ™‚

  • Ben_from_G-town

    January 27, 2015 at 7:59 pm

    Niiiice. You finally beat the swoop bike stage, and the entire game! That was intense, and fun! I think this series has been some of my favorite videos you’ve done. I wish you would’ve shown the ending, though!

  • Pago

    January 27, 2015 at 10:07 pm

    I loved this game as a kid, but the controls were terrible. I wouldn’t mind seeing it remade at some point with real targeting and finer control over the character movement.

  • the-an00bis

    January 28, 2015 at 1:40 am

    this was so much easier on PC, not just the “bike” part but the whole game… the fight with that AT St took me like 2 minutes and the bike part was done after 3 tries or something…
    seems to me like the game is not designed to play with a controller…

  • FriskyArts

    January 28, 2015 at 2:45 am

    It’s too fucking painful to watch you guys fail at SotE. You guys should just stick to oldschool, or at least read some FAQs before calling a game shitty because you’re incapable. Play Mos Eisley as if you were playing as Luke in RoJ, ramming bikes into trees.

  • January 28, 2015 at 7:38 am

    the swoop stage doesn’t have good controls, but you also did a terrible job xD. i don’t remember it being that hard on the pc version but well you gotta take the time to brake and turn. there are good things in the game, but i’d say overall it’s rather average.

  • John Bigger

    January 28, 2015 at 5:57 pm

    Hi, do you still go to digital press videogames

  • Vulture Lives

    January 28, 2015 at 6:37 pm

    The Jabba scene in the Special Edition of A New Hope isn’t at all important to the plot. Jabba basically repeats everything that Greedo just said in the previous scene. It’s redundant. The CGI on Jabba is absolutely horrid, and it looks unbelievably bad when Han steps on Jabba’s tail.

    The scene also needlessly kills the mystery and intrigue surrounding Jabba. I preferred it when Jabba’s appearance wasn’t revealed until Return of the Jedi.

    I’m skeptical that the Jabba scene wasn’t included in the original Star Wars due to special effects limitations. If you look at behind the scenes pictures from when they were filming that scene, the actor playing Jabba is wearing a costume. Why would they bother putting him in a Star Wars-ish costume if he was just a placeholder for special effects to be added later?

    • greedo

      January 28, 2015 at 6:44 pm

      Dude, it’s honestly the truth. If you don’t believe me, go online and read the script yourself. They also mentioned it in a couple of documentaries on the subject, as well. I think they have a clip or two, online, somewhere.

      • greedo

        January 28, 2015 at 6:45 pm

        That is, they have a couple of excerpts explaining why the scene was excluded. That actor was indeed a placeholder.

      • Vulture Lives

        January 28, 2015 at 6:51 pm

        You misunderstand me. I know that the scene was filmed during the making of the original Star Wars. I’m skeptical that the scene wasn’t included due to budget/technological limitations. The actor on set was wearing a costume. The suggesting being that Jabba was initially meant to be a human being, not a giant slug with arms. But, the scene got cut for whatever reason. Maybe because the dialogue is completely redundant. Even Han basically repeats himself from the previous scene.

      • Andrew Wood

        January 29, 2015 at 3:48 am

        If this helps at all, I believe Jabba was originally intended to be a large, furry creature a bit similar to Chewbacca. The Episode IV novelization, which came out a year before the film, describes Jabba the Hut (one t) as “a great mobile tub of muscle and suet topped by a shaggy scarred skull.” Also, from Wookieepedia: “Lucas intended for him to be a furry, Chewbacca-esque character, and had actor Declan Mulholland play the role wearing a shaggy coat. Mulholland would have been replaced with a stop-motion creature during post-production had the scene not ended up on the cutting room floor.[30] The scene did appear in the film’s novelization and comic adaptation, however, both using the “Hut” spelling of the screenplay.”

  • Vulture Lives

    January 28, 2015 at 6:53 pm

    Okay. Why was he wearing a costume if he was just a placeholder?

    • m w

      January 28, 2015 at 9:04 pm

      Totally, and I heard they’re soon coming out with a newer new edition of ANH wherein Jabba is changed from the “new edition” cg version into a superimposed version of the “placeholder” wearing the costume from the behind the scenes shots. Also in the soon to be released newer new edition of ROTJ they will replace Jabba entirely with edited shots from that same actor with the costume on from ANH. It’s gonna all look like shit but at least it’ll be true to the apparent original thought process of Lucas which was surely that Jabba was all along suppose to be a non slug human guy but also at the same time wearing a weird looking costume.

      Or perhaps they didn’t have the technical abilities at the time.

    • greedo

      January 28, 2015 at 11:39 pm

      I get where you’re coming from now. To be honest, I haven’t a clue. All I know is what I’ve told you. Having read the final script, though, I can honestly say that George never intended Jabba to be a man.

      As for the dialogue, George h

      • greedo

        January 28, 2015 at 11:40 pm

        Disregard that last sentence. I intended to delete it, but I guess I didn’t get rid of all of it.

    • greedo

      January 29, 2015 at 12:41 am

      @Vulture Lives Just found out some additional info for you. Apparently, the character was supposed to be furry, like a Wookiee, which explains why the actor was dressed in a full suit, like he was. George Lucas also felt the scene did nothing to advance the plot, which is why it was originally deleted. Mystery solved!

      • Andrew Wood

        January 29, 2015 at 3:48 am

        Whoops. Just posted this same information above.

      • Vulture Lives

        January 29, 2015 at 11:56 am

        Thanks for the info. That makes sense. The main point of my original post was to point out that the scene is redundant, and, according to your info, it appears that Lucas felt the same way in 1977. Too bad he didn’t have the same good judgement in 1997.

  • January 29, 2015 at 12:09 pm

    Humans are the WORST race in the entire FAR FAR away galaxy..
    That’s why we will ever understand the superiority of JAR JAR BINKS!

  • greedo

    January 29, 2015 at 1:45 pm

    @AndrewWood Whoops, indeed! πŸ™‚ Sorry, guess I must not have noticed. Oh, well, I guess it helps to have more than one source.

    @Vulture Lives You’re welcome for the info.

  • January 29, 2015 at 11:21 pm

    Another excellent James and Mike Mondays! Also the mysterious shoe asteroid is actually in Empire Strikes Back, along with a hidden potato asteroid as well πŸ˜‰

  • January 30, 2015 at 7:46 am

    Epic!

  • Steve Hale

    January 31, 2015 at 3:09 am

    Mike looks just like Steve Buscemi at 13:04.

  • Jeff Madduxx

    February 1, 2015 at 1:59 am

    Long time viewer and supporter, but man, this game and string of videos were boring. Maybe its because I didn’t grow up playing this particular game.

  • February 1, 2015 at 5:40 am

    enough with the shadows of the empire already…
    4 parts? Maybe it’s me having never played N64. (skipped over that one. ahh those magic years where your parents wont buy you stuff anymore but you cant earn enough yourself yet)
    Other people seem to be fine with it..
    the two parter J&M Mondays were fine, but understand that you’re ‘cheating’ some people out of a month of (to them) interesting videos by sticking to a single game.
    And if you have to do it, please stick to nes/snes classics, or mix it up like the turbotunnel video.
    most of this 4 parter is just random topics not even related to the game because you guys even get bored with it.
    Imagine how bored it makes ME then.
    Just my two cents guys, love your stuff, just not a big fan of this one.

  • Vulch

    February 2, 2015 at 7:33 am

    Well, nice work, guys, but you didn’t beat the game. You know, when you beat it on easy, it says “if you want to know if Dash survived the explosion, try to beat the game on more difficult level”. So to know the truth, you gotta beat it on a hard level. At least PC version states that. As for me I didn’t beat it on hard level, but it’s in my plans)

  • Campaigner

    February 3, 2015 at 9:49 pm

    You started on Medium and quickly switched to Easy -_-

    As a teenager I got to Gladiator Droid (9th lvl) on Hard. You two videogamepros should also be able to do it :p

    Atleast Medium though.

  • February 15, 2015 at 8:43 am

    So you two desided to make entire playthroughs after all.

  • Ryan Somethingsuch

    September 28, 2015 at 3:13 am

    I totally did a play through of this game when me and my friend pitched into to rent it. So we had like a week to play it. So we played so long trying to beat this game, at like 8 or 9. So the speeder level was the one my friend refused to do anymore since he tried all night and refused to play anymore. So I woke up after he called my house phone in the morning and spent 12 hours mastering the twist and turns of this piece of shit. omg. . . It’s one of the reasons why I love AVGN so much is because it doesn’t matter how old you were. . . THESE PARTS ARE SHIT!

  • April 3, 2016 at 4:39 am

    Oh come on Shadows of the Empire isn’t that shitty. I felt as a kid it expanded my star wars imagination haha! I totally wouldn’t mind a remake of this game on the new gen consoles with an engine similar to gears of war and metal gear solid V. I think using similar engines to that I mentioned along with reproducing the levels and making them better including the swoop stage haha! it would be an awesome entertaining new gen masterpiece? what do ya think?

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