Lord of the Rings Gamecube Review

James / November 30th, 2012


  • themustardtiger

    November 30, 2012 at 2:58 am

    I’ve played the return of the king game on the cube with my buddy. First off I wanna say if its so hard for you, why not play with a second person, its way more fun and makes it better. Also it is really not as hard as your making it sound with the ladders, once you figure out what to do, its not too bad, the camera angle is a huge problem but the game is still really fun to play with a friend. Also the elephant stage is pretty fucking annoying, me and my buddy got it down to a technique to beat it but it certainly was not impossible. Part of the fun in this game is how hard it is, and if your such a fan of lotr, then you could see that your playing as the main characters which do fight alot of damn orcs in the books. that is all.

  • nebulon900

    November 30, 2012 at 3:06 am

    you mispronounced “legolas”

  • November 30, 2012 at 3:09 am

    Legawlus??? Thats how you pronounced it Mike. Bite your tongue sir bite your fanboy tongue and sit up straight! How dare you insult elf kind! I can only guess you keep the company of dwarves. The Dr. has spoken.

  • November 30, 2012 at 3:15 am

    And further more the PS2 controls suck formaldehyde dipped raccoon balls! Those first two movie based games made me realize how if I ever had to face off with actual orcs I would be vanquished. The Dr. is mad thinking about this.

  • Lennier

    November 30, 2012 at 3:18 am


    When the Witch-King appears, don’t go down to ground level! Stay on either one of the cliffs and just go to his end of the battlefield while at that elevation. It makes shooting him down honestly the easiest part of the level. I’m sorry, but your conclusion to go down to the ground when the Witch-King appears never even occurred to me.

    Anyways… it might surprise you to learn that RotK on the Gamecube is one of my favorite games of all time. I acknowledge a few of the flaws you point out, but I just adore the game overall. I can’t count how many times I’ve beaten it.

  • fcabanski

    November 30, 2012 at 3:18 am

    “The Lord of the Rings trilogy? was three books.” Why does he say it like that. But I agree with the concern. Why is one book three films?

  • Stefanoragnopazzo

    November 30, 2012 at 3:26 am

    LOL You forgot the third game!
    I don’t see part 1 of 2 in the title. And no indication for that at the end so feel free to say i’m wrong but i have reasons to say that.

    Aside from that i totally agree, i remember totally them games, but because they suck so much, i don’t even know what force has brought me to finish them 100%. Probably the ring of power…yeah.

    And i totally agree on the hobbit second trailer, here in Italy it’s even worse they chose dubbers that sucks ass, you must check the italian second trailer, i’m gonna watch it (with some doubts on it) in english.

    • January 1, 2013 at 3:44 am

      I find this review somewhat funny because I played all of those Lord of the Rings games when I was a kid and didn’t have any issues with them. Hell, I even beat Fellowship of the Ring on GBA and that game was a glitchy load of ass. There’s actually a game ending glitch in Fellowship on GBA unless you know how to work around it (it’s in the Mines of Moria). Anyways, in Return I had more trouble with the Ghost King and escaping him than the elephants. I also had gotten Legolas and Gimli to max levels and stats. I would also like you to review The Hobbit game because The Hobbit game was great.

  • Irrediate

    November 30, 2012 at 3:27 am


    “The witch king comes in, riding his NAZGUL” ?
    The dude IS a Nazgul.

    I think you meant fellbeast instead.

    Heh, i guess i wouldnt mind so much if you didn’t go so all out to show us you’re SUCH a huge fan of Tolkien. I’d expect you to know this~!

    Ah well, as for the Hobbit movie… yeah i hope this doesnt turn out to be the next Phantom Menace either…

    But screw that! It’s gonna be awesome!

    • May 21, 2015 at 2:19 pm

      Indeed, the Witch King and the other Black riders are Nazgûls, not their dragons. I cannot believe that Mike made such a sloppy mistake, since he claims to be a Lord of the Rings fan.

  • November 30, 2012 at 3:40 am

    Nice review man. I had the two towers but I remember getting bored with the same hack and slash over and over. I think there was a PS2 game based on the first book rather than the movies that I recall enjoying more but I think I was in the minority on that one. Might be worth checking out but who knows how it holds up.

  • pawseh

    November 30, 2012 at 3:43 am

    The battle of pelenors field is a really easy level and the reason you are doing it wrong is because you are standing underneath the Witch King you can go the far left of the cliff and fire from upstairs instead of going down the cliff when you killed the mumakil.

  • November 30, 2012 at 3:44 am

    Nice one Mike! I never actually tried these, ended up getting Star Wars Bounty Hunter on GC instead and it has a very frustrating stage like that one near the end. I may just suck at the game though but I can’t seem to beat the prison stage.

    I’d love to see what you think of the other LOTR games on GC. I really wanted to get the Hobbit game but never got around to it.

  • Q306005

    November 30, 2012 at 3:48 am

    I hope he does a second part reviewing The Third Age and The Hobbit. I’ve actually played The Third Age, and I didn’t like it very much at first. It’s very odd for me to say too, because I am a serious RPG fanatic, but the gameplay in The Third Age took so much getting used to that I didn’t enjoy or appreciate the experience until many years after it came out and playing it a second time, and even then I only found it slightly entertaining.

  • Eltanin

    November 30, 2012 at 3:52 am

    I have both games for the gamecube and I played them both to death, specially The Return of The King. My advice would be to grind a little bit, I remember that having all the right power ups (go for the multi arrow / piercing upgrade) makes that level a piece of cake.

    Anyhow, nice review Mike keep it up!

  • DoctorColossus

    November 30, 2012 at 3:59 am

    You had to know that games based off of a blockbuster movie are going to suck ass. Wasn’t there a LOTR game on SNES back in the day? I’d be interested to hear how that is.

  • November 30, 2012 at 4:09 am

    These LoTR games remind me of Batman: Dark Tomorrow for its awful camera angles and the way the main characters run. Have you played Batman: DT @Mike? You’ve got to do a video review of it. It’s one of those “so bad it’s good” games.

  • Mithaearon

    November 30, 2012 at 4:11 am


    Going to get ubergeeky here but technically LotR is six books, but they are released in either one large volume or broken down into three volumes.

  • November 30, 2012 at 4:15 am

    The Third Age is pretty good.

  • Skoroc

    November 30, 2012 at 4:20 am

    Hey Mike,
    I really, really love those two games, especially “The Return of the King”, so I was really excited to see this review. I am also concerned about the three “The Hobbit” movies, just like you I hate the slapstick ending of the second trailer. BUT Peter Jackson is one of the best directors in world History, in my opinion, so he will not fail.
    Now to your game review part. I could not disagree more with you about the controls in this game. The combinations of the moves are very easy to learn and easy to remember. Everything I see is you pushing the A Button on the controller, although you can kill the stronger opponent (the ones with the green bar floating over their head) with just one combination. Maybe the controls are much harder on the gamecube, than on the PlayStation2 (I played the GC version twice and the PS2 version like 500 times :D ).

    Nonetheless I liked the review very much and I am looking forward to see more videos of yours.
    (sorry for existing mistakes, my English is not perfect :) )

  • Josh2995

    November 30, 2012 at 4:22 am

    Damn Mike, I think it’s time you take on an angry video game nerd title of your own for these reviews, cuz for a moment there during this review you were truly channeling what it means to be an angry nerd. I played a few of the LOTR games on PS3 and I’m sad to report they were shit. But, back to the subject at hand, this was one of your more entertaining reviews. ” Motherfuckin Games With Motherfucker Mike” has a nice ring to it. Haha. On a side note, my wife was poking fun at my nerdiness just the other day due to my flambouyant rant over the Hobbit being broken up into three films, when the subject matter is about a third of what comprises the LOTR trilogy. Sure hope they don’t fuck it up!

  • Goatrider

    November 30, 2012 at 4:24 am

    Tolkien intended LOTR to be one book as well or a 2-book volume incl Silmarillion at the most. You’re a fan, but don’t know this? This can not be an argument for skepticism over turning The Hobbit into 3 movies. The lack of pages on the other hand, could.

  • smd

    November 30, 2012 at 4:34 am

    Yeah, LOTR was initially supposed to be one book but paper shortages caused it to be split into 3 books.

    Also the Hobbit films aren’t splitting one book into 3 films. The third film is going to be using the Tolkien supplemental materials, so the Hobbit is still really 2 films with the third being basically a supplemental film to tie it into the LOTR series.

    Anyway, thanks for the review. Good timing :)

  • Josh2995

    November 30, 2012 at 4:45 am

    On another side Note this Wiki on Christopher Lee and The LOTR has some interesting facts. http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Sir_Christopher_Lee

  • TheMonkeyWrench

    November 30, 2012 at 5:15 am

    The controls must be better on PS2 because I have to say, I’ve had Return of the King on playstation since it came out and I’ve never had that problem. You also get used to the camera, and not every game has to have the same camera style, look at the original Resident Evils or Project Zero. Zelda doesn’t set every standard for games.

    Also, themustardtiger is right, if you complain about the co-op AI, then get a friend to play it with you. The reason there are more characters following you around is because it was built for co-operative play. Again, not every game has to be single player oriented, like how some nowadays focus moreso on multiplayer. And the catapult stage in Minas Tirith really isn’t that bad, I never found myself hugging tight ledges on castle walls and trapsing up every tower, I don’t even know how you kept getting to all those places.

    For it’s time, Return of the King was highly enjoyable. All I have are fond memories, and when you keep saying “how could they release this?” well, it’s because the game isn’t unbeatable, in fact The Black Gate, one of the last levels, is one of the most enjoyable, again cause you get to hack and slash at enemies. If from the play style you haven’t picked up that it’s a hack and slash game, I would encourage you to widen your horizons of gaming genres. I mean, come on dude, I beat this when I was 12.
    Also, I didn’t notice you mispronounced Legolas. I did notice you kept calling Oliphants “giant elephants” though, something every real LoTR fan should be aware of.

  • mingkey

    November 30, 2012 at 5:22 am

    LOL Nice review,I felt like you when I played this back when it came out.lol i love raging! hahahah good review!!

  • rocky356744

    November 30, 2012 at 6:08 am

    I agree that there are some pretty frustrating moments in both of these games. But to this day, I still believe that these are two of the greatest movie based video games ever made. Most games based on a movie are absolutely terrible. I still play these games. Having a second player on “Return of the King” is so helpful also. You should get James and film a playthrough together.

  • pezoamo

    November 30, 2012 at 6:26 am

    Nice job Mike, I just registered so I could tell you how your comments about Gimli looking like shit had me rolling! hahahahaha

  • November 30, 2012 at 6:29 am

    The PS2 versions of these games must have been a lot better, because I don’t remember being frustrated at all playing them. Of course, I played them co-op with a friend. I definitely don’t remember having any poor control issues. And man, those GC graphics are ugly

  • BloodFalcon

    November 30, 2012 at 7:07 am

    in the mumaky stage i got a few questions….. why didnt you use the lances to faster kil the elefants? did you have the swift of justice combo (A x 5) or warriors and oecs bane? it makes killing realy easy! and why did you have to get down to shoot the wich king when you can kill it from the top? and if you have many problems in the first time you pass the stage why no using legolas hiper charged triple arows? the isue of the controler is your own mine works fine

  • DeathBlow

    November 30, 2012 at 7:07 am

    @ TheMonkeyWrench

    Not every game has to have the same camera style, but the should be as invisible as possible. Having a player compensate for that draws attention away from the game. When games that get this right clearly stand out from others, such as Zelda. The camera style of the original Resident Evils were due to technical limitations, although I do like the effect because it was a horror game.

    Again, co-op AI should be as invisible as possible and should not require the player to compensate. If that stage was built for co-op play, then it was not designed properly for all target audiences.

    As far as Return of the King being highly enjoyable. I’ve never played it, but I’ve played Fellowship of the Ring for the XBOX and that game had a bug in it that prevented me from continuing the game. (I called the distributer and I still couldn’t get a refund.) I have fond memories of the levels in the Shire, but how could they release it like that? Return of the King may not have a bug the prevents the user from continuing, but how long must a player endure before he starts thinking that the game is impossibly hard?

  • Lukas Sprehn

    November 30, 2012 at 7:25 am

    Mike, supposedly the reason for dividing it into three films is because Jackson is not only basing it on the novel, but also on the notes made by Tolkien himself :) (and because of more profit, of course!) There’s other things we should be worried about though, like the 48FPS. Let’s see what that will be like, both in 3D and vice versa. The second trailer made me think more about The Hobbit than the first one though, due to the original trailer’s very dark tone. This new trailer had some more lighthearted visuals, (SPOILERS) like when the dwarves greet Bilbo and visits him to talk to him and Gandalf and have dinner. I also liked the fact that it had a few shots of the scene where the fellowship hides in the trees from the wolves, and Gandalf casts his fire spell. And then there was the scene with the goblins and the fellowship, chasing each other on the mountainside. I liked all that, but I see what you mean about the slapstick ending. I also read that Gandalf will be GIVING the sword Sting to Bilbo. Maybe not even inside the cave. I don’t see any reason for changing the story like that lol. (SPOILERS END) Do you?

    Stay creative,
    - Lukas

  • Chendzeea

    November 30, 2012 at 7:57 am

    :) Great Review Mike.

  • Shazza1990

    November 30, 2012 at 8:19 am

    I hate it when, like you said, the game play is so annoying you don’t want to play it any more… and yet you find yourself pushing forward through the crap just to finish the damn thing. At least that’s what I do ha :|
    Great video Mike :D

  • polterghost

    November 30, 2012 at 8:30 am

    I played Return of the King on PC. I remember it was very good game but ridiculously hard at certain moments. Mission near the end with the stand-off when you had to give Frodo time to get to Mt. Doom was unbeatable.

  • TaMs

    November 30, 2012 at 8:31 am

    I’ve the ps2 version of the return of the king for some weird reason. The game is pretty terrible, but got few laughs out of it while playing co-op.

  • Bkg360

    November 30, 2012 at 8:32 am

    This game was and still is excellent, on xbox that is.

  • darkglobe

    November 30, 2012 at 8:38 am

    Mike, the movie is going to be in three parts because it also incorporates a lot of notes dealing with The Hobbit that Tolkien made about it.

    Also, remember, while the there are three books, there are six parts to the story.

  • Origin

    November 30, 2012 at 8:41 am

    The pc version was brilliant and the ps2 one was fine, you just ignored the blue dot on the wall map where the catapult was (and really, two towers are confusing), the witch king can be hit from the cliffs, not just the ground and all in all this is one of the better film based games.

  • darkglobe

    November 30, 2012 at 8:52 am

    Also, there was a game based on the first film.

  • kidanthony138

    November 30, 2012 at 8:59 am

    good job motherfucker!

  • Razgriz

    November 30, 2012 at 9:10 am

    I played The Two Towers and Return of The King games on the Playstation and i must say that RoTK is one of my favorite games on the PS2. I played it a lot with a friend of mine and we had a lot of fun with this game.

  • neofury

    November 30, 2012 at 9:29 am

    I have it for PS2 based on friends telling me it was better than the other two. The game is wretched, putrid. It isn’t better on PS2. I think some people just are better gamers and have better thresholds for annoying things than we do. It was a turd.

  • m4z

    November 30, 2012 at 10:19 am

    This review gives a very false impression of the games, especially on ‘Return of the king’. Why do you play as Aragorn the whole time? The stage that gave you so much trouble is much easier as Legolas, especially when you unlock the right skills.

    These skills will also help you to survive in the battlefield longer. Blocking hits at the right time, countering attacks and landing combos was so much fun in this game. And if you time it right, your attacks will be charged (that’s right, they charge if you play it right – no offense though), making it even easier to take down the elephants or the witch king. Also, you do NOT have to run directly to the witch king in order to hit him… you can easily shoot him from the cliff where the catapults are.

    The fact that archers are constantly firing at you while you try to take down those elephants requires you to time your shots well if you want to rely on your bow. It’s not easy but I never felt like it was an unfair challenge. And I guess your controller is broken, one of my older controllers also has some problems with its L and R buttons – the game control itself is actually well done.

  • max kanevsky

    November 30, 2012 at 10:39 am

    thank you thank you mike for doing this video its great that you made this review especcialy in the great franchise that is the lord of the rings
    keep on loading these if you can please do harry potter video games review

  • Eagle7D8

    November 30, 2012 at 11:14 am

    Not much of a “review”. It’s more like a Look at or crappy Let’s Play. I loved Return of the King. I didn’t have any of the control issues you had at all. Finally, why show LotR The Third Age at the beginning if it’s not part of the “review”?

  • TheMinimiMax

    November 30, 2012 at 11:32 am

    I used to have The Return of the King on PC… and I never beat the stupid elephant part. I had a hard time with the ghost level too, but not enough to rage quit yet.

  • Paul Dower

    November 30, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    LOL Mike I had the same problem with those levels but after a year or so I beat both games and it was GLORIOUS XD

  • King Rollo

    November 30, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    “Nazgul” refers to the riders themselves, but there are times in both the movies and the books where the word seems to be applied to the flying dragon-like things they ride. It is confusing. It makes more sense that it should refer to the nine ring wraiths. “Nazg” means ring, and I suppose the suffix “-ul” means “them” as in the ring’s inscription, so Nazgul could be “They of the ring”? That’s just a guess, I’ve never studied Tolkien’s languages. Adding to the confusion, I doesn’t seem that Tolkien ever gave a proper name to the dragon-like creatures. Wikipedia has a few words on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazgul#Steeds “fell” is just an adjective, though. He could just as easily have called them “terrible beasts” or some similar thing.

    As for how to pronounce Legolas, I’m guessing Mike read the books before seeing the movies and got attached to how he chose to pronounce it. There’s nothing in the three books to indicate where the emphasis should go. Until the movies, there would be no way to know how Tolkien intended for it to be pronounced, unless you study Sindarin and how many people have the time for that?

    I think there’s sufficient material to easily support three more movies. They probably could have gotten two movies per book from the LotR trilogy if they had chosen to and we can see even from the Hobbit trailers that there’s going to be a lot of material that wasn’t in that book. I’m pretty sure the guy on the sleigh drawn by rabbits is Tom Bombadil. That’s just one example. As for the trailer’s ending, there’s a good deal of humour in the book, I don’t see it as a problem. I have faith that Peter Jackson will produce another masterpiece, in the case of the LotR trilogy, everywhere the movies departed from the books, I preferred the movies’ version. The elves showing up at Helm’s Deep is probably the most notable example.

    I played Return of the King (PS2) when it was new, I though it was pretty good.

  • Clutchkman

    November 30, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    I have the Two Towers game for the GC, and I agree with pretty much everything you said about it, but at the time I was so psyched about the movies I really wanted to like it. There was some fun to be had especially with friends, but it did seemed like it could’ve been a much better game with a little more tweaking and development. Oh yeah, and I didn’t mind you not talking about The Turd Age, who cares. Very entertaining review; keep’em coming!

  • SirSuperSouthern

    November 30, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    Easily Mike’s best review, good work. I particularly agree with everything he said in the beginning about his doubts about The Hobbit movie – spot on…

  • Blue Wizard

    November 30, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    I was trying to figure out why some of the comments were bitter or uptight, and then it dawned on me…they’re all after the one true ring. Give it up guys. Your nerdly laments are no match for the depths of Mount Doom.

    Nice review Mike. It was pretty entertaining, and I enjoyed the Gandalf bits.

  • kassu

    November 30, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    You really should review that hobbit game! I had so much fun with it when i was younger and it’s in my opinion pretty entertaining.

  • Sylveria

    November 30, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Could just learn the combos Mike.. instead of needing the game to constantly tell you how to play it.

  • Sierraman

    November 30, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    Actually, The Lord of the rings was one novel, not three separate books, a lot of publishers like to publish them in 3 books, but Tolkien intended it to be one novel.

  • lalilulelo59

    November 30, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    Mike, in ROTK you don’t have to use the trebuchets to destroy the seige towers, you can just shoot them down with Gandalf’s magic. After the elephant level, it just gets even harder, the next stage is the final battle in the movie and you have to kill some of the officers (guys with green health bars) to advance. Only problem is, the officers only come out when they want to and you have 20 or 30 grunts trying to assrape you while you’re waiting. I never got past that stage. I rage quit on the level with the door in Two Towers too. Here’s to hope that Hobbit part 1 isn’t a fail.

  • Balints

    November 30, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    I don’t agree with the reviewer. These games were really good back than, especially The return of the king. Of course you don’t enjoy it playing alone. These games ment to be played with a friend, otherwise it’s really hard and frustrating. For example the stage where you have to shoot down the Oliphants, your pal can watch your back till you should the fuckers down.
    I don’t know about the controls on Gamecube, but i didn’t have any problems on the PS2. The combos were easy to learn.
    Again.. challenging, but with a friend (and with a couple of beers) it’s a nice game.

  • christburner

    November 30, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    The Hobbit! review The Hobbit

  • MaximusPM

    November 30, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    Even though The Hobbit is just one (quite short) book, it has a lot of content. Lord of the Rings has too much description, but not enough action. The movie translates description easily and focus on the action. Also, PJ is using all kings of appendix to fill in the blanks of the movie.

  • Johnthegamer

    November 30, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    I think you’re being too pessimistic about The Hobbit Mike, based on what I’ve seen and know about the movie, Peter Jackson is doing everything he can to recapture the magic of The Lord of Rings movies, trying to take us back to Middle Earth one last time. The up side of The Hobbit being divided up into three movies is they can cover a lot more of the events from the book, I seriously doubt that The Hobbit will even come close to being a Phantom Menace.

  • ohgobwhatisthis

    November 30, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    1. You could learn the combos OR look them up in the pause menu… or just have the game hold your hand the whole time, but don’t complain when you have to do that. It’s different in Arkham City because there’s usually ONE specific move/combo you want to use on each enemy, but the combos here are up to you as to how you want to use them in these games.

    2. If you don’t use the combos, even the easy as hell ones to remember or by button mashing, don’t whine that it takes too long to kill certain enemies, because especially when you get a lot of high-ranked kills in a row, you do more and more damage faster and faster, reducing your time to kill enemies.

    3. Yes, the design of the Pelennor Fields level is somewhat confusing, but really, it’s hard for you to remember that the view of the mumaks is flipped? Also, it really doesn’t take that long to kill them, although I will say that it seems that the GC controls are worse than the PS2, which I played these games on.

    I loved this games when they came out, but even though I still like them now, I recognize that they’re flawed and frustrating in some ways (Helm’s Deep is one of the most annoyingly frustrating levels I’ve ever played), but don’t assume that the game is shit or poorly-designed just because you’re not good at it and it doesn’t hold your hand.

    Albeit, The Third Age was pretty much a bad Final Fantasy clone.

  • ohgobwhatisthis

    November 30, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    Oh and by the way, why do you assume that The Hobbit movies are going to suck based on a *trailer*? Did the marketing team make the movie? Then again, Mike mostly seems to have a hard time understanding how things work, so I can see why he would think that.

  • Bassie02

    November 30, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    I think your controller might be busted. I never had that problem with the bow on the NGC. I also played ROTK last summer on PC, and it worked fine.

    It’s funny you’re pointing out that level, since that WASN’T the level me and my friends were stuck on for ages. The level after the fight on the wall of the white city…that fucking level, where you had to protect civilians! Man of man.

    ROTK is actually one of the BEST hack-n-slash games of all times, and machinima agrees with that (i remember one of their top 10s). I understand that you spent so much time explaining your frustration about these levels, but that might scare viewers away from the game, and that is a shame. Atleast recommend it to try it, because some levels (especially the one before the black gate!!!) are awesome and epic. I remember playing that last level over and over…till no orc was standing.

    And the third age. F that game! Here is what i remember playing that game just days after its release:
    After 2 hours of fighting on Helms Deep – retrying i must ad – i get to this area with the first savepoint since the loooooong, agganizing fight. Next to this savepoint is a chest. I thought “Lets open that and save”. But NOPE: as i open the chest, it spawns TONS OF ORCS, cause me to die, CAUSING ME TO DO HELMS DEEP AGAIN!

    I will never forget how mad i was at that game. This is why WE HAVE CHECKPOINTS!

  • bloodthirsty958

    November 30, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    Maybe it was because I was young and less angsty, but I have fond memories of both games. I played the third age for 10 minutes couldn’t stand it. The other two however, especially the third, one of my favorite co op games of all time. Play this with James its a hell of alot more fun with a buddy. I never knew the combos, but I kicked ass at this game (def makes for a better playing experience) That catapault though . . . that was my first rage right there lol. You got to get to the last level though that is the best one (two towers), maybe not since you don’t seem to enjoy the gameplay. Owell

  • Belligeron

    November 30, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    Ok Mike, I am not a Tolkien expert by any means but I do know a fair amount about the books.

    You can pronounce Legolas however you want, however I do feel the way you pronounce it sounds a bit awkward. If I had to guess, Tolkien’s pronunciation would have been the same as it was in the films.

    The ring wraiths are also known as the Nazgûl. The Witch-king of Angmar is their leader. If I remember correctly, the dragon-like creatures that the Nazgûl ride are referred to in the books as “fell beasts”.

  • Dobbs351

    November 30, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    I rem3ember playing this for my ps2!! It was an epic game

  • Morris

    November 30, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    Mike! Everything you said about that damn mission I agree with! You definitely dug up a lot of old painful memories about that fucking game. Love the review. Keep em coming!

  • wastewalker

    November 30, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    When did graphics on the Gamecube not looking like ‘real life’ become a problem?
    Ease up there Mike.

  • November 30, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    I know that with so many comments here you probably wont even read mine but that level in Return of the king wasn’t the hardest, the next level it even tougher, still its a coop game and playing it with a friend is really cool. My friend and I where able to bet it after a lot of trouble.

  • JP90925

    November 30, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    Ive been watching James and Mikes videos for years now since like 06, I never mad an account until today because I hated this video so much lol. The two towers and return of the kings games were awesome! sure it had some dumb problems like the camera angles but almost all games did back then! you also never mentioned the 2 player mode which is the best part it made the game way less difficult. idk I was just really disappointed u had so much hatred toward these games just cuz they are hard.

  • HeadBangerAust

    November 30, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    The Return of the King game sucked ass!!! I played it on the Xbox and the controls were as fucked as described here. I got my ass kicked by the ghost kind guy and it was set on easy! when I finally got past him, I could never escape the crumbling cavern! the gameplay sucked that bad! plus the portion of the game where you play as Sam protecting Frodo, you’ll be right next to him yet it’s game over because the nazgul got him because “you weren’t protecting him.” mediocre movies with great action in the battles, but shitty games

  • November 30, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    Mike, those were some great reviews. The ending had me laughing pretty hard!

    I usually just avoid movie-based games altogether. They often try so hard to imitate the movies they are based of of that they get too complex…not to mention predictable. Still, I look forward to what you have to say about those other two Tolkian Gamecube games and what you think of The Hobbit movies when they come out.

  • GalactusKnowsAll

    November 30, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    Gotta say I have all these games and there not as bad as you make them seem. The fixed camera angles are a problem but are you telling me you cant remember a few button combinations. It was like you were trying to hard to hate these games and honestly the movie looks good but I do agree with it being strung out to 3 I though maybe 2 would be fine. All in all this is probably one of your worse reviews yet.

  • mgarcia

    November 30, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    The unresponsive bow issue seems to be a game cube only thing, as I didn’t have this problem when I played the game on PS2. When I bought my first PS2 it came with this trilogy, and I remember spending two months of weekends mulling through terrible camera angles and leveling up my characters. These games were a massive pain in the ass, but they’ll always hold a special place in me for being the first games I ever played on a sixth-gen console.

  • Leeleeleeleelee

    November 30, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    Thanks for the LOTR review Mike; please keep them coming! I enjoyed Return of the King when it was released for the PS2. But I was playing co-op. Why don’t you use Orc Bane and Uruk-hai Bane? Infinite killings in perfect mode… This game was more on the easy side I felt, though a bit tedious with certain objectives. Once you’ve got the rhythm it’s an addicting competition for the most perfects and the highest overall score.

    I do recall a few camera restrictions, nothing with the controls. I remember a responsive feel.

  • Plumb

    November 30, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    hah! That was a good review.

  • Pompkinini

    December 1, 2012 at 1:33 am

    I’m glad to hear I wasn’t the only one who got near the end of the game and ragequit. Makes me feel better about it now.

  • LordJason1986

    December 1, 2012 at 1:48 am

    excelent review mike. it really is a shame that like so many movie based video games , LOTR also had to be one of them. I’m also a big fan of the original LOTR Trilogy. undoubtably one of the best films ever made. what you said about The Hobbit I absolutely agree with. after seeing the trailer and knowing that it’s split up into 3 films , I dont think it was completely neccessary especially since it was suppose to be only 2 films. and I am worried that Peter Jackson may even screw this film up. although , I would rather see a movie made of The Children Of Hurin if they cant make The Silmarillion. I would love to see if they can depict Morgoth effectively on screen.

    I do have to add a small error Mike. you said that the flying beast that the Witch King was riding was a Nazgul. the Nazgul is the ringwraiths and the Witch King is the leader. those flying creatures are known as the Fellbeast or Hell Hawks. Gandalf called them Nazgul Birds. the word Fell in the Fellbeast is an adjective for fierce or cruel.

    well , I think I know what Gandlf would of said to the makers of this game : “fool of a took! throw yourself in next time to riddle your stupidity!”

  • LordJason1986

    December 1, 2012 at 1:49 am

    I meant to say like so many bad movie based video games. god I hate typos.

  • Erickzon

    December 1, 2012 at 2:12 am

    Hahahaha nice review, but come on! it wasn’t that bad! It was hard sure, but I remember playing the Two Towers when it first came out and having a lot of fun, then I became really excited when the return of the king was announced. The thing with the Return of the King is that you have to level up a lot to complete the levels. I remember having a really hard time with the elephant level, but then I went back and re played a few levels and well, at the end, you become so powerful that I could kill one elephant with 2 super arrows haha, and also I remember trying to remember every single combo, I really love this games xD

  • Radelta

    December 1, 2012 at 2:32 am

    Ive never played that game so I cant be sure, but your controller issue may be that you have to push the button down fully untill it clicks to make your bow come out. I remember playing stuff on gamecube where id have a similar problem and it would annoy me since i would want to just flick the trigger lightly to do what I wanted.

    nice review mike, you should take a look at lord of the rings conquest next. I remember being so hyped for that game, thinking it was gonna be epic like battlefront 2. i sure was wrong, one of the biggest dissapointments ive had in more recent gaming

  • kyletonaus

    December 1, 2012 at 3:07 am

    I loved these games on PS2. The combos, kill moves, and special abilities were super fun to use, and controls were really responsive. It seems that Mike was complaining about the variety of challenges that made the game so intense and great. It was just the right amount of challenge. Using the counter move during combat is what made it a lot easier, kind of like Assassin’s Creed’s battle mechanics.

    These games were definitely the best movie to game adaptations ever made. I know I’m not alone in thinking this because both of these games got somewhere around 9/10 scores on IGN. The PS2 versions are the way to go though.

  • kyletonaus

    December 1, 2012 at 3:18 am

    Oh, and I’m confused as to why anyone would be inclined to have doubts about the Hobbit movie, at least when considering how the trailer looks. It looks spot on! I don’t know why Mike would criticize it because it doesn’t seem to evoke the old cartoon. It should be compared to how the original trilogy looked and felt, and in that context, it appears to make a seamless return to form.

    As to the apparent worry over its slapstick nature: It is based on a book that was geared towards children more so than The Lord of The Rings, and it stars mostly dwarf characters. Jackson will no doubt bring some weight and seriousness to the story, but the comedic and somewhat silly nature of this movie should not be surprising.

  • uncolober

    December 1, 2012 at 3:26 am

    I haven’t read any Tolkien since the nineties, but I’m pretty sure that Nazghul are the wraiths, not the wyverns.

  • The Shamster

    December 1, 2012 at 3:36 am

    uncolober, actually, those things are “fell beasts”, Dragons and wyverns are far too majestic to be such things.

    I also really enjoyed these games, and I’m looking forward to the “Hobbit” films (three of them, apparently.)

  • LordRandyx

    December 1, 2012 at 4:45 am

    mike you forgot about the awsome co-op mode..oh and on the play station it’s better

  • TwistedWiseman

    December 1, 2012 at 6:16 am

    Oh god I remember the second game, it was hard as fuck!
    And the elephant stage was frustrating as hell…

  • mantrox

    December 1, 2012 at 7:49 am

    I played both games – RotK on PC and TT on PS2. I liked RotK more, combat system seemed better and I had a chance to play in coop, which makes the game MUCH better and more fun. I played Two Towers recently, about a year ago, and yeah, that level you mention is hell I had to make a break for a day or two before I finally beat it.

  • rsaotome

    December 1, 2012 at 8:09 am

    Well holy sh*t, I didn’t expect to laugh so much, nice work Mike!

    You seem to have really got the hang of game reviewing!

  • jerseys

    December 1, 2012 at 9:55 am

    Um, what about hte third game? Aren’t you gonna review it?


    December 1, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    i still have the return of the king gamecube version.
    can’t say that it was that frustated.
    i always hated the spider level with Sam.
    but ok.

    i loved the endless stage modes when you had completed the game.
    played it all the times with a friend.

  • Belligeron

    December 1, 2012 at 3:41 pm


    It was “Throw yourself in next time and rid us of your stupidity.”

  • LordJason1986

    December 1, 2012 at 6:00 pm


    thanks for the tip. I guess we dont always remember every single line for every movie we’ve seen. you must of had your fair share too I suppose.

    also , very nice icon image of Pee Wee’s Big Adventure. definatley my most favorite moment from that particular film was the breakfast scene. I have been wanting to buy that movie for a long while.

    what I hope to see in January 2013 with Cinemassacre is if James will discuss the new Texas Chainsaw 3D and focus on the rest of the series that he didnt mention like TCM4 & TCM The Beginning. although , I find it strange that this new TCM movie is being released in January instead of 2 months ago.

  • The Urban Shepherd

    December 1, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    I was really eager to see your review of these games, as I think the latter is a very underrated film tie that shows that at the very least if you can put enough film footage, behind the scenes videos and extras inside you can at least be a worthy purchase for fans.

    However I found the review of both games to be very lacking. More specifically with Return of the King, it would have been better to give a full run through of the game’s design rather than focus on particular bits that frustrated you. You could have highlighted the huge increase in characters, the three branching storylines, the unlockable film extras (including the hilarious ‘Hobbits on Gaming’ vid or the interviews) or the fact that a huge chunk of the film’s cast offered voice overs for the game. Hell Ian Mckellin basically narrates the whole thing!

    Yes, the Pelenor Fields level is horrifically difficuilt, but I never thought it was ‘unfair’. Really it will be much easier if you just learn the combos. They aren’t that complex (in comparison to any Mortal Kombat game at least…) and once you pull them off a few times they become second nature. They take down the harder enemies in a manner of seconds, and help unlock your ‘perfect mode’ which is a life saver when you’re surrounded, though that’s another thing you ommitted.

    It’s a shame this level threw you off, as honestly, the best is yet to come. I’d also highly recommend giving the co-op a go as it makes the whole thing easier and it’s a great way to throw away a weekend.

    I hope you revisit these games and give a followup review in the future. Compared to recent, horrific film tie ins like Iron Man 2, Thor and Green Lantern (super hero movies are getting dicked around…) this certainly passes. Two Towers just barely tucks under the average bar, but Return the King edges quite nicely into the realm of a decent game.

  • LordJason1986

    December 1, 2012 at 6:05 pm


    are you excited to see the new Hobbit film and do you think that splitting them up into 3 films is a bad idea or a good idea?

    also , would imagine The Children Of Hurin as a possible future film considering that The Silmarillion would be too difficult to adapt to screen? or do you think that The Silmarillion also has a possible chance to be adapted?

  • LordJason1986

    December 1, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    @The Urban Shepherd

    well , maybe he should of reviewed something more nostalgic on the same topic like The Lord Of The Rings Volume 1 for Super Nintendo , The Shadows Of Mordor for the Commodore 64 , or something more obscure like War In Middle Earth on the Atari ST. but that’s just my opinion.

  • blair85

    December 1, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    First of all, as everyone has said, I remember these games being quite fun, and I was about 11 when I played them and beat them pretty easily.

    Second, I love how people complained about how much stuff was left out of the film adaptations of Lord of the Rings, but Complain that Jackson tries to indulge everyone with extra material in the Hobbit.

    Third, the Hobbit has a far lighter tone than Lord of the Rings, and I’d be let down if it was just as dark, I want it to have a more comedic side, to contrast with the sheer epic scale of the Lord of the Rings.

    And finally, why even mention “The Third Age” in this video if you didn’t plan on reviewing it?

  • Duck.of.Doom

    December 1, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    The Hobbit game was so much fun. I wonder why he didn’t play it. Much more fun than any of the other games he played, though those were fun as well. I think the Lord of the Rings games have been very good altogether. My favorite game has to be Battle For Middle-Earth 2. TERRIFIC real time strategy.

  • lotusclown

    December 1, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    so glad i never fucked with those lotr games…

  • mmmfloorpie

    December 1, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    This is getting awfully close to an Angry Nerd video…

  • NordicFortune

    December 1, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    I’ve had some great times with Return of the King on PS2! I think the key here is that not once did I play it single player. Definitely get a friend in on the action and you’ll have MUCH more help, and less chance of getting blocked by AI!

    It’s kind of like Dreamcast’s Star Wars: Jedi Power Battles, mediocre game overall, but tons of fun with two players :D.

  • NordicFortune

    December 1, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    (Great review, by the way :p)

  • MireMare

    December 1, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    Spot on with the Hobbit trilogy comment, never has there been such a milking of a franchise. Fingers crossed tho, great to see they got the band back together.

    As for these games, screw that mess. Great review tho, lovely to hear you suffer! :D

  • Wing Dairu

    December 1, 2012 at 10:39 pm

    Sorry, Mike, but I have to call you out on these things.
    Remembering the button combinations is a personal thing, and you DON’T have to break out the book when you want to refresh your memory on them. There’s a command list in the pause menu.

    The problem you have with the bow not always working sounds like an issue with the controller you’re using. I never had any issue like that; I could always just whip out my bow and take a few quick shots.

    Also, regarding the Witch-King…you can shoot at him from the end of either cliff area. You don’t have to go all the way down to the battlefield.

    On a side note, those big dragon-like things are called Fell Beasts; Nazgul is another name for the Ringwraiths themselves.

  • December 1, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    Very good review Mike, that was almost as entertaining as watching James.

  • The Afroman

    December 1, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    I owned the two towers and the third age. The third age I found to be a piece of crap. The two towers was enjoyable until that defending stage…

  • Radelta

    December 1, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    The hobbit is going to be garbage. Theres not enough material in the book for three whole movies. Not to mention they kept the animals they used for the film on a broken down farm where several of them were killed. NO THANKS

  • ronin78100

    December 2, 2012 at 12:06 am

    mike are you a fucking kid grow up and get some fucking patience

  • kyletonaus

    December 2, 2012 at 12:10 am


    There is plenty of material in the Tolkien-verse to make The Hobbit into a trilogy. And thanks for not mentioning the broken down farm because it sounds like exaggerated heresy anyway.

  • drockopotamus

    December 2, 2012 at 1:35 am

    Great stuff Mike! I really enjoy your reviews. Keep em’ coming man. As an artist working in the video game industry, I enjoy hearing about the problems you run into with these games; helps me knock some sense into these level designers. Keep up the great work!

  • Tobop

    December 2, 2012 at 2:56 am

    Nice review Mike! I’d like to mention that the PS2 version must be better. I’ve played both Two Towers & Return of the King, a lot of fun – frustrating at times like all games hehe. But I haven’t tried game cube.

  • Midori

    December 2, 2012 at 3:04 am

    But I really think RotK is a very fun game to play, specially when it’s done with a friend. Is classic hack and slash, and very hard at times. Reminds me of Gauntlet a lot. They may be frustrating games, but that doesn’t mean they are bad. To anyone reading, I really recomend playing that RotK game with some friends. You won’t regret it, I assure you.

  • Midori

    December 2, 2012 at 3:21 am

    I recomend the PS2 version though. DS 2 Works so well for these games.

  • LegallyBlindGamer

    December 2, 2012 at 4:57 am

    Mike, I liked your review, but I’d like to see your take on LEGO Lord of the Rings. It sticks to the films extremely well, only deviating in order to deliver the occasional sight gag. It’s hilarious and awesome at the same time. Hell, they made tossing Gimli into a game mechanic.

  • dkm25433

    December 2, 2012 at 5:37 am

    I love all these games, dude. Probably because I played them as kids, but they’re still crazy fun to me.

  • Jel-K

    December 2, 2012 at 7:07 am

    nice job Mike !

  • December 2, 2012 at 7:48 am

    this game looks way too hard making it a chore/job instead of entertainment. hard games suck.

  • lapearl

    December 2, 2012 at 9:27 am

    I agree the the one-book-takes-three-movies? decision as being worrisome. I don’t have high hopes. I think you have the patience of a saint to have gotten through those levels. I really enjoy your reviews so I hope you keep it up, Mike!


    December 2, 2012 at 11:18 am

    Why would anyone be “cautious” about the Hobbit movies? So there was a bit of levity at the end of the 2nd trailer. So what? Go re-read the book. You’ll notice that the feeling and atmosphere set in ‘The Hobbit’ is MUCH more lighthearted and less dire than the LOTR trilogy. The “slapstick” scenes in The Hobbit movie will not e out-of-place.

    As for having three movies for one book, I say again: so what? Has Peter Jackson ever steered you wrong? I was beyond amped when I heard that it was going to be a trilogy. More Middle-Earth is always a good thing.

    Also, come on Mike…”Lee-go-lass”? That right there damages your credibility either way.

  • KidFistoMFC

    December 2, 2012 at 11:30 am

    Truthfully I think the LoTR games were great! I have the gamecube one’s and I really didn’t find anything to be really hard. Yeah the games was a bit annoying but it was a lot of fun.

  • RealLifeGobbo

    December 2, 2012 at 11:42 am

    The reason why The Hobbit movie is going to be 3 movies is because it is not just The Hobbit. It is also going to be The History of Middle Earth and rumors of some other works.


    December 2, 2012 at 11:48 am

    Mike = AVGN#2

  • Commander89

    December 2, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    I beat the game on PC, it was easier with mouse and keyboard. About the Witch king part of the return of the king: You can shoot the witch king from the end of the cliff, you do not have to run down to the field again. It is far easier this way :)

  • December 2, 2012 at 2:57 pm


    Yeah, I’ve heard the third one is based off of something else, but if each 4 hour long LOTRs movies was based a single book, why is the Hobbit narrative (which is shorter and a much lighter and easier read than any LOTR books) spread across 2 three to four hour long movies, plus a third movie based on related books?

    I’m not saying the movies are going to be bad or anything, I’m looking forward to them, but if I learned anything from the Star Wars prequels… well, you get the idea. It’s safe to say Peter Jackson will be one of the richest people in the movie industry.

  • A Nerd

    December 2, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    Did no one see the interview with Peter Jackson in which he stated very clearly that he was digging into the Silmarillion to make 3 films . . . ? Milking is definitely NOT what this is, alright? I agreed with you, Mike until I heard that was Peter Jackson’s plan, but he doesn’t want to EVER have to go back to middle earth in the future to satisfy more fans, he’s giving them as much as he can to ensure this is his final foray into the series. No anger here, just letting people know.

  • December 2, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    @A Nerd

    I think people are a little wary of the fact that what should’ve been one movie, became two movies, then now three movies. Are they going to split it into 5 movies three months from now? Nobody’s outright accusing him of milking it. But, you can’t help but wonder…

    I haven’t seen the interview you’re referring to, but WHY is he digging into the Silmarillion to make 3 films? I just want to watch The Hobbit for heaven’s sake!

  • TheMovieProfessor

    December 2, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    @Big McLargehuge

    If you don’t mind being corrected, because at the end of filming Peter Jackson had so much extra footage that would work in The Hobbit, The Hobbit will now be a trilogy.

    The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey [2012]
    The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug [2013]
    The Hobbit: There and Back Again [2014]

    And yeah, the studio is trying to cash in on a book with multiple movies such as Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (part 1 & 2), Twilight: Breaking Dawn (part 1 & 2), and Catching Fire (part 1 & 2).
    Interestingly enough, those books have quite a lot of detail that people want to seriously see even if it’s unimportant, whereas even if every detail of The Hobbit were put into movie form, it shouldn’t be longer than 2 under 3 hour movies. However now we have 3 potentially 4 hour movies. And AMC wants to do a special edition The Lord of the Rings trilogy viewing on December 8th? I love LotR’s, but even I struggle to watch all 3 movies in one day with the extended scenes.

  • December 2, 2012 at 7:06 pm


    My statements were mostly speculation, but I still stand by them. I’ve read that Peter Jackson stated the third film would be based on other Tolkien material in order to expand the story. You’re saying he had so much extra footage he made a third movie out of it. So this “extra footage” just happened to be based off of different source material? Oops…

    My only real point was that the Hobbit would have worked much better (in my opinion) as a single film with respect to the source material regardless of studio/audience expectations. But, I’m also sure the three films will be very good as they are in the hands of an excellent filmmaker.

    Thanks for your input, most people on here just bitch about James not making anymore AVGN videos. It’s refreshing to hear from people who are movie fans and actually know what they are talking about, which is why I starting posting on here in the first place.

  • Locksheon

    December 2, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    Seriously, Mike… “Le-ghoul-ass”? They only said it 50 times in the movies. “Leg-oh-lus”.

  • film-allan

    December 2, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    Dear Mike

    I’m sorry to say, but that Pelennor Fields stage in Return of the King is not as difficult as you made it sound like.
    For instance, when standing on the cliff and the Witch King arrives, run to the end of the cliff, and there’ll be a spot where you can shoot at him all you want. Running down from the cliff is simply a waste of time.
    In regards to the many enemies, there’s a simple move (parry + an attack) you can do, that makes you go into perfect mode and lets you kill everyone with single hits without taking damage – for a limited time – and after that repeat the action.
    I never experienced the bow problem, but maybe that’s because I played the PlayStation 2 version.

    I agree that The Two Towers wasn’t that great of a game, mostly because of the very stiff controls, where Return of the King was much more fluent.
    Retun of the King is still to this very day one of my favorite PlayStation 2 titles, and one I play every once in a while :-)

  • Wallydee

    December 3, 2012 at 12:18 am

    Maybe instead of having the elephant cumming so many times, next time you could have him approach……


  • Wallydee

    December 3, 2012 at 12:27 am

    Oh and Mike i love you and your reviews!


    Im gonna have to agree with FILM-ALLAN.

    I just wanted to add to his comment that i can even remember both games not being difficult at all, you forgot to mention the co-op mode wich made the game GREAT back then and like Allan mentioned the parry and attack move or maybe just call it a counter move similar to Assassins Creed’s counter move wich both made the game incredibly easy for the biggest part but still very fun

    I remember some of those counter moves to be pretty damn awesome!

  • Haruko_Haruhara

    December 3, 2012 at 6:41 am

    I actually own all 3 of these games, and i remember hating Return of the King and Two Towers, but The Third Age was great. I remember that The Fellowship of the Ring game was pretty trash too.

  • jefferybuckles25

    December 3, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    i just repurchased the RoTK on ebay for purely nostalgic reasons. I definitely found it more difficult than I did when I played it back when it came out. I still think its pretty fun, but just not polished at all.

  • December 3, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    Lest we forget, Mr. Motherfucker, that The Hobbit is almost as long as Return of the King and half of Two Towers, especially since my copy has the fucking smallest print ever!

  • webster

    December 3, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    I don’t agree with you mike, I thought both of those games were fantastic. For the day, the graphics and gameplay for fairly well done and the replay value was high due to all the unlockables and different difficulties. I played them both on the xbox so maybe thats where the controls came into play. All i know that in the return of the king, on the second level my friend and I fought the never ending enemies until the game just stopped spawning them lol…in ROTK if you just keep attacking enemies this also forces you to parry against their attacks since you both attack each other at the same time…fuck blocking just keep attacking and you will avoid enemy attacks all together

  • Boni

    December 4, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    Hey, Mike, the PS2 version is a lot better, there are no bugs.

    By the way, while fighting at Pellennor Fields, you don’t need to get down to the battlefield to defeat the Witch King. Just go to the edge of the hill you are and send the arrows. It’s a lot easier.

  • chemergency

    December 4, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    Nice review, Mike. I can tell the games haven’t aged that well, though I’ll haven’t to admit I didn’t have a very hard time beating them myself, although I played the PS2 versions which were pretty responsive in the control department from what I can remember.

  • Iron65

    December 5, 2012 at 12:31 am

    Well i have to say. Most of multiplatformer games were bad on the gamecube console. This one had no exception. I’ve owned an xbox and a gamecube and I saw that… i really enjoyed the lord of the rings on the xbox and never got frustrated on the pc stuck in your way, because I did not suffer that luck… But I have to say , there is a far superior game than those two. It’s called, the lord of the rings : fellowship of the ring.. It’s an epic adventure based on the book but lanuch later than the first movie, that only released on xbox and pc I supose, but It was awesome: —> Mike, If you have time, try to play it. One of the best lotr games because of the epic adventure it is

  • Royals55

    December 5, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    These games were not challenging and very fun to play. However I had a Playstation 2 not a gamecube so it may have been different. I dont understand why you were so angered by the company not putting the fact that it had parts from the first game on the box. It should be a nice little surprise not having to pay extra cash for the first game.

  • sonic4482

    December 5, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    If i remember correctly…all 3 of these games that you mentioned(if not the first game you mentioned, then the other 2)has coop in it for multiplayer. I dont believe they state it on the back of the box but if you plug in a second controller and press start(i forget if its in game or at the menus)2 players can play at the same time. However, i remember very specifically that the 3rd LOTR game is an RPG and the second player is only able in interact during the battle scenes. This means the second player will not be able to run around.

  • CharlieBrownGhostAss

    December 6, 2012 at 2:02 am

    I saw a special screening of “The Hobbit” in New York City on Tuesday.
    It did have it’s share of slapstick along with some small musical numbers.
    At least it was nothing like “Phantom Menace”.

  • Pholnrat

    December 6, 2012 at 7:00 am

    I really like your reviews, don’t get me wrong. But I couldn’t get over a few nick-picky things in your video that annoyed me for some reason. Especially when you said you like the books & films so much.

    Firstly, they are Trebuchets on Minas Tirith, not “catapults”.

    Secondly, the “elephants” you keep referring to are called Mûmakil, or Oliphaunts in Tolkien’s universe, It’d of been nice to have kept to this.

    And thirdly, and most annoyingly, why do you call Legolas “Leg-GOAL-LESS”? You’ve just added extra letters into his name!!

    Again, I really like you reviews, but my OCD mind was at work…

  • moltenriches

    December 6, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    What gets me is that you say you’re a big fan of the films yet completely pronounce Legolas’ name wrong? :S

  • n30neuromancer

    December 6, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    Best review yet Mike. Keep em coming like this one.

  • silverogre

    December 7, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    The Hobbit may only be one book but it does have a lot of content to interpret and film. It all comes down to how to structure a film so that you get the most out of its adaptation devices.
    All those swooping cinematic shots of landscape and epic scenery set to a heroic score! This will be done at every new environment. Everyone loves a great shot of Middle Earth without any of the annoying characters cluttering it up. Perhaps some narrative to go with it, but not at all necessary. Coupled with epic music, these shots are quite satisfying.

    Lets not forget those 360 camera shots of our heroes surmounting an clouded ridgeline of endless unnamed peaks! How triumphant! Hold on to that moment!
    I also predict at least 10 minutes of suspenseful “dangling” situations per film. By which I mean, literally 10 cinematic minutes of someone hanging onto a ledge or vine, or frayed rope. An adventure movie staple, one that is far more difficult to exploit for content in the form of the novel. Que suspenseful music, that will keep ‘em interested while this shot lasts way too long. (Ever wonder how folks in movies hang on to ledges and ropes so long? Clearly impossible in real life.)
    Oh, and peaceful celtic flute– often associated with sentimental moments by a creek-side, featuring a motivating pep talk to boost hope, party morale, and exploit character “development” by adding several minutes of dialogue that was never in the novel.

    I can understand why it would need to be split into multiple films to successfully adapt to cinema. I thought that two films would be ideal but maybe three works best, (the best trilogies always come in three’s ;)

    I am also hoping that the slapstick factor will not be overly exploited, but such blunderous situations are perfect as filler.

  • Jack Burton

    December 7, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    I have 3 of the LOTR games cases/manuals for the PS2 I found a while back dumpster diving

  • HighVoltage

    December 9, 2012 at 11:42 am

    LOL. I remember playing this with my nieces on the Xbox. We had fun, because we all loved the movies and you just mashed buttons. Which my nieces excelled at. LOL. Oh and the games were complete chaos, hard to play, and cheap, but what to you expected it is EA. The masters of taking all the fun out of a game.

  • December 10, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    Great review, have to say Mike, you’re the only person I’ve heard use the word “board” to describe a level/stage or whatever, especially when talking about a 3D game, just seems strange to me :s personal preferences and all that

  • rebilacx

    December 11, 2012 at 4:49 am

    I heard they’re making it three movies because they’re adding material from the Silmarillion.

  • kevinguzzer

    December 12, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    ohhhh yeah the PS2 version of this has way better control system, and i dont know about you but i find those games pretty easy to beat (i beat it when i was just 9 years old; when the game just released oh and also the reason why you are getting your ass handed to ya in the Return of the King is because you are only spamming 2 buttons; the strong attack and weak attack,
    The reason why you are also getting your ass handed to ya in the Two Towers is because you dont counter on the Uruk-hais (counter attack is your best friend in that game)
    sooo basically…. i disagree what you say everything about this… but its your opinion and i respect that

  • ChewOnMyBacca

    December 14, 2012 at 6:55 am

    I played the hell out of that two towers game. I’ve played through return on one occasion, but found myself playing two towers over and over. The catapult part gets easier, but the level after (the final stage) is insane. Its protecting another door but you keep having to go and help people across the stage! There are computers that help defend it but once they die the respawn time is annoying. You’d think shooting high powered arrows at them while helping the others would help but it really doesn’t when there are waves of 10 at a time that go straight to the door. To this day I haven’t beaten this game.

  • Throwback Neil

    December 16, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    You can attack the witch king from the edge of the cliff. Also you need to upgrade your arrows. I got the best arrows and managed to take down the witch king with five to six shots.

  • Aaron1375

    December 19, 2012 at 1:44 am

    I was disappointed by Two Towers mainly cause I was expecting more of a Golden Axe style of play and multiplayer.

  • Poseidon025

    December 19, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    Here’s a tip for beating Palinor Fields ( the elephant level) In The Return Of The King. What you do is ge Legolas up to level 9 and then you purchase the upgrade that allows you to shoot two arrows at once. That level then becomes a piece of cake. I never knew about the catapults in Ministerith before this video, I just shot down the towers with my magic. Anyway great game. Why didn’t you talk about the Mout Doom level? that one is hard as hell!!! Or the two bonus levels at the end of the game? Which might I add are impossible with out cheats. But I challenge anyone who has the balls to try to beat the two bonus levels with out using ANY cheats.
    You guys are awesome. Can’t wait for the movie!!!

  • gcritic

    December 23, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Not a good review. I think he could’ve talked about his favorite parts of the games and not just bitch about what he hates. Don’t ban me Mike, just giving a little advice.

  • TJZ45

    December 25, 2012 at 1:43 am

    I’ve never really viewed the Return of the King as a hard game, but tge Two Towers……. That last is impossible! The only to beat thst game is to kick ass with Aragorn all the way through the early levels hope ur vie is strong enough to beat the breached wall while still having the rest of Aragorn upgraded enough to beat the courtyard. Anyways pretty good review and I’ve never played the gamecube versions, but the ps2 version were pretty good for what they were

  • TJZ45

    December 25, 2012 at 1:44 am

    Vie should be bow

  • January 2, 2013 at 7:21 am

    For a person that calls himself a fan of Tolkien you dont know much. Have you even seen the films?

    1.Legolas is mispronounched so many times. If you have seen the films at all you should know that. Or pherhaps you are doing it on purpose just to piss people off

    2. The Witch King IS A NAZGUL! The Beasts dont have names.

    3. GIANT ELEPHANTS! They are called Oliphaunts!(Even in the films). The term Mûmakil would also be accepted.

    Turn in your nerd-card sir :P

  • RetroGamer

    January 3, 2013 at 5:20 pm

    Hey Mike another FANTASTIC reveiw well done , I remember playing this game about 6 years ago i was pretty young and it was difficult but i don’t really remember going trough total hell in that stage , but i had the Ps2 version so it could be that your playing on the Gamecube version.Sounds silly but it is and yes i think the controls are a little better on the Ps2 version.

  • Griffin Conley

    January 14, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    What the hell was that commercial for something in another language? Ugh…I have no idea what it was for, the girl was almost cute.


    February 7, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    Play station game was better

  • Ben_from_G-town

    February 16, 2013 at 5:08 am

    I see. That’s a shame that the games aren’t very good. Not to mention the dust, but all the games are so dark you can barely see anything! But if you think that’s bad, you should play that awful Hobbit game for Gameboy Advance! :D

  • Poolucyfer

    February 21, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    Mike y play all of them in PS2 … And iff you have the expert mode by defending and pulse R1 or L1 in Ps2. The orc`s die in one stike ..helps alot … RESPECT

  • May 21, 2013 at 8:41 am

    The witch king doesn’t ride a Nasgul, he IS a Nasgul. All ringwraiths ARE Nasgul.

  • Anton Avander

    May 23, 2013 at 10:58 am

    the ps 2 version is good but xbox is better

  • DividedByZero

    June 28, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    So I decided to make an account and comment on this video, because I own and have beaten the trilogy of the LoTR games for PS2 (there’s a Fellowship of the Ring game, very different from Two Towers and Return of the King).

    Two Towers was grueling in the final stages. Hell, it was hard in the middle. It’s graphics were shoddy and it’s character selection paled in comparison to RoTK. But it’s not hard if you note a specific list of combos (which you can see every single one by pausing and going to Upgrade List, same menu as purchasing them, and puts you back in the game when you leave. Maybe it wasn’t on GC.) I won’t say the last two stages are easy. By far. I spent months trying to pass them. They’re insane. But they ARE doable. You just need to utilize the tools given to you (and I don’t even meen the fatal moves, just standard combos).

    Return of the King was graphically better, had a far better selection of characters (plus being able to play anyone anywhere after beating it, with perks like playing Faramir, Pipin, Merry, ect.), and had more interesting combat. Pelennor Fields is not as hard as you made it out to be on PS2. You have to hold one of the L buttons to have the bow out, and use the joystick to aim with lock-on assist. I never played GameCube, so I don’t know how the trigger works, or if joystick aiming was a thing. As for the rest of either games, they weren’t too bad (the minimap in RoTK’s stage, the red dots are ladders, the big-ass blue dot is the catapult, you dolt), and the combos range from satisfying to simplistic. Please consider giving them another go on PS2.

  • conner prosa

    August 7, 2013 at 2:27 am

    the 2 towers my mom beat….. i have no idea how. also for the return of the king it has 2 player and so the elephant part is easy er because one can kill oncoming enemy’s while the other shoots and to fire arrows you hoooollld L not tap and the litch king you can shoot on the very corner of the cliff so really 2 player mode makes the return of the king more fun. and the parts with one character like gandalf player one is him then player two is who ever they wanted making it kinda strange seeing gimly fighting side by side with gandalf

  • unreliable narrator

    September 24, 2013 at 3:40 am

    I remember playing these games as a kid. Great review Mike!

    • unreliable narrator

      September 24, 2013 at 3:41 am

      There WAS actually a Fellowship game, but that was based on the book and not the movies. It wasn’t very good but i had fun with it.

  • October 14, 2013 at 4:48 am

    The witch king riding a nazgul in the air? The witch king riding another ring wraith around would certainly be funny to see. lol

  • November 20, 2013 at 8:12 am

    So many things wrong with the review of the first game.
    1. The combos are extremely easy to remember, even with a 7 year old, as that’s when I first played this game. You just literally suck.
    2. That last defense mission is a bit long, but if you actually use the combos well enough, upgrade your arrows(LIKE YOU SHOULD!) or use legolas to pick off from a distance with flame arrows, than YES, it’s easy as FUCK.
    3. There’s actually 4 playable characters, but the last one only appears when you beat the game.

  • Travis Dunahugh

    January 3, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    The third age was one of the most sub par rpgs ever

  • nammm3

    March 22, 2014 at 12:24 am

    I did not see that Gandolf halloween outfit coming at all in the beginning :_P

  • GrUnDlEbUsTeR5000

    April 24, 2014 at 4:53 pm

    Well the movies were awful so I’m not surprised the games they made suck ass as well.

  • April 30, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    Yep I played this when I was only maybe 13? It was a bit frustrating but I never had a problem completing it solo at all. I don’t really understand why you had so much trouble. I heard all of your explanations so I loaded it up just to check and I’m actually finding it quite easy…

  • skwij

    October 10, 2014 at 7:47 am

    Wow! That’s a very solid rant at the end there, sir! Awesome!

  • Ryan Somethingsuch

    February 10, 2016 at 7:05 am

    I played this on ps2 with my brother and it’s just the same. Two players is bearable but I’m pretty sure we came to blows a few times out of pure frustration. I like the adherence to the story but that’s about it.

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