James / August 17th, 2012
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August 17, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Simply loved this video.. the final sentences.. well, I’ve already sas in other places on the internet, that the “world of gaming” needs more people like you. You’re a great person, James. Truly
Marco from Italy
August 17, 2012 at 9:09 pm
James said, ‘the internet is a place where we can rehash these old school cafe arguments’. I laughed out loud, so true.
August 17, 2012 at 9:21 pm
What ever you think is better, is simply preference. I grew up with SEGA and Sonic, and never had a SNES, however, personally, I enjoy the SNES more. Simply because of the gameplay, and in my opinion, that is by far the #1 most important part of a console, and i just thought that the SNES has more classic titles.
August 17, 2012 at 10:06 pm
I haven’t really posted much of anything on here but felt it necessary to do so today. I still remember getting a SNES (for christmas) and I still remember getting my Genesis. My reason was the same as yours… Sonic the HedgeHog which I got for free as a mail in rebate promotion of some sort. Glad to see the quality of a production & content hasn’t escaped you. Good job
August 17, 2012 at 10:59 pm
One of the best things about this video is that James still has the sparkle in his eye.
I truly think AVGN has run its course. I don’t think James as the passion to do it anymore, and that’s just fine. because if he puts out videos like this, I am going to come back every single day.
I may have joined Cinemassacre because of AVGN, but I come back because of James. And Mike, and the rest of the gang like the OA’s and what not.
August 17, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Noticed the latest vid is this one yet I already had watched it in parts. Still lookin forward to your guys’ newest vids to come, primarily an AVGN ep.
August 17, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Yeah Super Nintendo wins. Of COURSE, as Bison in the Street Fighter movie would say. Fun video and breakdown of the preferences with the two console
August 17, 2012 at 11:21 pm
This is probably one of my favorite videos James has ever done.
August 17, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Yep. Favorite period in my entire gaming life. I was born in the mid 80′s so back then 8bits we’re already blowing up in my face. I remember getting my first NES around 90-91 – even though the snes or genesis was probably already out, that console -still- amazed me! My nextdoor neighbor and now best friend had the genesis and later on the snes so I’d get my fun outta THAT! THANK YOU J for bringing me back to the past. Now to get back to the future…..
August 17, 2012 at 11:46 pm
James, I hope you do more collaborations with Jimmy.
August 18, 2012 at 12:00 am
Mike, if you’re watching this now, I am still pressing for a video for Top 10 Obscure Nintendo 64 Gems…I know you said if we had something we wanted to see, we should ask…It would be great to see what stuff you come up with.
August 18, 2012 at 12:15 am
Seriously, the closing statement hit me hard. I was born in 1981 and I was the same way. I was so blind to the issues the “real world” was having, and only cared about my games. today as an adult and having to worry about everything life throws at you. It’s a nice needed break from the chaos to come here and watch these videos. Not only is it entertaining, but it allows me to delve back into my past and forget about the issues we all face everyday.
So thank you James, your videos are MUCH more than entertainment, they are a link to our own pasts. For that I can not thank you enough.
August 18, 2012 at 12:31 am
Super Nintendo is, what Genesiss
August 18, 2012 at 1:17 am
dude, I wish my only qualms in the world were debates over 16-bit consoles. it would make life in general so much easier for everyone.
August 18, 2012 at 1:35 am
Very nice video comparing the SNES and the Genesis. The SNES definitely has a great library of games.
Since I’m a fighting game nut, I love the SNES. There is just so many great fighters on it, especially if you import.
August 18, 2012 at 3:49 am
This is a pretty accurate and entertaining review of both consoles, James . Thank you for putting this video together for us classic video gamers, man!
The first system that I got was the NES, which was influenced by my best friend at the time (Phil), since he had gotten one first. The same thing happened when he later got the Sega Genesis. I guess you could say that he was the Dr. Phil of video games haha .
He was playing Mortal Kombat one day and I was in absolute awe of the digitized graphics and overall violence, so I knew what I wanted for my next birthday!
While some of my other friends and cousins had a Super Nintendo, it just paled in comparison, mostly because I was into edgy games and sports related titles, which the Sega Genesis clearly thrived on.
The Sega Genesis was the king of sports games at the time, just play an NHL game on the Sega Genesis and then play the Super Nintendo version of that game and you’ll see what I mean.
The reaction of the crowd/fans in some of the Super Nintendo games sounded more like what you would hear in an NBA game (“defence, defence, defence!”), it made absolutely no sense!
Fighting was also completely removed in Super Nintendo NHL games. For this very reason games like Mutant League Hockey were exclusively released on the Sega Genesis, as the hockey players could actually be killed off on the ice! Way cool!
Even Mortal Kombat for the Super Nintendo has what looks like dust coming out of the kombatants, whenever they take punishment, what a joke! Were all of the kombatants related to Smoke or something?
Nintendo clearly realized this flaw and later enabled blood in the sequel, as you pointed out, James, but it was already too late by that point, for me anyway. I had made my choice with the Sega Genesis baby!
Besides, the original Nintendo was already super enough in my eyes (still my all-time favorite console to this day, hands down!), so the chances of another Nintendo console stealing my heart was basically next to none haha!
However, I did later purchase a Super Nintendo as an adult, but haven’t given it any playing time as of yet. I am planning on playing through Castlevania IV one of these days though, as most people love it, including you, James!
I enjoyed the original Castlevania for the NES and people say that the Super Nintendo version is WAY better, so I’m looking forward to finding out the truth for myself!
August 18, 2012 at 4:00 am
I’ve been watching Cinemassacre for years and registered just to leave a comment. Loved the video and I agree with GuardianAuron when he said that AVGN seems to be in decline. But I do think that it could be freshened up some by moving on past the 8 and 16-bit world and reviewing some slightly newer games as you’ve spent just shy of a decade working on the 8-bit world now.
August 18, 2012 at 4:17 am
Awesome! I laughed out loud at James’ commercial with whiny Baby Mario, not to mention the interaction between adult James and little Jimmy. Inspired video.
August 18, 2012 at 4:56 am
Yeah, I thought that was a fair comparison. I’d go with Super Nintendo too, but plan on owning both, so I could at least play the Streets of Rage games.
August 18, 2012 at 8:10 am
I been a lurker on this site for years, this video made me decide to register to leave a comment.
Thank you! this was my life story back then. Every month i would be eager to check to mail to get the latest Nintendo Power magazine so i would have stuff to talk about at school and to get excited feeling of great games.
It really is a great feeling.
This video felt like “The Dragon of my Dreams” i could really feel a lot of feeling behind this video.
Thanks for all that you do and keep up the good work, and bringing us all back to the past!
August 18, 2012 at 9:23 am
The FX games where actually an exclusive to nintendo because they incorporated the FX chip inside of the cartridges, like an hardware add-on inside of the game itself, thoose where the first polygon graphics implemented inside of a videogame which where not prerendered like in Another world or flashback, by the same british studios who packit up inside of thoose games, if you dont count the vector games on atari i guess, it reminds of FX fighter and how primitive it could have been. About the baby mario whining…yeah i used to get laughed at also… and pro atari lynx commercial references..soooo sweet XD, anyway what is gaming all about experience? full immersion, fun with friends?? I still love adult based games know and then, and always in to that past mood, but reminds also that thoose experience would’ve never been complete if they weren’t PC related, most of the games that come up today i can see some decisive remenscence to the spirit that came up in to PC games, like Red alert being Black Ops or Little Big Adventure being Opoona, i would bet that the PC rappresents the fundamentals of gaming in computing in general for its variability and chance to make experimentations but consoles are the main stage, so if it where me. i wouldn’t be to much picky on the sound and graphic system in general, they where both excellent consoles with their unique aspects, maybe on the outcome one eas more experienced in getting the best performances, but on an overall experience i feel to sad to leave Sega one step behind.
August 18, 2012 at 11:00 am
I had an original NES when I was too young to really enjoy it, so when I got a Genesis bundled with Sonic the Hedgehog 2 as a kid, it was the best thing to ever happen to me at the time. From then on, I was a Sega and Sonic fanboy. So much so, I was able to persuade all of my cousins to own a Genesis just so when I visited them, I could bring my games.
I don’t care much for the debate anymore of which one is better, but better believe I was one of those kids on the school bus or cafeteria that would defend Sega to the death. But now as an adult, and after watching this video, I can appreciate the SNES alot more and even have emulators on my phone. Maybe I can even admit that based on the very fair comparison, the SNES is the winner. It still doesn’t change all the memories I had with the Genesis, or all the fun I had. This was a great video, and just like some of the other comments here, I’ve been registered and watching Cinemassacre for years, but this is one of the only times I left a comment.
August 18, 2012 at 11:03 am
The fun factor alone, with games like Final Fantasy 3, Super Metroid, A Link to the Past, Chrono Trigger, Castlevania, and Donkey Kong Country were enough to blow Genesis out of the water. I had both systems, but I always found myself Playing SNES. I still have yet to find games more fun than the ones on the SNES.
August 18, 2012 at 1:07 pm
I’ve watched and loved Cinemassacre for years, but registered just recently to ask what the music playing at the end of the video is, it seems very familiar, but I just can’t remember it, any help is appreciated, thanks!
August 18, 2012 at 1:14 pm
When I was a kid I didn’t know much of anything about the hardware used by the 16-bit consoles, and if asked I might have said either the graphics capability was the same, or even better on the Sega.
One thing I did know though was the _games_. With Mario, Zelda, Megaman, and Squaresoft games, Sega was just outclassed.
@iPodzilla the song is the ending tune from Donkey Kong Country.
August 18, 2012 at 1:59 pm
ok, to get things clear im not hating on avgn but i think he forgot to mension alot of things like adaptor forthe snes to play nes games was hard to find was expensive and it was an nes on a chip on the other hand the gennesis adaptor for sega master system was bassicly was a peas of plastic thats beacause all of the componets was built into the gennesis and it was really cheap
second is he forgot to mension alot of sega gennesis games like ecco the dolphin,ristar,dynimite heady,comix zone,spplater house 2,3,flicky,bonza bros,streats of rage 2 (he forgot to mension the improvments from the first one) etc…
third he forgot to mension virtua racing with the svp chip
so overrall i enjoyed the video but i think it could bean a little better i understand that he grew up with an snes and i don’t blame him for not mensioning some great games for the gennesis for that reason and i know he has been very busy with the movie and probly didn’t have enough time to reaserch but overrall really nice video
August 18, 2012 at 2:54 pm
james, i love the video (s). I had snes as a kid. some of my friends had sega. There were some good games on sega, but snes kicked ass. I had game gear, so I did enjoy games like sonic and echo the dolphin. However, mario is still to this day my favorite game. And I still play my snes games at 28! ha. Thanks for all your hardwork and making me laugh, while bringing me back to the past. cant wait for the movie!
August 18, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Huge fan from Sweden here. Just wondering If you have played the game Soleil ( Crusader of Centy ) for sega genesis since you like Zelda: Link to the past so much? If not then you must try it! Cheers!
August 18, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Would be nice to see more videos like these, comparing other generations of consoles.
August 18, 2012 at 8:05 pm
One love from UK boyeee. Love your vids, hate the sell out adverts. I don’t care about detergents. Why sign up to the which was ‘best’ crap. That completely depends on experiences at the time. Why not big up the positives of both? I wish you’d review some amiga games one time in your life – You’ve got one! They were the ultimate playground disc swap era over here. SNES and MegaDrive were both in my life; but the games were SO expensive! Really hope your movie is all it can be, I know you’ll pull it out. Muchos respectos. Ta ra
August 18, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Little james is so cute XD. I love this video I grew up in this era so it’s awesome to see a video focused on this whole era. I want a soundtrack collection of SNES and Genesis games
August 18, 2012 at 10:39 pm
There’s no comparison… the Genesis is CLEARLY the better system! I’m just kidding of course, The SNES is the best, no contest.
August 19, 2012 at 12:50 am
I agree to every point made about these two systems. James hit every point head on. In my opinion there is no comparison SNES takes it hands down. I have a SNES and still play it. I had a Sega till someone sold it without my knowledge, shame on them… I love the replay value of many of the games the SNES has. I loved to hear James give Super Metroid and a few other games such a great mentioning or recomendation i guess. I would love see a video about some of the great games from SNES and why they are so great like Super Metroid, one mentioned in this video. Also, maybe a few hidden gem games. In my opinion a game called ‘Lagoon’ is one of those gems.
August 19, 2012 at 2:29 am
Pretty good and fair comparison. I lean towards Super Nintendo as well, but loved Genesis for the Streets of Rage games, which kicked ass.
August 19, 2012 at 9:37 am
Best video game soundtrack of 16bit era: Batman on the Mega Drive (Genesis)
Every track on that game is amazing, there isn’t a single one that isn’t epic and I can’t say that about any other game that came before or after.
August 19, 2012 at 2:47 pm
I personally want to see an unedited version of the younger self review, please show lol
August 19, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Dude James you forgot to mention the greatest rpg ever made for the SNES- EARTHBOUND!!!
August 19, 2012 at 4:36 pm
I found this article that explains a bit about why the plastic can tend to discolor over time.
Seems it’s a combination of UV exposure and reaction to heat that reacts with certain chemicals used in the plastic to make it flame retardant.
August 19, 2012 at 5:07 pm
I’ve been a huge fan of yours ever since you were the Angry Nintendo Nerd, but I never registered until now. Anyway, I’ve been watching for a real long time, and I’ve seen your style progress quite a bit, both in the AVGN videos and in your others, too. Right now, you are really busy with the movie and probably can’t put as much effort into your AVGN videos. Although I appreciate all the time and polish you put into your videos nowadays, I just want you to know that you don’t necessarily need all that extra stuff during these really busy periods. At this point, I’m sure all your fans are simply interested in what you have to say, whether your beating up guys in costumes and chugging Rolling Rock, or just talking to the camera against a black background. This video made me so happy that I played through Super Metroid as soon as it was done. Keep up the good work, Nerd!
August 19, 2012 at 6:49 pm
This is the best AVGN video yet. I love the old videos for sure, but as I’ve grown older, so has James, and James himself is just cooler than the character he used to play. I say, more videos like this and less where you pretend to be the nerd.
August 19, 2012 at 7:23 pm
Well bouth consoles are good but, do the same thing but only with the games the company make? And you will see the difefince. Mario, dk,metroid and zelda vs sonic golden axe phantasy star,street of rage,alex kid,shinobi ,zillion,road rash etcccc and many more original from sega… And 1more ting dont compare strret of rage 1vs final fight 3 thats low strret of rage is way better and i play bouth.. Gl and i like your vids
August 19, 2012 at 8:57 pm
I preferred the Mega Drive myself. I also want to mention a few things in the Mega drives favor that I feel got over looked.
While the Super NES had a better controller there where so many different controllers you could get for the Mega Drive that it isn’t even funny. While you did briefly mention this, I’d also like to mention that I think the Mega Drive controller had a better D-pad.
I also wish to point out that Crono Trigger was never released in the PAL region so only half the wold got to play it. I think the Mega Drive sold more world wide but the SNES sold more in the US, but I’m not 100 % sure.
August 19, 2012 at 9:15 pm
My name is Poop Stain Mcgee!!!
August 19, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Quite possibly my favorite video to date. Including the clips of your older self is hilarious and reminds me of my own videos as a kid talking about James Bond, GI Joe and so on.
Also, massive props. To this day my two favorite games are Super Metroid and Link to the Past. Two of the only games I’d ever consider perfect. Just watching those clips makes me want to fire up the SNES and play them for probably the 30th time each. What makes Super Metroid so great are all the special moves where you can break the natural progression of the game. If you’re unfamiliar, watch some speed run videos.
Anyway, great post James. Keep up the great work!
Oops, meant younger self! =)
August 19, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Excellent video, as usual. SNES rocks!
August 20, 2012 at 12:10 am
James, excellent video! I really enjoyed it and it’s the first video that I’ve ever decided to take time to comment on.
I just wanted to point out one thing about the SNES, something that wasn’t mentioned in the video or comments, but it’s the main reason why I love the SNES so much more than the Genesis – The SNES had the ability to save your game in action/ platformers.
Look at these games for the SNES:
- Super Mario World 1 & 2, Yoshi’s Island
- Donkey Kong Country 1-3
- Mega Man X 1-3
- Super Metroid
- Castlevania 4
What do these games have in common? That’s right, the ability to save your game by either a save battery or password! This allows the player to comfortably play through the games at their own pace and take their time to explore every level to their hearts’ content.
Now look at the Genesis action/platformers:
- Sonic 1 & 2
- Dynamite Heady
- Kid Chameleon
- Vectorman 1& 2
- Decap Attack
Notice that these games DO NOT let the player save their games or receive a password to continue later (If I remember correctly). If you wanted to beat these games, you had to leave your genesis on all day and each time you turned the power off and on, you had to start the whole game all over!
Now today, maybe it’s not such a big deal because we have emulators with save states, but when I was a kid, you bet it was a huge problem! My parents only let me play games for 1 or 2 hours a day, so of course I was never able to beat Sonic 2 or Kid Chameleon until years later when I finally downloaded emulators in college. I got so angry every time I got to the last boss fight in Sonic 2 against Metal Sonic and Dr.Robotnic (you have to beat them BOTH with no rings!), lost all my lives and continues, and had to start the WHOLE GAME over again! Now THAT WAS BULLSHIT.
See, the difference between Nintendo and Sega was that Nintendo actually cared about its players – the fact that we had lives outside of gaming and we couldn’t just play through a 5 hour game in one sitting (like Kid Chameleon with its 100+ levels, UGH!). So Nintendo always gave us the option to save and continue later. Only short games, like Contra 3 or Axelay, didn’t really need saving abilities because they took less than an hour to play through.
In a nutshell, that’s why I’ll always love Nintendo and the SNES more than Sega. I sold my Genesis for a SNES after getting frustrated at Sonic 2 and I never regretted it! Best decision of my life, LOL.
August 20, 2012 at 3:14 am
No mention of PRIMAL RAGE are you fucking kidding me!?
August 20, 2012 at 4:52 am
“Sega has more peripherals…”
Maybe… but the SNES controller was form and perfection achieved, the model for which later controllers followed. Form to fit the hand, four face buttons on the right thumb, and shoulder buttons were all NINTENDO’S innovation. Also, the Megadrive does not have a better D-Pad, your friends were just giving you a broken controller.
“You failed to mention X game.” Given the Nerd’s vast collection I doubt he “forgot” to mention anything. It is probably that the games you all so fondly remember from the Genesis are either on the SNES, or have better versions of similar gameplay.
Need I point out the vast library of games James didn’t tap, starting with Earthbound and ending with Zombies Ate My Neighbors… Seriously the SNES and NES advanced our gameplay styles on every system to date, whether it is an MMO (Still using the same basic system for to hit or damage as Final Fantasy), or a zombie shooter, (see my Zombies Ate My Neighbors for SNES), the Nintendo systems paved the way.
Genesis tried to ride the wave and say they were better the whole time…
August 20, 2012 at 11:50 am
Awesome Job James!!!!!! Keep it UP! and I agree SNES all the way! I owned both as well!
Does anybody know that song at the end of the this video??? what is it???????????????
August 20, 2012 at 12:16 pm
it’s a bad game for the nes, if you can see if there could be a AVGN video
August 20, 2012 at 2:37 pm
James, I was born in those times of epic 16 bits era games, beeing 33 years old this year bring me way back. We had the same arguments here in Canada, I mean, every 10 years old boys had either one of those console. I’ll go plug in my SNES nad replay Super Metroid in 58 minutes like I did back then. Thanks
August 20, 2012 at 3:55 pm
I think the great thing about the “Bit Wars” was that there was no definitive winner and we, as video game fans, were given some great games by both Nintendo and Sega.
August 20, 2012 at 4:37 pm
I love this video to its full extent but you forgot to add in one thing….. redesigned models.
August 20, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Mini-James looks a bit like Robert Jeffrey.
August 20, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Hmm… I dunno, some arguments weren’t good enough for me. For instance the 3d chipped cartridges thing. James never played Virtua Racing, probably.
August 20, 2012 at 8:53 pm
I love your commercial, the filter you put over it to look like it was recorded off TV in the early 90′s.
August 20, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Great, Great video James!! Very even-handed, showing love for both consoles, and you really captured the tension of the argument at the time. I was there too, lived it and loved it. I was lucky enough to have both; the Genesis blew my mind when it came out, then the SNES blew the rest of my brains out with awesomeness! The gaming experience is so different these days, still great but, I really think we’ve lost something. Thanks again for taking me back to the past. James you are a genius.
August 20, 2012 at 9:02 pm
As I am just getting into the RPG games (I never played them as a kid, I am 34 now), the Genesis was my thing back then as I was an obsessive Sports gamer (Anyone wants to unload any Sports game for ANY console, i will gladly take em)..
I actually traded in my SNES for a Genesis when SNES didnt have the first NBA Live 95 game and their NHL 95 wasnt near Sega’s.
But overall, yeah, SNES looks great and far superior looking back..
Gladly I have them both and many others today…so I can check it out myself.
Thanks for bringing the greatness with this site James, you are doing a HUGE service to many, many of us that LOVE to look back…
August 21, 2012 at 1:02 pm
I liked this video it was a good argument although everbody has their own opinion but mine was also super nintendo just because thats what i played the most while growing up. And i loved that you pick the credits theme from donkey kong country for the ending song to your video thats a classic and it brings back alot for me. Good video keep up the work james.
August 21, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Thank you for this video.
I don’t want to claim that I was a Nintendo fan boy, but I held the same sentiment as young James did back then. I am 34 now, and vividly remember the console wars. I held respect for Sega, and the Genesis, but the Super Nintendo was king in my eyes. Mostly for the very games you mentioned: Super Castlevania IV, Mega Man X, Super Metroid and Link to the Past (one of my favorite games ever as well).
Watching this video took me back two decades and to be honest, brought a good tear to my eyes. Those were definitely special times that we are lacking in today’s world.
August 21, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Here I was thinking you were going to forget about A Link to the Past (except for the little snippets of music after every Super Nintendo victory), turns out it may be your favourite game ever. I was born at the very end of the 16 bit era but that didn’t stop the first video game I ever played being Super Mario World. I used to game the Super Nintendo all day. Super Street Fighter, Super Double Dragon, Super Mario World, those were the good old days. Long live Legend of Zelda, Metroid, Mario, Pokemon, and everything Nintendo.
August 21, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Im pretty sure i beat TMNT turtles in time
August 22, 2012 at 12:56 am
not a fan of sports games eh James! there is a tonne of sports games and sports games publishers and developers to comment on.
ex. ea vs 2k, tecmo vs acclaim and so on.
please consider this in you next nerd video. some of your fans such as myself play the classics as well as the sports games
August 22, 2012 at 1:35 am
“Love that vitamin D!”
August 22, 2012 at 4:05 am
It’s a great debate and a great video, but mostly it just makes me sad that I never had a Super Nintendo. I grew up with Genesis. And you know not everything gets released on the Virtual Console. Where’s Starfox, damn it?!
Anyway, there were some 3D games for Genesis that didn’t use the 32x, etc. There was Virtua Fighter, Virtua Racing, that F-22 jetfighter game… Its graphics were about on par with Starfox. Plus, if you beat the Iraq campaign, you got to see Saddam Hussein crying!
August 22, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Both of these systems were great and both had some classic titles. For me its a draw and I think you said it best by the end of his video.
In the end its about the games and i hope future generations will one day pick up these systems and enjoy them for what they did for the video game industry.
August 22, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Indeed, A Link to the Past was the nuke that blew Sega away.
August 23, 2012 at 4:33 pm
why is there a part 1, part 2, and then a full video?
August 24, 2012 at 1:51 am
Wow, who was the video intended for in pre-net times? I remember getting my snes and my rich preppy friend got a genesis. the only problem was it was atleast 2yrs. before the video store in our small area had genesis cartridges.
August 24, 2012 at 2:44 pm
What a great video James. I was a Nintendo guy and I’ll always be a Nintendo game.
August 24, 2012 at 7:04 pm
My pick would be the Sega Genesis, why? Because of not only it’s better than the SNES, and a library of better games, but also it’s also called: “Blast Processing”!
“Genesis does, what Nintendon’t.”
August 24, 2012 at 7:44 pm
I don’t understand how he can talk about Genesis best games, and not name a single treasure game, which are considered by many one of the main reasons to own a genesis.
August 24, 2012 at 9:57 pm
Good job with this versus video
Just a little question. When this video is out of the frontpage, where can it be found? Since it’s technically not an AVGN video, it’s not in that section, so where is it?
August 25, 2012 at 11:07 am
I second the comment on doing some Sports games shows…some of the vs. type shows…
Or at least maybe have someone else do them and host the episodes on your site? That could work as well…
August 25, 2012 at 2:16 pm
Personally I am on the “nintendo side”, but the genesis does have its share of nice games aswell. Why does this show up in similar videos on youtube? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPXaOOH4Dw4&feature=plcp
August 27, 2012 at 11:29 am
Great video, James. I was always full on nintendo back then. The Genesis never interested in me. I had a friend who owned one. I’d play some Sonic here or there, but the system never grabbed me like the SNES did.
The SNES’ game library, in my opinion, just blew away Genesis’ selection.
SNES had super mario world, Link to the Past, Super Metroid, the Super star wars trilogy, Donkey Kong Country. The Genesis had nothing in my eyes to compete with those incredible games.
August 27, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Epic video James, just makes you remember about how our life were when kids personally I’m from Monterrey, Mexico and we could afford to buy 2 consoles, but it was always fun to go to a friend’s house that had genesis ( I always had nintendo consoles) and play Sonic, or shinobi or any of those games you weren’t able to play on SNES… I don’t know if the sega guys thinked the same.
I think sega wasn’t as popular as nintendo in Mexico, I just now 1 kid that had sega from my childhood, everybody owed nintendo consoles. Now as grown ups we all think here that being a “sega kid” was awful because nobody would have games to borrow you or in the video rental stores there only were nintendo games! I never saw a video rental with sega games in it… so sega kids just were like strange ppl haha.
But as you said in your video, LONG LIVE THE 16 bits, just hearing that makes you fill goose bumps and remember about all the great games you’ve played
Keep up the good work dude.
August 28, 2012 at 7:39 pm
This video inspired me to get a SNES, needless to say I’m happy with my purchase even though I got a piss coloured one, haha.
August 29, 2012 at 10:29 am
Great video. Always drawn to the speed of Sonic, the awesome music on Streets of Rage 2, and the juvenile fun on knocking people off their bikes on Road Rash – but otherwise it was Nintendo absolutely hands down, too many great games and memories to list.
August 30, 2012 at 1:13 am
I made an account just to tell you that nintendo blew ass, you are clearly a nintendo fanboy and you suck . lesson learned only watch mother fucker mike videos…..
August 30, 2012 at 9:40 am
Good vid James! I also like WongSSJ’s post. I too will admit to being a fanboy to Nintendo but you are right, our world as gamers would not be complete without the Genesis. Now as for the Genesis, Sega did have a faster console… BUT THEY DIDN”T DO ANYTHING WITH IT!!!!!!! The difference is a little noticeable when playing [highly detailed] games at high speeds like Sonic of course. Now, compare any 3D game on SNES to Genesis’ Virtua Racing. The difference is HUUUGE! The movement is so much more fluid on the Genesis it actually makes the control feel responsive (try playing Stunt Racer). Virtua Racing is the ONLY game I’ve seen where processing speed made a better game but, like I said, Sega didn’t go any farther with that technology and that is another reason why Nintendo dominated. I also have Sega Sh** (Sega CD) and that was more wasted potential.
September 1, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Genesis kills SNES and blows it to the pieces by only two awesome games – Zero Tolerance and Dune2. And it’s due only to faster CPU that makes it possible. Nintendo’s Donkey Kong Country of Killer Instinct are also very-very cool, but they don’t stay close to Zero Tolerance and Dune2.
September 1, 2012 at 11:20 pm
9:10 – SEGA ! :D:D
September 2, 2012 at 4:14 am
Love your work James. Looks like you were destined from the get go eh? I love how you summarized all the info and categories. My favorite parts were when you mentioned the FX chip and showed off FFIII/VI. Seriously, that game is a marvel. All that’s on that cartridge. 61 songs. The many playable characters, two over worlds, and it uses the FX chip for the flying sequences. Excellent job.
September 4, 2012 at 2:31 am
Ah, James! Love what you do but I hafta call you out man.
Every time you mention Genesis games, you proceed to go in-depth about a SNES game and how you prefer it instead. Don’t get me wrong, I love Nintendo and am a huge Zelda nerd but I think you let your childhood fondness of the SNES hinder your video. Either that or you aren’t too familiar with Sega’s console.
Here are some great games anyone with a Genesis needs to play: X-men 2: Clone Wars, General Chaos, Eternal Champions, Comix Zone, Vectorman, Mega Turrican, and Beyond Oasis.
September 4, 2012 at 9:05 am
September 4, 2012 at 9:06 am
I have some troubles for write a comment. Is always talking “bad words” and isn’t true.
September 4, 2012 at 9:12 am
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September 4, 2012 at 12:11 pm
That’s right, foul on mentioning the unlicensed equipment on SNES.
I hate sports games too!
September 5, 2012 at 11:52 pm
I defintely enjoyed my time playing SNES.. Street Fighter 2, Super Mario World, Zelda, Megaman X and more. I had the Genesis growing up, and you couldn’t beat Sonic, Streets of Rage, Road Rash, Shinobi, Shining Force, Gunstar Heroes etc. Those games have much more nostalgia factor for me and makes the Genesis better in my eyes. That said, I could easily say that if I had grown up with the SNES, it would probably have been my favorite.
Over the years, thanks to having access to both, and the games that made them great, I can definitely say that both have amazing libraries and are virtually equal in the gaming department. I still believe the 16 bit era was the golden age of gaming. The games today are amazing, and some will always be memorable, but will they have the staying power of the juggernaut franchises from the 16 bit era, or earlier? Hard to say.
Now you basically have a similar situation with 360 vs PS3, which is very interesting. The 360 is in the same boat as the Genesis was. It came first, it’s library isn’t as celebrated, and it’s a bit underpowered vs the PS3. It even has it’s “blast processing” in Xbox live. In fact, the Xbox brand came to be when Peter Moore left Sega after the Dreamcast failed, which Microsoft built the Operating System for. The spiritual successor to the Dreamcast is the Xbox brand. Sony is like the SNES. Better graphics, more famous franchises and better technology, like blu-ray. Sony got the idea for the Playstation brand when they worked with Nintendo on a SNES CD console. Sony took what they learned from that experience and made the Playstation. If Nintendo were to ever go the route of SEGA, well, the Playstation brand would be their spiritual successor. It’s kind of like history has repeated with those two consoles. Makes you think a little.
September 8, 2012 at 4:06 pm
This is definitely one of the best AVGN videos to date. It took me back in time.
I hope you continue to do more console battles.
I’m thinking which would be most appropriate, but honestly im not sure of the lineage. We all know it went nintendo, sega, genesis, super nintendo, nintendo 64, gamecube, wii. but where did playstation, ps2, and xbox come in?
I’m looking forward to seeing what the nerd’s research turns up!
September 9, 2012 at 3:42 pm
WORLD OF WARCRAFT FANS CHECK THIS OUT http://youtu.be/cC4F-MMjiBg
September 11, 2012 at 6:55 pm
thanks for the great video. i was personally a genesis kid. i had both consoles, but i had much more fun with the genesis. i actually preferred the sound in the genesis, as well as the game selection.
September 12, 2012 at 8:55 pm
does anyone happen to know the name of the game shown at the 15 minute mark? it was my favourite snes game, i forget what it’s called, and i figured it’d be esier to make an account and ask you guys here than to fish it out of the internet myself. i know i’m going to feel like an idiot as soon as someone tells me, but i just can’t for the life of me remember the title…
September 12, 2012 at 9:04 pm
Amazing video James, brilliant. Yet more nostalgia for me delivered from you. Awesome.
September 15, 2012 at 11:18 pm
When I was young I had both a Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis. So for me I didn’t bother to pick sides.
Shining Force 2 for the Sega Genesis.
Final Fantasy 3 for the Super Nintendo.
Those are the two games I liked the most growing up.
September 18, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Act Raiser for SNES (the first level, I think)
September 26, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Oh shit… shirt is pressed.
September 27, 2012 at 6:46 am
I think EU Snes looks better than US!
October 3, 2012 at 1:08 pm
You should post the entire video of you as an 11 year old. I bet that’s awesome.
October 22, 2012 at 7:44 pm
registered just to say thanks. this brought back so many memories, great video james really appreciate it. nostalgia all over
November 2, 2012 at 7:46 pm
IT’S SO DUMB TO SAY YOU CAN KEEP YOUR SPORT GAMES. YOU MORON. YOURE NOT EVEN GONNA GIVE CREDIT FOR THAT CMON. THATS JUST RETARTED. I REALLY HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE UNDERVALUE SPORTS GAMES OR SPORTS IN GENERAL. I MEAN HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE SPORTS I HATE PEOPLE LIKE THAT.
November 10, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Great video James, I personally love both consoles equally.
Although I find it weird that you’d include an unlicensed 3rd party adapter in favour of the SNES, yet you wouldn’t include official add-ons for the Genesis. It just seems a little too biased in my opinion.
December 15, 2012 at 10:17 am
In Chile da’ Sega Genesis was popular in the begining, but the maketing campain for the SNES, was a lot better. Mario’s face was in every single corner on my city and SNES games was always in the front windows of the stores.
December 17, 2012 at 2:00 am
SNES just has too many of my favorite games of all time for me not to pick it. It is probably my favorite system of all time.. so many amazing memories at the right time in your life.. being young everything felt like magical discovery and a wonder I have yet to rediscover in my life.
January 1, 2013 at 11:29 pm
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January 6, 2013 at 2:08 am
So i never noticed that the ps1 controller is the same as the snes controller plus an extra R and L button, and the ps2 controller is the same plus joysticks and sensitivity in the d pad, vibration, AND the ps3 controller is still the same as the ps2. The SNES really had a lasting 20 year impact on handheld interface devices. come to think of it, nintendo has been constantly on the forefront of controller tech. the 64 controller was all kinds of different, The gamecube had dual joy sticks before the ps2 and the wii had.. all this new fangled kind of stuff before the kinect and whatev.
January 6, 2013 at 11:32 pm
What is that nice piece of music at the very end?What Video Game is it from?
January 8, 2013 at 11:20 am
What happened to your youtube channel?
January 8, 2013 at 6:30 pm
I loved this video! I remember all these awesome games as I was lucky enough back then to have both systems. I’m a bit late to the AVGN but I’m certainly glad I’m here now. I’ve successfully watched all of your AVGN episodes and now I’m on to these side bits. I love this stuff!! Shame I didn’t get to catch the movie though, would have liked to see that one. Keep up the great work man, you’ve certainly made an impact on this angry gamer.
January 9, 2013 at 9:51 pm
James I have been a long time supporter of your work and I have to say that this video captures what makes you so great. Your honesty and emotion strikes a chord within your fans and on behalf of all of us, thank you.
January 11, 2013 at 1:14 pm
Killer Instinct man I loved playing that.
January 15, 2013 at 2:35 pm
I must say that I disagree with Sim City. The best version of Sim City was for Amiga 500. That was amazing. Even better than in PC (which was a little annoying as I had a PC and my best friend back then had an Amiga).
January 18, 2013 at 11:44 pm
so go fuck your face thru your ass you dick!
January 22, 2013 at 1:06 pm
Long live the 16 bits (plays nice music)
January 31, 2013 at 9:41 pm
i want to cry. so beautiful :’)
March 31, 2013 at 9:11 am
At the 15:00 mark.. what is that game? I remember playing it as a kid at my grandma’s house, and I’ve not been able to work out the name!
May 7, 2013 at 11:13 pm
Actrasier (( not the second one mind you yes they made two, first one is best IMO ))
April 21, 2013 at 10:56 pm
Actually scrolled through all the AVGN episodes about a 1000 times over the course of 2 nights in search of this video…
The only thing I remembered was the young James being hilarious in it & the video overall being awesome.
I finally found it. The skull screaming SEGA in the end of the commercial you made for the Genesis is one of the funniest things i’ve ever seen.
Thank you !