James / June 5th, 2012
Any editors out there who would like to help cut the AVGN Movie, send an email to firstname.lastname@example.org with the subject “Editor”. Thanks!
June 5, 2012 at 12:48 pm
hi! do i need to live in the usa to be an editor? thanks
June 5, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Seriously… you don’t even have that covered for? Shouldn’t it simply be you, James, together with somebody else (if anyone)?
June 5, 2012 at 4:10 pm
@guy above me
Gee. Way to be condescending. HE’S the filmmaker here, not you. I’d trust his judgement as to how to handle the film. Most times, no, directors do NOT edit their own films. That’s what film editors are for, and that’s what he’s asking for. Get a clue.
June 5, 2012 at 4:11 pm
What are the requirements to edit the movie?
June 5, 2012 at 4:14 pm
A director who isn’t involved in the full editing process didn’t make the movie. Maybe you should get a clue, Devil_Rising.
June 5, 2012 at 4:17 pm
My guess would be the editing work done by these people would be extremely minor give to save James and company some time. James will certainly be involved in any major edits.
Digital effects, audio, and an assortment of other ‘edits’ require 3-4 people at least. I love it when people complain without knowing how a movie works.
June 5, 2012 at 4:18 pm
I’ve never edited a single thing that mattered in my life. I am completely unqualified and inexperienced.
Sure. I’ll do it.
June 5, 2012 at 4:53 pm
God people now of days are dumb!
Just BECAUSE HE ISN’T EDITING IT, DOESN’T MEAN HE DIDN’T MAKE THE MOVIE! TONS OF FILM MAKERS HAD EDITORS. AND IF THE FILM MAKER ISN’T INVOLVED IN THE EDITING PROCESS, DOESN’T MEAN HE DIDN’T MAKE IT! IF THAT’S TRUE THEN SPIELBERG DIDN’T MAKE JAWS, E.T. OR JURASSIC PARK! NO THE EDITORS DID!
June 5, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Two different people can edit the same movie to be completely different products. If you didn’t edit it, you didn’t really make the movie. It’s as simple as that.
June 5, 2012 at 5:57 pm
before i make my 1st point let me just say that i love it when d-bags like u spend hours defending there unresearched retarded uneducated comments
1st point james wrote,directed and starred in this film, even if he isn’t 100% involved in editing the movie, he still made it. shut the fuck up!!!!
2nd it takes alot of people to edited a full-featured, .there’s music, light, cgi edits, backround edit , cuts , etc. , most of which no one person can be a expert to.
3rd no james didn’t make it, because it takes at least 50 people to make a full feature flim, as a matter fact there were thousands of people who donanted and helped out with the movie. james knows and is grateful for that.
June 5, 2012 at 6:00 pm
We have an editor’s log which is a summary of every setup that we filmed. We also have facing pages which is a longer description of each take, compiled by the script supervisor on set. It’s a visual roadmap of the coverage within each scene. The editor will be assembling the rough cut together, while I’m busy doing other stuff like working on videos for the site. In the end, I sit down, oversee the edit and have the final cut.
June 5, 2012 at 6:30 pm
I wrote a reply, but it just vanished when I posted it…
June 5, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Oftentimes people write on forums that would normally build anger in others. It is a problem that many organizations are trying to fix, but with freedom to post anything you want it is difficult to monitor the situation or solve the problem. I believe bdgfgdfggg is what you call a “troll”. A troll is someone that is bored at home, wants to get a rise out of people, and usually has no guts to say anything to anyone in real life lest he/she be pummeled by the victim to the verbal assault. If you get mad and respond to these “trolls” it fuels the “fire” and the “troll” has won.
Just ignore those fools. They are pathetic pissants whom have no lives.
P.S. Looking forward to any future videos James! Keep up the good work!
June 5, 2012 at 6:47 pm
assuming there are several GB worth of video footage. how would editors acquire the footage in order to edit it? would you have to mail them out hard drives or will editors have to download 50GB worth of data?
also, how will you prevent the footage from leaking before the movie is released? how can you really trust the editors with your precious footage?
June 5, 2012 at 7:07 pm
nmatney353: People like you make me sick. I see it every day: anyone who says anything that idiots such as yourself don’t agree with (usually something insightful) is immediately labeled as a “troll”. It has ruined the entire “value” or “strength” of the term, which used to have a real meaning to describe an actual kind of person. This, in fact, makes you the real troll, but you will never realize it as you are not capable of having an original thought or to think “one step further”.
(Also, again, I wrote a longer reply to James here, but this site glitched out like a NES video game and didn’t post it. I’m not rewriting it because it was not my fault.)
June 5, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Having another set of eyes while editing is the most beneficial thing you can do for a film.
June 5, 2012 at 7:24 pm
TaleSpin: I assume that the editor will have to physically move to a location. He’d be insane to trust some random stranger with his raw film material. And he’s only insanely great.
June 5, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Are you also looking for sound editors if so let me know asap what the requirements for are for the editors job?
June 5, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Aye – what are the requirements? I can edit – but I’m certainly no professional at it (which is what I’m assuming you’re looking for)… But I’d be happy to help out for free if you needed it.
June 5, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Yeah, wish I could help but I don’t believe you are looking for a dude who only knows how to use windows movie maker.
June 5, 2012 at 9:23 pm
if editors are required to move to a location i wonder if expenses are paid? i mean is this a volunteer position or a paid position i wonder.
June 5, 2012 at 9:42 pm
A guy asks for editors, and then the trolls come out.
June 5, 2012 at 9:57 pm
TaleSpin: I know as little as you. In fact, I’m really surprised how short and information-lacking this request is. All the previous requests for people were accompanied by a long list of requirements and disclaimers.
June 5, 2012 at 11:08 pm
@bdgfgdfggg I’m guessing one of the requirements is “experience editing films”, even though it doesn’t say that.
June 6, 2012 at 1:17 am
Hi James, I feel that I am definitely qualified since I’ve worked on a few indie films and have my own web show, but I would like to see your list of requirements before I apply. I’m experienced in editing with all the major programs like Avid, Final Cut, and Adobe Premiere and Premiere is my editor of choice since I can still edit the movie in Premiere and give you an EDL and XML which are completely compatible with Final Cut Pro (which I know you edit with).
I would highly recommend posting a list of basic requirements so you can weed out the windows movie maker and imovie editors. I live in California and have edited in the industry, so I don’t know if you’re willing to send copies of your footage across the country.
In my honest opinion, I believe you should edit the movie yourself, but due to the time constraints, I can understand why you need an editor (or possibly several).
Regardless, I wish the best of luck with you finding an editor. If I can meet the requirements, I’ll probably give it a shot.
June 6, 2012 at 2:50 am
wow entertaining thread. (grabs popcorn)
June 6, 2012 at 3:29 am
Nothing fails to amaze me anymore. I’m sure if people are qualified to be editors they would contact James with their resume and know what kinds of things he will be looking for, and he’d tell you if you’re qualified. NOW people are complaining not only that they are surprised he’s asking for editors, but that he didn’t list all the requirements in his post. I don’t know what happened to the crowd here, but apparently you guys don’t want him to ask his fans to help out. I know if I were qualified I’d help in a heartbeat.
June 6, 2012 at 4:13 am
lol i love how when James speaks its in red like jesus
June 6, 2012 at 4:17 am
Jenny: Logical thinking ain’t your bright side, is it? A vague advertisement will result in countless junk e-mails which means tons of work for James. A strict requirement would weed out all of those right away. He did it before, so why not this time?
June 6, 2012 at 4:55 am
@ random letter combination guy why do you care?
June 6, 2012 at 5:04 am
Steven: Because it makes no sense. James is great and obviously smart, so this just seems too odd to not react on.
June 6, 2012 at 5:05 am
Sure James could do it all then you all would complain about nothing on the site. Sadly not an editor but hopefully more things are needed help with later on
June 6, 2012 at 5:13 am
@ furrydeath iv got a theory on that see people that dont have lives get lonely, so they go on line and bitch, and talk shit to people that do have lives because its the only way they know to get people to talk to them
June 6, 2012 at 5:24 am
and then if the people that do have lives get caught up in arguing with them then before long they have no lives and start do the something its like watching a zombie movie, if we dont do something its going to be the end of the world ……… Of warcraft lol
June 6, 2012 at 5:32 am
it’s very obvious that james trusts us to know if we are qualified enough to edit his movie. please if you know you aren’t qualified for editing james movie don’t email him you are just causeing more work for him and if you want more AVGN and other things that James makes. we should leave the qualified editors to help james and wait for this master piece to be finished!
June 6, 2012 at 5:38 am
I made a documentary for school once using adobe premiere, the editing took a looooooong time. It took us days just to cut the footage with the 5 of us. Then the assembly took me 48 hours with little sleep. Since James made a movie, the footage will be even more enormous so I can see why he hopes to find qualified people to help with his editing.
Obviously he wants to have some time for himself to make other videos for the site to entertain us.
June 6, 2012 at 6:09 am
is it just me or does everyone else hate the what a burger ad that plays before every video?
June 6, 2012 at 6:21 am
rmolina88, it sounds like you’re qualified to me. I’d send your name/resume in along with an idea of how much you’re available to help.
There shouldn’t be any issues with sending footage across the country, because that already has to happen with 1) visual effects & likely 2) music.
My guess is that the footage will be encrypted and you’ll have to sign for delivery of it. Also, we know the extras had to sign NDA’s so surely the editors will as well. James is going to know who leaked it if a couple scenes leak out, since I doubt 1 person will be doing the whole rough cut by themselves.
June 6, 2012 at 8:37 am
I would really love to help you James, but I’m going through a big struggle with my own filmaking, because of my lack of experience at this time I would’nt want to cause your film to be horrible due to my rusty skills
June 6, 2012 at 1:30 pm
I would really love to help too, but I’m dont know nothing about editing. I’m anxious looking foward to see this film when done! Good luck with the movie!
June 6, 2012 at 2:58 pm
“A strict requirement would weed out all of those right away.”
Nope, it doesn’t. People e-mail in anyway. I’ve been involved with the casting and hiring of productions (musicals in particular) and you can put as many “strict requirements” on paper as you want, all manner of people still send in the silliest of CVs in some vain attempt at getting your attention. Take it from me, there’s no point, it doesn’t save time, it doesn’t make the process more efficient, and it’s absolutely useless in the real world.
If you put the word out, you’re gonna get time-wasters. It’s an absolute given. Best you can do, in my experience, is to put the word out then weed through your inbox and respond specifically to those who genuinely are submitting because they know the score. You don’t need to put up the requirements. Those who are professionals *know* what those requirements are, that’s why they’re professionals.
Is it hard work? Fuck yes. Is it worth it? Only if you’re willing to put the hours in to search through the slushpile. And I’m sure James is a bloody expert at that stuff by now.
By the way, out of interest, what’s with the spammy username?
June 6, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Wow… This actually sounds like a good plan. Send raw footage out to a bunch of people and then see what they come up with. I doubt that’s what he’s really going to do (because the whole movie would be leaked in about 2 hours) but it would be an interesting approach.
June 6, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Flinty: I see. I believe you, but it still seems like it would at least clear things up and cause *some* of those useless e-mails to never reach you if you specify the requirements.
As for the “spammy username”, I actually care about my privacy and thus will not use a trackable one.
June 6, 2012 at 5:25 pm
Yeah, I know, it is the logical thing to do and all that. In theory you’re totally right, in fact. I can’t lay claim to presiding over a project as huge as James, but I do know in my own limited experience that sometimes it actually takes more time to word the requirements and sift through the inevitable e-mails than it does to just, you know, sift thought the inevitable e-mails. It’s one of those monotonous tasks that you get really good at doing at two in the morning when you’re half-asleep, whereas writing a carefully-worded post that isn’t necessarily listened to is both frustrating and finicky.
Also, I’ve found sometimes that people who have met my requirements weren’t suited for other reasons, and I missed out on people who didn’t meet all my requirements but would have worked out because they just clicked with the project.
Ah, I now undertsand the spammy username. Just a bit of a bitch to type out when you want to reply to someone and there’s no automated reply feature (and copy and paste on an iPhone is too much like hard work)
Anyway, I hope James finds the right guy/gal for the job.
June 6, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Thank you. You’re post is exactly what I was thinking but didn’t have the time to type it all up.
As for bdgfgdfgg
What I meant exactly in my post, since it was illogical to you, was that if you put up a vague request then it forces people to email you saying what exactly you have qualifications in and he’s able to pick and choose from people not based solely on a strict list of requirements. Look, I’m not saying you’re in the wrong, other than making that snide remark about how “logical thinking ain’t my bright side”, I guess I can think logically on both sides of the issue instead of just one.
June 6, 2012 at 10:48 pm
I want to help
June 6, 2012 at 11:49 pm
whats fucked up is, one would think that given the comical nature of james’s videos the people that comment on the site would have a since of humor, and be fun to talk to. Sadly every time i come here its just a bunch of bitching and arguing. Lighten up people fuck, this shit is not that serious and life is not that bad
June 7, 2012 at 12:10 am
Steven: Maybe your life isn’t that bad. Maybe our lives are shit and James’ videos are the only light in our lives. Maybe we cry ourselves to sleep every night that there isn’t a new video posted by Cinemassacre? Ever considered that?
June 7, 2012 at 1:28 am
scientific method= control point. Fix yourself
June 7, 2012 at 6:00 pm
james, i kind of think this is a bad idea. you should probably go with someone you can trust. i feel that if you go through with this, the movie will get leaked.
June 8, 2012 at 12:15 am
I totally agree. I am glad that you’re looking out for his best interests, so I give you props. =)
June 8, 2012 at 5:05 am
Didn’t we donate 300k+ for this film? surely you can afford a good and trusting editor for this film James..
June 8, 2012 at 8:31 am
I am kind of surprised. I figured James would want to edit “his baby” himself. I don’t think anyone expects a rough cut before 2013.
June 8, 2012 at 8:32 am
I’d love to offer to edit, but I have too much on my plate to commit any time. If you’re still looking for editors in November, I’ll send you an e-mail.
June 8, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Too bad I’m from Europe, I would be delighted to help…
June 8, 2012 at 7:31 pm
I just linked this on another site with editors…you know…the number of comments on this is downright puny…makes me wonder how big the comment bomb will be when he releases a new AVGN episode…Well, all the same, good luck James.
June 9, 2012 at 7:38 am
I really think you should leave this to professional editors, or the connections that you know, having fans do editing would be kind of bad.
1. Bad profit, perhaps.
2. Might end up in a bad result
You would get more negatives than positives.
June 9, 2012 at 1:08 pm
i use windows movie maker, i’m a newb can i help edit?
June 9, 2012 at 6:15 pm
Excited man! Can’t wait for a short theatre run or Blu ray release! James you rock!
June 11, 2012 at 1:31 am
Wow this bgfgjghsdaj guy has been flaming over a week now because he can’t understand what an editor is. What a no-life and useless individual.
June 11, 2012 at 2:01 am
Been a big fan for years now. But when I seen you posting to allow people on the net to edit you biggest show yet I had to register and beg you to reconsider the plans of allowing random people editing your movie. I’m afraid of what might happen if the wrong person get a hold of it. I know many others think this is a bad idea and would like you to play it safe and find a more trusted editor you might know or can trust. Good luck man.
June 11, 2012 at 7:44 am
I have to agree with everyone else,
its great that the James would like to have his fans involved with the movie, but on the other hand it might get leaked. I dont see it turning out bad because of other people working on it, I mean come on people its jam’es movie Im pretty sure hes going to want to watch it over and over to see if its good or not. Like I said my only concern is that the movie will somehow get leaked. I want to see it when it done and ready.
make me a damn COFFEE!!!!
June 11, 2012 at 4:14 pm
@ caffeineoverdose ok but you getting decaff lol
June 12, 2012 at 1:37 am
I sent a sent a message about it.
June 12, 2012 at 9:36 am
No! no decaff, I like my sugar with coffee and cream! “mike d”
Does anyone else have the Mortal Combat theme song play in there head when that drink lots of coffee….. ????
Think about it.
June 12, 2012 at 11:38 am
@Caffeineoverdose No – I play the sonic the hedgehog (SEGA) music (Invisible)
June 12, 2012 at 3:39 pm
roadrash 3 for me bro
June 13, 2012 at 2:49 am
I don’t know how to edit, but i’d be glad to translate the script into Danish if you’re considering international subtitles on the DVD/Blu-Ray release.
June 13, 2012 at 3:19 am
Oh man !! I feel useless mentioning it, since i wont have time, but I would of loved to work on the Sound Editing. Wish I had more time to spare this summer….
As for the folks worried about scenes,spoilers, etc… being leaked: I`m aware that it`s possible, but I`m pretty sure James is already legally prepared in case this situation arises.
June 13, 2012 at 7:42 am
I really think you should edit the movie yourself, James… only you can cut the movie the way it was meant to be. If you need assistance, just ask someone you feel qualified enough, or try contacting a professionnal, I don’t know, but asking random people on the internet just doesn’t seem right (to me).
Regarding what “ItsTheTie” said, I don’t know if you have plans to include subtitles for the DVD/BD release, but I would love to work on French subtitles if you were to ask the community to do it.
Anyway, good luck!
June 13, 2012 at 12:17 pm
I am sure James will do a thorough interview of any editor that he hires. Also, what makes you guys think that he has an editor that he “trusts”.
June 13, 2012 at 8:43 pm
@coolman756 – I would like to add my opinion, as an anglophone who studies French, that I agree with coolman that French subtitles are important (as well as spanish!) and I would love to see French subtitles included, although I am not the best to help as a native speaker would be a better.
June 14, 2012 at 12:31 am
@mrgoat86 For subtitles, I think all languages should be included, I wonder what happens if this approaches to a chinese audience, but I think majority of the subtitles will go to French and Spanish.
June 14, 2012 at 3:47 pm
Why is everyone making assumptions based on this tiny post? Do you really think James is dumb enough to send his unedited movie to some stranger? Geeze guys. Have you not seen the work that’s going into this. Give him some credit.
Who knows what exactly he’s looking for from this post? Answer: none of us. Maybe there are going to be some small in movie vignette’s t that he wants some help putting together. Quick cut always, or fake commercials or movie trailer or something. Maybe there are some BTS or DVD features he could use some extra hands on. it could be anything!
The man knows what he’s doing. Stand down nerds.
June 14, 2012 at 4:38 pm
The people giving James a hard time with the editor call should back off. You turly do not understand the amount of time it takes to make a film. I’ve never done a feature but I can tell you I have done several short films and they are ususlly around 5-1`0 minutes. And by myself I put in about 40-50 hours with of work planning, writing., directing, editing, producing and so on. I could only imagine the amount fo time it takes to do a feature. Plus you do think James has thought about this before posting? Give the guy some credit and shut up. Be thankfulm this project is even in the works and let the man work and do what he wants with his film. \
James, I emailed you a short list of stuff I have worked on. I would be honored to help out with this film in any way possible.
June 15, 2012 at 12:04 am
June 16, 2012 at 6:36 am
June 16, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Good luck with the movie!
June 16, 2012 at 11:54 pm
I wish I could help, but my editing skills are still in the beginning stages…
June 17, 2012 at 9:59 pm
James knows what he is doing, trust him.
June 19, 2012 at 6:47 am
Like some people have said before me, James is just sending out a little request, to see if any of the members of this site are professional editors and would like to help. And all the people that think he’d trust ONE PERSON with the whole rough cut are insane, it’s a feature film for god’s sake, and feature films don’t just have one “master editor” who ends up with all the footage and would have the ability to leak it. no, editing in movies is done by a large group of people, and they would all be working on little snippets, plus they would have all signed NDA’s, and even if they did leak their little snippet, it would be a very small part, and they’d get sued the crap out of.
I think that overall, putting this request here was a good idea, yes he will get a fair wad of junkmail from people who just learned to play with WMM, but at least there is a chance of finding someone to help be on the editing team.
And I’m very glad there’s some people here offering to do subtitles, any native speaker of Danish, French, Spanish etc. who can speak enough English is more than qualified to do subtitles IMO, and it’s great that there are fans willing to do it, rather than having to pay a pro translator.
June 21, 2012 at 6:02 am
I could do the finnish subtitles since I speak both languages fluidly. We have a big fan base in Finland too so I think it would be a could idea to translate it to Finnish. I’ve already sent you an email, but the translation part wasn’t in that.
June 29, 2012 at 2:57 am
I would definitely like to help out in editing. Even for just a small scene. I’ve edited several videos before, but I’ve never done a feature film. I completely understand if I don’t qualify.
Maybe it’s even too late to volunteer myself for this as this was posted on June 5th. It would be awesome to be given the chance to help out, even for a very small part of it.
I’ll send an email showing some of my work.
July 3, 2012 at 8:23 pm
I could do the German Subtitles for you, it’s my mother language and my english is by now, also pretty natural for me.
Would really like to help.
Send you a mail.
July 17, 2012 at 12:52 am
can you review the series of movies REVENGE OF THE NERDS?
this would actually be a perfect film series to review for you! i am surprised you guys haven’t yet done it.
July 24, 2012 at 1:42 am
The average feature length film has an editorial staff of around 20-25 people, the Avengers, for example, had 29 chief editors before you got down to the smaller jobs. Assuming that James is going to do the entire edit all on his own is moronic at best. Those of you insisting this should be the case clearly don’t want the movie coming out anytime soon.
James reaching out to fans to fill those needed positions it’s some horrible crime against nature.
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