Mike / October 31st, 2011
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October 31, 2011 at 1:35 am
Happy Effin’ Halloween James!
October 31, 2011 at 1:42 am
YO HAPPY HALLOWWEEEENNNIIEEE JAMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
October 31, 2011 at 1:45 am
great next year do a count of international films, I recommend a couple of very good Mexican movies
October 31, 2011 at 1:51 am
Great monster madness this year James, and happy Halloween!
I’m gonna miss your nightly reviews James
October 31, 2011 at 1:56 am
Was that Flip the Frog?
another month of awesomeness has come and gone… makes me sad. anyway… HAPPY HALLOWEEN EVERYONE!!!
October 31, 2011 at 2:02 am
That cartoon you showed at the end looks better than these 2 pieces of shit. I can’t believe you enjoy them on any level. They’re as bad as Resurrection.
Out of the rush of horror remakes the last few years these are probably the best. A Nightmare on Elm Street was the worst and Friday the 13th was in the middle. I still can’t bring myself to watch them again though. I don’t want to spend half the movie watching him walk around as a kid. The only thing that would have made the Friday the 13th worse for me is spending 45 minutes following pre-drowning Jason Voorhees around.
October 31, 2011 at 2:04 am
Aww man now I gotta wait another year for more of this awesomeness. Great year James!
We have a halloween tradition in our house now of watching that year’s monster madness’ in a row on halloween night. Thank you for that.
October 31, 2011 at 2:08 am
Thanks so much for this. I thought the new movies were, as you said, breaths of fresh air (albeit fecund air). I will enjoy my Halloween. Let the scary times commence. Everyone enjoy your Halloween fests.
October 31, 2011 at 2:09 am
*fecund. I meant shit smelling air. Wrong word
October 31, 2011 at 2:11 am
Great review James! Totally agree with you on the remakes. They’re good movies, but very different than the original Halloween. Still, it’s a great watch and probably one of the better remakes. Happy Halloween James and congrats on another year of Monster Madness!
October 31, 2011 at 2:12 am
Happy Halloween, Mother Fucker!
October 31, 2011 at 2:17 am
Fuck You Derek Fisher and your First Five California commercials! What, it’s not enough you’ve delayed basketball for me, now you’ve gotta delay my AVGN too!??? FU!
October 31, 2011 at 2:20 am
I had to watch this review again because it was hard to remember exactly how I felt the when I watched the remakes for the first time (I was on really heavy doses of heavy duty anxiety medication).
I’m going to start by saying that I appreciate what Rob Zombie was trying to do with his films. He was trying to make something completely different. He succeeded. Not only does the film feel different, sound different, look different, and have characters play out differently, it does it well. Creating a more sympathetic Michael Myers was an interesting take. Don’t get me wrong, he’s still an EVIL motherfucker, but you can at least understand how he came to be this way.
The way Rob Zombie fleshed out the main triad of characters (Michael Myers, Laurie Strode, Dr. Loomis) was great. I felt like it was a pretty organic transition that I can see actually happening.
I liked the ending to part 2. It reminds me of Halloween 4 and all the potential it had. I doubt there’s going to be a sequel to this (and there really shouldn’t) but if there is, I’d like to see this idea expanded on.
Now, as much nice stuff I have to say about the movies, they didn’t “do it” for me. While I applaud Rob Zombie’s attempt (and success) at making something new and different, it just didn’t strike the right nerves. Maybe it’s because I don’t care for exploitation or grindhouse flicks. No, that’s exactly what it is; I just don’t care for grindhouse films.
Overall, great effort put forth by Mr. Zombie. It didn’t exactly “work” for me, but I give credit where credit is due.
And does everyone agree that Danielle Harris grew up to be really *fucking* hot?
October 31, 2011 at 2:22 am
I am quite curious, I have seen all the Monster Madness’s but I have yet to see footage from the Hellraiser franchise, let alone ever heard you even mention it, if I recall correctly.
I know you have heard of it at least, but you may not seem to be a fan of Clive Barker. I believe this franchise to be one that depicts true graphic horror. It’s one of the franchises that still tend to scare me now and then. I saw the first 3 when I was young and was pretty much scared shit less.
Have you seen them at all and what do you think of them as a franchise.
I ask this now because the latest one was released last month and is the first to not star Doug Bradley as Pinhead. However the only reason it was made was for Dimension to keep the rights to the franchise in hopes of the remake, which has been in talks for well over 10 years.
Anyway what’s your take?
October 31, 2011 at 2:24 am
wow part 2 looks like rob was on some serious stuff. Thanks again for monster madness cant wait for next year.
October 31, 2011 at 2:26 am
Thanks so much James! I’m so appreciative – I’m sad it’s over – I’m guessing you’re not!
Happy Halloween – until next year? Hope so. Take a breather man – you earned it! Cheers amigo!
October 31, 2011 at 2:27 am
James does review Hellraiser. Check out Monster Madness 2009 -2010. It’s number 25 on the list.
October 31, 2011 at 2:30 am
This has been an awesome year, truly remarkable amount of work James/Mike… Eagerly awaiting for next years’ MM
October 31, 2011 at 2:31 am
Congratulations on another great Monster Madness… I think I learned the most about the Frankenstein movies, though those videos were a bit longer than the rest.
Perhaps next year we’ll see a portion on God Damn Gamera!
October 31, 2011 at 2:40 am
James actually has at the very least mentioned Pinhead not all that long ago, when he was reviewing Freddy vs Jason.
October 31, 2011 at 2:43 am
Happy Halloween to James and that motherfucker Mike! thanks for another wonderful and informative Monster Madness!
October 31, 2011 at 2:45 am
I wish he would talk more about the Hellraiser franchise, but it seems as though it isn’t one of his favorite ranking up their with Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday the 13th etc. I believe it to be an overlooked franchise by many people.
By the way Doug Bradley aka Pinhead is one of the few horror icons to reprise his role as a horror villain other than Robert Englund.
October 31, 2011 at 2:51 am
Great reviews as usual!
Next year you could review the Omen movies. Just a suggestion.
October 31, 2011 at 2:59 am
Hopefully, next year will be something like Child’s Play or Friday the 13th. Kick Ass reviews like always. Happy Halloween James.
October 31, 2011 at 3:00 am
I like some of Rob Zombies older music. Specifically, I like the last two White Zombie albums (mostly just Astro Creep, which was the most solid), and his first two solo albums (though again, mostly Hellbilly Deluxe, which I felt was more creative). But I’m sorry to say I am not a fan, whatsoever, of his films. To me, he reminds me in many ways of a horror version of Quentin Terrantino, and I honestly can’t stand that guys work (or Robert Rodriguez) either. The problem with Rob, and it relates, I feel, to those other directors, is that they’re just out to do what they feel is “shocking”, and they often go FAR too overboard, or just plain too far, in trying to do so.
The only Zombie film I bothered watching was “House of 1000 Corpses”, because I was a fan of his music and wanted to support his new film endeavor. However, I really wish I hadn’t. The plot, if you want to call it that, was a miserable mess, that never truly went anywhere nor made any real sense. And the “horror” elements to it….I don’t know. It was basically just, to me, a bad knock off of “Texas Chainsaw”, and really, that’s pretty bad to be a knockoff of an already (to me at least) bad movie. I appreciate Rob’s love of all things horror, I really do. But I just don’t care for his style of films. Perhaps if he did something that appealed more to my tastes, maybe even a black and white emulation of the old Hollywood classics or something, and toned down the ridiculous and gory a bit, I might give it a whirl. But I doubt he’ll do that.
But hey, that’s me. Great job, as always, James! Happy Halloween everybody.
October 31, 2011 at 3:03 am
What is that cartoon at the end?
Happy Halloween everybody!
I will miss the Monster Madness!
October 31, 2011 at 3:06 am
Happy Halloween to all! I loved this Monster Madness, and it has become something that I genuinely look forward to all year. I think that perhaps next year, you should review modern horror films. Movies like “Paranormal Activity” and “Hatchet.” I love your views on Horror films of the past, but it makes me far more curious about what you think of certain horror movies today and the overall state of the genre now…
October 31, 2011 at 3:10 am
The thing I loved about the original Halloween movies (1,2) was the Mystique of Michael. He was just pure Evil, there was no explenation why , ,he was just pure Evil. I think the decision to give av explenation was just stupid, Rob Zombies movies looks good thou
worth noting that they arent done making these halloween movies but rob zombie has walked away from any further movies
October 31, 2011 at 3:16 am
I personally loved the song they chose for the opening chase in the hospital. “nights in white satin” was always one of my favourite songs and it’s so missfitting in that movie that it actually worked brilliantly.
Thanks for the great month James and Mike!
October 31, 2011 at 3:18 am
I’m actually a fan of House of 1000 Corpses. I like the Halloween atmosphere,and it’s pretty funny.
October 31, 2011 at 3:31 am
Out of alllllll the horror remakes I’m really pleased with Rob Zombies Halloween (well maybe with a 40 minute skip). It’s like taking the original ans cranking it up to the point it’s almost a caricature, but a good one. Feels like something more at the time. LOVED McDowells perhormance and the deeper explanatianion on the masks origin.
H2, you said it WEEEEIIRD! But still quite pleasing!
October 31, 2011 at 3:35 am
*Sigh* No more monster madness……Awesome awesome month. I really dont mind Zombies Remakes. The first one I thought was pretty good. I didnt get the second one. I also felt that showing SOOOOOO much of him as a kid really damaged the mystery about who and why he really is and does what he does. It also slowed the movie.
October 31, 2011 at 3:39 am
I think anyone can tell that you put a lot of effort into this year’s Monster Madness, as always. It was well worth the watch and thank you for doing what no-one else does!
October 31, 2011 at 3:58 am
I just have to say this, since its so absurd!!!
As a kid I watched the “Bassie & Adriaan” series. It’s a non-animated dutch kidshow about a clown and a acrobat going at adventure. This show was shot trhough the 80s and 90s.
Now here is the weird thing: the theme of ‘danger’, like if they were hiding from the villain, rushing to get in time somewhere or finding out something evil, IS THE THEME OF THE HALLOWEEN MOVIE!
As a kid, I didn’t know that, but I always thought it was a f*cking scary theme which got into my nerves…
To bad the producers deletes every episode of the series on youtube, but I am not the only one who knows about this team in this KIDSHOW.
I thought the last Rob Zombie Halloween ended with Lori in Hospital seeing her dead mothers Ghost which insinuated she was to become a killer like Michael?
Also would love to see a sequel-thon type monster madness next year but focused on the Friday the 13th series and the Child’s Play series.
October 31, 2011 at 4:02 am
I think Michael’s “death” in H2 is a bit brain teaser. My theory is, that he really died in the first movie and Laurie is the killer the whole time. It makes sense if you think about the ending where she’s locked up in a mental hospital and have weird grin on her face. In other ending she comes out from the shack wearing Michael’s mask and a knife and other ending she picks up Michael’s knife from his hand and she gets shot. So Michael on the ground might be just her imagination.
October 31, 2011 at 4:12 am
great monster madness, once again, but sooner or later you’ll be struggling to pick films to review, i only hope that you’ll continue to do it to get to that point
October 31, 2011 at 4:16 am
happy Halloween James! i just wanted to throw out there when i saw it in theaters i saw a different ending that ommitted him being killed by the knife or being blasted by the cops where he is shot by 1 rifle and that it he goes down dead as fuck i remember this clearly 1 because i was super pissed off that he gets killed in such a cheap ass way given that hes been shot and stabbed like 1000 times in all of the other movies and nothing he walks it off and now this one bullet and hes dead what the hell also i worked in a movie theatre so i watched the ending roughly 50 times in a week so i just was cuerious if anyone else remembers seeing a slightly different variation of the ending??
ps if you ever review “parinormal activity” pleas have AVGN review it because the only way to describe that movie is worse then a buffalo’s dihareha dump
Joe from IL
October 31, 2011 at 4:22 am
I fell asleep early last night so I’m just waking up. So nice to wake up to this and a nice big peice of pumpkin pie from my girlfriend, complete with cool whu-hip.
James, you are the man.
October 31, 2011 at 4:27 am
Also, for some weird reason, I always need to listen to the last “It’s Cinemassacre’s MONNSTTER MADNESS” episode at full volume.
Probably stems from a few years back where they got more and more ridiculous as the season progressed.
“It’s Cinemassacre’s Monster Madness.”
“It’s Cinemassacre’s MONNNSTTER MADNUSSSSSSSSSSSSS”
October 31, 2011 at 4:39 am
If you get a chance, apparently “Devil’s Rejects” Is legitimately a good movie.
House of 1000 Corpses.. I really wanted to like it but felt similar feelings to you. So did almost everyone I know who likes movies.
Devil’s Rejects, however, was surprisingly liked by a lot of people I would not have expected.
Maybe it’s a good movie to give a chance on Halloween even though I don’t think it’s really horror so much.
October 31, 2011 at 5:04 am
Man. I can’t believe it’s over. Another great month of Monster Madness. Can’t wait until next year!
October 31, 2011 at 5:16 am
I’ve watched both with the commentary on, H2 isn’t supposed to be about Michael its about Laurie’s decent in to madness. Rob Zombie has always said at least for his 2 that Michael can talk he has just chosen not to. Obviously for Halloween 3-D they are going to ignore the unrated ending, because Rob’s explanation of the ending is it is the death of all 3, she isn’t in a hospital its the last images that went through her mind before she dies. Just like the way the while hospital beginning is just a dream it didn’t happen. Rob zombie has always maintained though that H2 is about laurie and not michael
October 31, 2011 at 6:00 am
I actually loved the remake, easily the best since the original. Going into this review I had sworn that I hadn’t even seen the sequel. Then, a lot of that rung a bell Which I guess means I have. The fact I had forgotten I had seen it doesn’t speak well for it, I guess.
October 31, 2011 at 6:01 am
Awesome work, James! Thanks for a entertaining month.
BTW just finished watching Hammer’s Dracula films
October 31, 2011 at 6:07 am
I liked how in his first remake the girls wear HH school jackets-
Rob Zombie went to school in Haverhill, Massachusetts (my home town)
Haverhill High School
I can’t say he put in the movie on purpose or if its just a coincidence
but I thought it was kinda cool
October 31, 2011 at 6:13 am
I loved the rob zombie halloweens especially the first one ! well anyways this was an awesome monster madness . thanks james
October 31, 2011 at 6:20 am
Thanks for another great year of Monster Madness James!
October 31, 2011 at 6:27 am
I gotta say I like the Rob Zombie versions better than the original 1978 film, largely due to the new Michael Myers being a a badass and having a plausible backstory. And the new Laurie is actually a very convincing teenager, whereas the original Laurie seemed like she was played by a 24 year old woman.
October 31, 2011 at 6:30 am
I preferred Micheal Myers when he killed ‘just because’, for no reason.
The ‘disfunctional family’ reason is somewhat cheap and makes him less scary.
The original Micheal grew up in a nice family in suburbia right of the ‘American Dream’… and suddenly he kills his mom!
During the movie you have this sense of dread from a killer who turned to killing for no apparent reason.
As James said the reviews of the sequels, the more explaination they give the worse it gets.
I agree that R. Zombie sucks as movie goes… except The Devil’s Rejects which is actually one of my all time favorites…. well I guess the Devil’s Rejects makes up for all the other shitty movies.
Also: FUCK REMAKES! Except for some very rare occasion (like Carpenter’s The Thing) remakes suck… and show a lack of creativity and ideas.
October 31, 2011 at 6:53 am
I guess I’m the opposite on this one. I like Rob Zombie’s movies (except for Halloween II and El Superbeasto) and hate his music. Yeah his movies are stupid and Zombie seems to have a bigger fetish for hicks than Stephen King’s but as far as gore factor goes they’re quite excellent.
October 31, 2011 at 6:55 am
great Job james, That was an awesome Monster madness, Happy Halloween
October 31, 2011 at 6:57 am
That H2 ending doesn’t happen on my DVD… :S
October 31, 2011 at 7:04 am
Good stuff, James!
Happy fuckin’ Halloween!
October 31, 2011 at 7:15 am
I loved the first remake, i really like how zombie made it his own. The 2nd movie well not so much.
October 31, 2011 at 7:21 am
Thanks for this years Monster Madness James and Im already waiting for the next one and I hope you will continue with these more detailed and longer MM videos. Happy Halloween!
October 31, 2011 at 7:47 am
Great job, James and Mike. I really feel like Zombie’s Halloween movies work best if you consider them one film in 2 parts, rather then 2 films.
When the first came out, i liked it. I didn’t think it was super spectacular, but it was a very solid re-imagining of the original (though the 2nd half really felt rushed.) I didn’t much care for Laurie in the first, as a standalone.
However, once that 2nd one came out, and you saw what Zombie was trying to do, suddenly i fell in LOVE with Scout Taylor-Compton’s Laurie Strode. The character arc for the 4 major characters (Laurie, Loomis, Sheriff Brackett and Annie) was really bold and ambitious filmmaking, especially for what i am sure most figured would be a throw-away sequel in a trashy, over-bloated franchise. That 2nd film is the best HALLOWEEN film since Carpenter’s original, imo!
Same comment relates to the musical cues. I agree, LOVE HURTS seemed out of place in the first film, but then with the 2nd, as the screen fades to black on the creepy-half smile of now-insane Laurie, and Nan Vernon’s haunting cover of “Love Hurts” starts playing over the credits… That hit me like a 10 ton truck full of emotional gravitas.
I gained a whole new world of respect for Rob Zombie with these movies.
Really really great take on HALLOWEEN.
October 31, 2011 at 7:49 am
Also, as far as the endings go:
Yes the theatrical cut and (most? ) dvds have different endings.
Theatrical cut ends with Laurie walking out of the shed with Michael’s mask on, then she takes it off and collapses to her knees. Final shot seems to be her in some form of psych-ward, seeing the white horse and her mother. Implication: She is the new Michael.
The DVD cut has her being shot and killed in the end, though we still get that scene that appears to be in a psych ward. The implication seems to be that, yes, she had gone insane but mercifully she will die and end her suffering.
Personally i liked the theatrical ending better.
October 31, 2011 at 7:51 am
I detested Zombie’s first remake so much that I have absolutely no interest in seeing the 2nd one. Since his films are so predictably over the top I had a pretty good idea of the end result, which this video only further verified. The Halloween franchise really lost its way. What originally started out as truly terrifying cinema has devolved into nothing more than laughable plot lines filled with one-liners and cheap kills. Basically a poor imitation of the F13 series.
Nowadays I find myself appreciating the F13 and Nightmare franchises much more due to the simple fact they are nearly always are true to form. Jason flicks consistently have a zombie-looking maniac with great kills. Freddy flicks consistently have a dude killing in dreamworld with an emphasis on visual FX. Some people would consider this the negative quality of staleness but I see it as reliability. They each kind of build off their previous installment and take logical steps. Whereas Halloween has gone in a million directions with a million variations of its villain – none of which match Michael’s original incarnation in greatness.
At least the F13 remake was more or less a continuation of the series and the Nightmare remake was true to form (albeit TOO true to form at times). The Halloween remake(s) was Grizzly Adams on a killing spree. Neither true to the original nor part of a natural progression. At this point in the series, I’ve given up. The only thing that would make Michael Myers entertaining again would be a versus type popcorn flick.
October 31, 2011 at 7:52 am
Once again, a GREAT Monster Madness this year. I agree with all the reviews. Keep more like these coming every Halloween. Makes my day go by MUCH better!
October 31, 2011 at 8:01 am
Thanks for the finale, James. I am surprised, however, that you didn’t mention the fact that Halloween 2 basically rips off Friday The 13th part 2. What does Jason do in the sequel? He kills for mommy. What does Michael do in Zombie’s Halloween sequel? He kills for mommy. What the fuck, man?! Rob Zombie’s version of the Halloween franchise is just horrible and incoherent. In fact every Rob Zombie movie I’ve seen has been horrible. And if you want to talk music I think the only good stuff he ever did was when he was in White Zombie. But I don’t want to get on a rant so I will leave everyone here with a Happy Halloween. I hope everyone has a good and safe one. : )
October 31, 2011 at 8:10 am
This remake SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKED and i curse it and all who enjoy this wretched film fuck this movie and fuck the asshole who thinks its better than the original go yank your dick out of your ass
rob zombie makes shitty movies derp derp im gonna make a fucked up movies and its gonna be badass
fuck that guy
October 31, 2011 at 8:19 am
james, great job this year on Monster Madness. This has been one of my favorite ones you’ve done. Looked forward to it everyday. Now, go take a well deserved break.
October 31, 2011 at 8:21 am
Thanks for a great month of Monster Madness, James!
October 31, 2011 at 8:24 am
ROB ZOMBIE’S HALLOWEEN AND IT’S SEQUEL ARE THE ONLY REMAKES THAT CARED FOR. STILL PREFER THE ORIGINAL BUT………
these films were pretty damn good. I saw these in theatre. they were entertaining, and rob made them disturbing, and Micheal was brutal, and Malcom Mcdowell played Dr Loomis like his own. In the first he was a good guy, 2 he was an asshole. cleverly done, but not as good as the original.
October 31, 2011 at 8:31 am
JAMES, GREAT REVIEW, YOUR BEST. YOU COVERED MY FAVORITE MONSTER FILMS FRANKENSTEIN, HAMMER’S DRACULA, ANT THE HALLOWEEN SERIES. THANK YOU AND…….HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!!!
October 31, 2011 at 8:38 am
I like how you quoted the orginal Halloween. I watched the classic one last night infact, the same way you suggested people do in your review of that film. No trick-or-treaters outside because it was only Halloween Eve, and I didn’t have a pumpkin lit. I don’t know how to carve one. So I had a harvest candle lit instead. And at the end of the film, I went and looked outside my door while listening to the Halloween music. It was very cool, and if I was younger when I did that, I would have been scared. lol.
Thank you for this suggestion James, and thank you for another great year of Monster Madness. It’s been fun.
I will be going out partying tonight for Halloween on downtown Austin, Texas on 6th street among thousands of other people. I am going to send you some pictures of my Halloween costume by the way. I hope you’ll like it.
Happy Halloween to all, and to all a good night!
October 31, 2011 at 8:46 am
Happy Fucking Halloween, James!
a post-DOTM Transformers movieverse fanfic
October 31, 2011 at 8:54 am
IT”S OVER WAHHHHHHHHHH ;(
Gotta say the remake was great but I like my evil sans back story. Giving Mike a viable back story was as stupid as the whole Thorn plot from the Pink Panther series. Loomis, time and time again stressed that he was EVILLLL plain and simple. Evil needs no cause, since with cause we get some idea of why and that diminishes the “Hell I might be next ” feeling. But Mike did seem like the type of dude you would never want to meet so much more in Zombie’s version than in Carpenter’s. Both were great but I’ll treat it like Earth-2 Halloween where Mike is just a fucked up kid. The True Mike is just EVIL.
I recommend “Trick r Treat” as a great newish Halloween movie ( that’s the holiday not the series). To whomever hasn’t watched it yet tonight’s the night. It’s like an adult Tree house of Terror with the 3 sub-stories type of design.
HAPPY HALLOWEEN EVERYBODY
Thanks a lot James.
But its gonna suck getting used to non-daily posts again
October 31, 2011 at 8:59 am
“Trick r Treats” on netflix by the way.
October 31, 2011 at 9:08 am
Good looking out for the whole month of Oktober James.MONSTER MADNESS RULES!!!!!!!!!!! Viva Cinemassacre!!!!! Keep doing what you do because I really look foward to checking all your posts. Bravo Bravo…Kudos….
October 31, 2011 at 9:15 am
I do agree with most of what you said about the first movie, except for a few things: I really don’t like many characters that Rob Zombie makes (in any of his movies). Most of them come across as mean-spirited jerks. I’m sorry, but I can’t find them likeable in any way. The character of Michael (or Jason) I find likeable because they are mysterious (they don’t talk obnoxiously) and they are the monster, or boogeyman, lurking in the dark. The disfunctional family was very cliche and just gave Michael a reason to kill (eliminating most of the mystery that was such an effective part of the character). Lorrie I prefer as the nice, caring babysitter instead of the airheaded-like personality (which made her not much different from the other girls). This could work in sme ways, but I still like her more in the original. (I hated 1000 Corpses AND Devil’s Rejects) I thought this first Halloween was still a great remake; the second one I didn’t like nearly as much (maybe for the reason James said) but Michael in both movies is just as scary as he ever was.
This is just my opinion, so please done attack me with angry responses
October 31, 2011 at 9:16 am
Happy fucking Halloween, and all that good shit! Thanks for working on this years’ Monster Madness once again James, you did an awesome job.
I already mentioned my view on Zombies’ first movie, I find it to be good to watch despite any shortcommings it may have, at least it’s better than all those damn sequels.
Now the second one…I really feel like it was some other movie and had the Halloween name slapped on and the characters appropriately renamed. It could have very well been something else. It’s a huge mix of weird things. I can buy the fact that Michael see visions of his mother, let’s suppose they ommited those in the first one, but Laurie? Why? Also, the characters with the exception of the 3 main ones are insignificant. What’s more puzzling is what the creative process must have been to actually write this thing, total weirdness. The Manson family has had more influence on this one than anything else. I don’t care too much for the ending, hope it doesn’t spawn a sequel. What I did enjoy though was the feel of it actually being Halloween, like James said, and I loved the touch of Rocky Horror Picture Show, the costumes of the three girls going to the party.
All in all, it’s a non-Halloween Halloween sequel!!! Thinking back to it now (and having watched all the movies this week, with the exception of the first two, I’ve saved them for today) I am really suprised and agree with some of the above comments, Michael has turned into a Jason rip-off. And it’s very very easy to understand why. In a genre where the easiest thing you can do is to up the bodycount and gore, the hardest thing to do is create a sense of eerie, creepy and spooky atmosphere, not to mention that it needs talent, and hey, there’s only one John Carpenter, at least we’ll always have the original.
Happy Hallloween people!!!
October 31, 2011 at 9:18 am
Since I forgot to mention him, I do like Freddy Krueger. He does talk but he has a dark backstory and he was a creative killer. He is also like the boogeyman who lurks in the dark, like the other two.
October 31, 2011 at 9:24 am
Hey James, just few word’s on these one’s as I am aswell a a big fan of Rob Zombie.
Rob Zombie is a big fan of americas serial killers like gein or fish, anyways…what I mean is that he wanted to make Michael as a serial killer that looks very alike a typical one from the worlds horror history of killers.he had put few of the old ones and miced up with the most popular ones.
he stabs his victims and he is very repetitive in stabbing and hitting people even after they are dead only because it is a moment of high tension and he as a killer is connectin with the weapon and the corpse itself…too long type of a talk.
the thing is that I wanned to give you few words on the Polish dvd release as I am from Poland and bought the special edition not so long time ago for my film collection.
The ending is different and I knew about the alternative ending but somehow I dont remember that it is included on the special bonuses, and the ending that there is is the one with myers being stabbed by boo.
I dont also remember myers been so much shown in this release, there are few glimses and a bit you can see it but everything is dark as shit and you cant really know how he looks anyways even though the quality is fucking great.
well all in all this is a great thing Rob did something good and that his movies go on to be better and better, now he’s working on Lords Of Salem and I hope it will kick ass as all his work yet done.
Cheers James and Happy Halloween !
October 31, 2011 at 9:46 am
James, thank you so much for this year’s Sequel-a-Thon. Holloween just isnt the same without Cinemassacre’s Monster Madness. I was an average horror fan but you have converted me into a full fledged monster fanatic. Great work. Keep it coming, and a happy FUCKIN Halloween .. all hail James ‘the nerd’ Rolfe.
October 31, 2011 at 9:57 am
Hey James, quick question, what music do you use in the ending of this monster madness episode? I’d love to know, because I’ve heard it a million times and don’t know its name
October 31, 2011 at 10:15 am
James,Happy Halloween and thanks for mentioning Weird Al Yankovic! I am a fan of his work and have actually MET the guy backstage during his summer 2010 tour.I got his autograph and a photo with him! Also, I might be performing with Weird Al as a storm trooper for “The Saga Begins” Song!
PS – I actually got Stan Lee to sign my copy of Angry Video Game Nerd DVD Volume 2 at New York Comic Con!
October 31, 2011 at 10:21 am
I would also like to be in your movie. I have experience acting with Yoostar 2 in the movies for Kinect if that counts. Also, I am an Eagle Scout! Eagle Scout is the highest rank in Boy Scouts.
October 31, 2011 at 10:29 am
Happy Halloween James and all the Cinemassacre fans. Thanks a bunch for another stellar Monster Madness MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
October 31, 2011 at 10:46 am
I’m kind of glad Monster Madness is over so I don’t have to watch this damn Assassin’s Creed video anymore. It’s one of the most annoying adverts I’d ever seen in my life.
I hope it’s gone by the time the next review comes along.
October 31, 2011 at 10:52 am
This was an awesome monster madness season! Thanks for putting these reviews up dude! I can’t wait for next seasons!
Great month once again cant blieve that its over!
October 31, 2011 at 10:53 am
This fucking garbage isn’t even worth reviewing, let alone saying anything positive about.
October 31, 2011 at 11:04 am
These movies are the reason that the Halloween series and Michael Myers is dead. rob pretty much shit on its legacy. Maybe he was trying to kill it of. shame..
October 31, 2011 at 11:07 am
Great work, James, on this year’s Monster Madness. As always, you knocked it out of the park. I hope you return to doing another sequel-a-thon next year so that you might cover Friday the 13th, Child’s Play, Hellraiser, or perhaps some new fair like Scream, Final Destination, Saw, and Hostel all of which have various high points and low-points (although the more recent the franchise the more low-points in my opinion).
My favorite of your reviews this year have got to be the Halloween franchise reviews. The Halloween Franchise is probably the one horror franchise that I have the most respect for despite some of the bad entries. The first 2 Halloween movies are better than anything that can be found any where else in the genre whether you look to the Friday the 13th films or anything more recent. Those first 2 movies are why I hold the Halloween franchise on a pedestal, and why I always had to give any Halloween sequel a chance even if i know ahead of time that it will most likely be awful.
As much as I cherish the original Halloween and I am generally not a fan of remakes, I like Rob Zombie’s first Halloween movie. It’s not as good as the original, but I don’t think Zombie was trying to replicate the original. He was trying to do his own thing. The final act might come across like Zombie trying to make a homage but he does infuse it enough with his own style. Giving Michael Myers the dysfunctional backstory makes sense to me, but it does make the character less scary. I don’t have a problem with Rob Zombie’s choices. It’s not for everyone, but if you watch it with an open-mind, it really is even better than most people give it credit for.
The thing that made the original so scary is that Michael Myers supposedly came from a normal household and he just snapped one day. The dialogue makes it clear that there is no real reason for Michael Myers ending up the way he did. He just became evil. To me, that’s scarier than giving the explanation of a dysfunctional family because that means that any seemingly normal person could one day just snap and become a maniac killer. The kid sitting behind you in class who lives just up the block from you could one day for no good reason sneak a knife to school with him and stab you in the back when you’re not expecting it. The person walking beside you on some random street in broad daylight could be a killer, or the person in line behind you in the movie theater could just snap for no good reason. The fact that there is no reason (such as family dysfunction or any other equivalent psychosis) is what made the original so scary. Plus, as James mentioned in his review for the first film in most horror films before this franchise, the victim went to the killer unwittingly. Here you have a horror film where the victims are attacked in their own comfort zones such as their own houses or in their own neighborhood.
What Zombie did was replace the original mythos and thematic elements of the original (which judging from the sequels, none of the filmmakers after John Carpenter truly understood anyway) and replaced that with his own trashy grindhouse horror elements. Instead of being a normal kid who randomly killed his sister, Michael is now deeply disturbed because of his dysfunctional family environment. His mother is now a stripper and kids tease him about it in school. Almost all the supporting characters have severe behavioral disorders appearing trashy and uncouth, and so Michael Myers becomes almost sympathetic. Although it is never said, Michael might actually be jealous that Laurie Strode escaped having to go through the things he did because the Strode family gave her a normal loving household. In a way, this interpretation makes sense and we can almost understand why Michael became the way he did, but it also takes away the very thing that made the original scary. Also, it also portrays people as victims of their environment who cannot rise above their circumstances. While, the Michael Myers backstory that Zombie gives us fits as a suitable explanation for the evil of Michael Myers, it also makes him less scary despite the physically imposing appearance of Tyler Mane as the adult Michael Myers. It was much better when Michael Myers was a subtle stalker who was able to walk into and out of the darkness. Tyler Mane is such a big bulking person that there’s no way he could be a subtle efficient killer. Everything is just too over the top.
I only saw Zombie’s 2nd Halloween film in the theaters and I have not seen the dvd version so I was surprised when James showed the Director’s cut ending here. One thing James forgot to mention (and i don’t know if the dvd version is the same) but the final shot of the theatrical Halloween 2 shows Laurie Strode in an institution with a deeply psychotic look on her face as if she might now be a killer if she were free. Despite the unevenness of the film as a whole, I have to say that I like this idea and I only wish Zombie could have explored this more. From the podcast that james participated in, it sounds like the studio greatly interfered with Zombie’s original vision, which was to have Laurie Strode turn into the actual killer and have Michael Myers be on her mind. Of course, this goes against everything we know about the original, but I like the concept and I have to give Zombie credit for infusing this franchise with much needed originality.
October 31, 2011 at 11:17 am
Happy Halloween. Thanks for Monster Madness 2011
October 31, 2011 at 11:24 am
I’m not a fan of modern horror films, one of the reasons is the overuse of a certain colour. GREEN.
Why do they make every single horror film in green?? I don’t get it!
Some films overuse the colour BLUE as well. That sucks too.
Another reason is the lack of originality. When I watch a horror film I want to get scared. Not disgusted.
Anyway, I bought a “Halloween Box” containing 5 horror films (Halloween, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Hellraiser, Wishmaster, Deep Fear)
I’m gonna give ‘em all a watch, but I’ve heard that the two last ones are really bad.
October 31, 2011 at 11:36 am
I’ve said many times before, these Zombie remakes are a complete mess and are a worthless use of film. And I’m so tired of hearing how good McDowell is in these films, his performance is so campy and soulless at the same time. He acts like he’s reading lines for a radio broadcast and not to be seen on screen. He’s terrible, like the rest of the films so maybe that was his point.
Rob Zombie needs to stick to music because all of his movies are just some stupid desire to make everything and everyone crazy like the Sawyer family from the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. He’s a one note filmmaker and he did nothing for the Halloween franchise except for making people notice how great the original is in comparison.
October 31, 2011 at 11:50 am
James: thank you very much!
I loved this years Monster-Madness!
Happy halloween from the Netherlands!
October 31, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Bravo!!!! another great Monster madness!!!!
October 31, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Happy Halloween to All Cinemassacre monster madness Fan and to you James and your crew (motherfucker mike, Kevin Finn) another great Job done this year Thanks for all the reviews and souvenir you brought back to me ^^ The Rob zombie Halloween movie … the first wasn’t bad but the second is bullshit .. I mean if you does see it as a sequel you fucking lost and confuse and if you don’t it’s a whole slashing down people for no reasons kind of movie… blood gore and all the skin reaping bones breaking horror film … Maybe Next year we’re gonna see a Friday the 13tth review in Monster Madness … For all Happy freaking Halloween!
October 31, 2011 at 12:26 pm
My biggest problem with H2 is that I feel that Laurie gets really, really annoying really quick. I don’t really have a problem with changing up the characters in and of itself (for example, I thought the different version of Dr. Loomis worked pretty well), but so much of the movie is devoted to her just screaming and whining and acting tormented that it’s like “OK, we get it, she’s traumatized, can we move on now?”. Also, the whole “Laurie’s insane and she’s gonna be the new killer now ending” has already been done in Halloween 4, not to mention Friday the 13th Part 4 AND Friday the 13th Part 5, and not once has it ever actually stuck and carried over into the sequels. If they actually make a third one and use that ending it’ll be more forgivable, but seriously, unless you’re REALLY sure that you’re going to carry it over, just stop ending your slashers like that.
The only thing I really have to say about the first one is that when you see Danny Trejo it really hits you that “Holy crap, he’s actually an amazing actor, he has quite a bit of range”. Seriously, watch like “Dusk ’til Dawn” or another Robert Rodriguez film and then watch this, it’s like two completely different people.
October 31, 2011 at 12:54 pm
When James got to the ending of Halloween 2, I was wondering what the hell scene that was because I also saw it in the theaters and don’t remember him unmasked and speaking.
October 31, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Wow, you were WAY more forgiving on the remakes that I was. I totally hated them from start to finish.
The problem? Zombie clearly doesn’t have a grasp on realize what the character of Michael Meyers is. In the original film, Meyers more than just another psycho in a mask like Jason Voorhees. He was a force of nature, more the distilled spirit of the essence of murder itself than just an axe wielding maniac. The pillowcases and hockey masks worn by other masked killers were intended to hide their identities; Michael’s Halloween mask, on the other hand, reveals his true self by giving him a new face as empty and expressionless as his own soul. He was, in essence, the boogeyman. When you explain why Michael is damaged goods, giving him troubled childhood and a completely dysfunctional family, you take away his power. You demote him from the larger than life force of nature and turn him into just another psycho in a mask. There’s nothing special to him anymore.
October 31, 2011 at 1:13 pm
I pissed myself and laughed to tears when you were describing and showing the stripper slam scene. Heard you chuckling and just lost it. Very good reviews as usual. I loved this month of monster madness. Excellent!!
October 31, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Thanks for another kick ass October James, I look forward to this shit every year. Enjoy the holiday man.
October 31, 2011 at 1:18 pm
i like rob zomies halloween part 1 not part 2 he dies in part 2 he would survive but i can just hope that they make a remake of halloween but better ending he shall not die
October 31, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Happy Halloween James and Mike! Thanks for another awesome year of Monster Madness!
October 31, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Thank you so very, very, VERY much for an awesome Monster Madness this year again James! You’re an example to other people with the quality of the content you release for absolutely no price at all. It makes me kind of sad that being a student I can’t show my appreciation in monetary sense but at least I disabled my adBlock on your site for those commercial incomes. Anyway rambled too long, continue to do what you love and have a very fan-fucking-tasting Halloween!! Much love from Finland!
October 31, 2011 at 1:53 pm
i love October for the soul reason of monster madness thanks for another great one James!!
The area I live in has postpone Halloween till this Saturday due to that………….FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT SNOW STORM WHICH DID A LOT DAMAGE TO THE STATE OF NJ & MANY OTHER STATES AS WELL! I NEVER KNEW SUCH A THING COULD HAPPEN………TILL NOW!! I SWEAR IF NOV 5TH HALLOWEEN SUCKS THEN I’LL BE GOING FUCKING BAT SHIT NUTS! FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 31, 2011 at 1:58 pm
I didn’t like Michael Meyers unmasked. He looked too old and like a mountain man. I found it creepy in the original when he had somewhat of an angelic face and wasn’t too fond of the backstory. I liked in the original that Michael seemed to have come from a typical middle class family and not trailer trash. Didn’t like the notion that his mother was a stripper either. That was just weird. This one kind of came off as some guy who watched the original Halloween series, and went out to be an imitator, which could be an interesting concept. Didn’t like Laurie in this one either.
October 31, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Rob Zombie was the worst person to direct a remake. His personal style just does not fit the Halloween series. Michael is just, well, a regular serial killer now. He just isn’t scary without that shroud of mystery surrounding him. And why is he so brutal? Myers kills effieictly, not like a barabarian. AND WHY DOES HE TALK. Way to ruin it. These movies completely missed the point and I have no intention to watch them now.
Anyway, thanks for another Monster Madness James. This was the first year I followed from day 1 to Halloween, and damn was it good. Looking forward to next year. Happy Halloween
October 31, 2011 at 2:34 pm
I loved this years Monster Madness, i’ve followed along with all the movies and feel pretty darn educated about them now. If you did sequal-A-ton next year as well, i wouldn’t complain =)
October 31, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Happy Halloween, James! Great month, can’t wait to see more next October! But for now, I want to see that Disgruntled Electronic Simulation Geek. ON THE SILVER SCREEN!
Tricks and Treats for all,
October 31, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Great job on this year’s Monster Madness, it’s appreciated as always
Damn….now what am I going to look foreword to everyday……..I got spoiled with content this month!
October 31, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Terrific recaps, James! I’ve gone back and watched every Monster Madness episode and each one is better than the last.
I’ve been a White Zombie fan for years and years but have flagging interest in Rob’s films. After seeing House of 1,000 Corpses and The Devil’s Rejects, I’m still waiting for him to do something more cerebral and interesting. Unfortunately, his next project (The Lords of Salem) looks like more of the same.
October 31, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Happy Fuckin’ Halloween!!!!
October 31, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Well, now it’s time to play the waiting game until next year! My Halloween routine just isnt the same without Monster Madness. James, you did another great job and I had a lot of laughs. Thank you very much, for all of your hard work!
October 31, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Thank you for the wonderful reviews, James! I wish you and Mike a Happy Halloween!
October 31, 2011 at 3:46 pm
who says james needs to do a stephen king monster madness some year? watch ‘dreamcatcher’ james….you’ll puke from the awfulness. i read the book first and that made it even worse
October 31, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Thanks Again James!
I didn’t know about the dvd ending in 2, interesting. Also, I know its not as infamous as Halloween 666, but the 1st of the remakes had a workprint leak that was much different from the final cut, a bit grittier and had the much talked about rape scene in the psych ward.
October 31, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Thank you James & co. You guys, without a doubt, make October the best month of the year for all of us, all of your hard work is very much appreciated.
Happy Halloween from Sweden.
October 31, 2011 at 4:32 pm
You know, for a lot of us in New England, Halloween has been postponed until Saturday. So technically you could get away with 5 more episodes
October 31, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Both of these movies I thought were terrible beyond belief.
October 31, 2011 at 4:55 pm
The Halloween 2 being talked here is the Director’s Cut. I also find it bizzare, but it’s fun to watch.
Hey, Jimmy, HAPPY F**KIN’ HALLOWEEN.
LMAO it is actually humorous that you are negative about this movie even though it is probably the best horror remake out there. You go to great lengths to put down newer movies just because they aren’t what you grew up with and to put Rob Zombie’s remake down is a fucking joke. What 20-something year old says something is too violent? What are u an 80 year old grandmother?
October 31, 2011 at 4:56 pm
I work in a Psychiatric Residential Treatment Facility – also known as a PRTF. I have dealt with kids with almost the same background as the young Michael who also had almost the exact same behaviors (right down to torturing animals while wearing the face of an angel). As such, Rob Zombie’s Halloween series scared the crap out of me because I have in essence met a Michael Myers. I found out later what I could already tell by watching them: he had researched actual serial killers in order to create the backstory. Unfortunately, the backstory is far too often completely real.