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October 27, 2011 at 12:11 am
Another Great Video !
Thanks James !
December 2, 2011 at 10:22 pm
i seen all the halloween movies
December 2, 2011 at 10:22 pm
i seen all of the halloween movies
October 27, 2011 at 12:28 am
Man, the mask looks awful in this one.
Great review, James.
October 27, 2011 at 12:32 am
i saw it i agree
October 27, 2011 at 12:34 am
Forget to mention the comic reliefs cops stupid clown theme music.
October 27, 2011 at 12:45 am
i stopped watching them as they were coming out after halloween 2 and one night years later i saw halloween 5 on tv…I couldn’t even finish it, and ive never gone back since. i wouldnt mind seeing it again for the sake of curiosity even though you made a point to mention you don’t recommend it…ha, man james it almost seems like when you say shit is bad it makes me want to check it out even more
October 27, 2011 at 12:52 am
The stupid cops music was supposed to be an homage a scene in Wes Craven’s The Last House on the Left. But not a whole lot of people would have picked up on that unless they were horror movie freaks like I am. Although I think now it is mentioned on imdb. Moustapha Akkad also said that he wished in retrospect that they would have waited longer to make halloween 5 because even he thought it turned out badly.
October 27, 2011 at 12:55 am
Last House on the Left? Wow, I never would have made that connection. Still, I can’t take the movie seriously after that scene with the clown music.
October 27, 2011 at 12:58 am
I hated part 5, just because of your reasons alone, it was a big fucking mess of a sequel. My favourite Halloween is H20 btw, can’t wait for that review soon. Alot of people doesn’t like it, and I don’t know why. Maybe because H20 was the same as number 5, a mess of plot holes, because Laurie has been announced dead in one of the sequels.
October 27, 2011 at 1:00 am
I couldnt believe that they couldn;t come up with a better script. I agree with the ending of 4 should play into 5, have it in the blood line. I will say however that at the end of this movie that I saw in the theatre I wanted to know more of the man in black, but just another disappointment
October 27, 2011 at 1:17 am
I disagree slightly in that I think Plesence and Harris do save this movie enough to be worth a watch if you haven’t seen it. If they had to do a group of sequels that would eventually be ignored in the continuity, at least they did a fantastic job at casting the new heroine.
October 27, 2011 at 2:02 am
They did the exact same thing in Friday the 13th part 5 making corey feldmans character from part 4 the new murderer though they didn’t continue it on which they very much should of. you could see how fuked he was in part 5! Though Halloween 5 was an ok movie i’d say 4 is better than 5 but still they’re both alright.
October 27, 2011 at 2:27 am
The way they damn near ignored the end of Halloween 4 is just stupid. Jamie being the new villain would have been really interesting. I guess they learned the hard way with part 3 that you can’t make it even the slightest bit different, or people get mad.
October 27, 2011 at 2:31 am
Why is Myers invisible? I don’t understand?! BUT IT ROcKS LIKE A ROCKIN THANG!
October 27, 2011 at 2:32 am
*invincible
October 27, 2011 at 2:38 am
Sorry guys, I’ve never been a fan of the Halloween series, so maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about, but I’ve never liked Michael Myer’s character and never understood how people can. I mean, he might be scary in one single film, but he’s not the monster like Jason or Freddy, to return over and over, hes just a psychopath! He’s human, as you can see in this sequel. Why would you want him in a full series of movies while you already have Jason? I always tought it was just because people happened to se Halloween and love it, and not Friday the 13th.
Since he doesn’t even have a cool name (come on! Every time I see him I imagine Austin Powers under that mask!) I think it would have been better if the mask was worn by a different killer all the time… The character would be known as “The Shape” and that’s it.
Also, why does he wear a mask? To hide his face like Jason? No, he has a normal face. It’s just not to be recognised, but then it’s stupid to wear the same mask!
I just don’t get this character…
October 27, 2011 at 2:42 am
Halloween 5 mask is so god-awful, the characters are shit, the story horrible. This is the one Halloween film I made myself finish, never thought they could ruin the franchise so much!
October 27, 2011 at 3:01 am
Funny how Loomis who was in an explosion now has perfect skin and just a slight limp
October 27, 2011 at 3:05 am
PS: By that I mean he should look more like Freddy Krueger
October 27, 2011 at 3:08 am
” Should I watch this movie, Mr Pleasence ? ” “NO, NO , NO !!!!! “.
October 27, 2011 at 3:14 am
DRUNKEN BY THE SUCCESS OF HALLOWEEN 4, MOUSTAPHA AKKAD WITHIN LESS THAN A YEAR RUSHED HALLOWEEN 5 INTO PRODUCTION……..
Big mistake! I will say that I somewhat enjoy part 5, but it has its very little ups and many downs. I thought the first hour is draggy, the characters are annoying, just written to be killed. The movie is like watching a child disney meets R.L. Stine movie. The last half hour, the climax ix when it FINALLY picks up DR Loomis goes isane, the movie gets dark, and the man in black shows up. Not that great of a film, but fun to watch
October 27, 2011 at 4:31 am
Hmm… I never seen this particular movie, but those kids playing pranks half the time sounnd really annoying. I’ve seen most Friday movies even though I hate most of them. The kids are dumb as fuck and instead of rooting for them you just wish those dumb fuckers would die and it takes away most suspense. This is the reason I have prefered Halloween series.
However, I definately like the Nightmare on Elm Street series in the slasher genre the most. The kids there are often smart and they do not do stupid pranks on each other and do not think about smoking crack, drinking alcohol and getting wasted and fucking all time. They try to come up with intelligent solutions to kill Freddy instead of just running around screaming. Freddy has dark humour and his killings are often creative and funny.
October 27, 2011 at 4:46 am
I like the Twin Peaks footage in this episode of Monster Madness.
I might add that Halloween 5 had a really cool definitive art cover though.
October 27, 2011 at 5:22 am
She didn’t succeed in killing her step mother. Seriously James her step sister Rachael mentions going on a trip with her parents not long before she’s killed, implying her mom survived the stabbing. For that matter given the time frame between the mom’s initial screams and when Jamie is seen holding the bloody scissors at the top of the stairs at the end of #4 she obviously only stabbed a couple times which frankly the odds of a little girl killing someone with a pair of scissors after only a couple of stabs are really low unless she’s some kind of mutant with super strength, has amazingly good aim or similarly amazing luck. With stabs it’s all about location, depth and/or quantity so unless she hit a major blood vessel or the heart all the mom would need with that few stabs, which were probably shallow to begin with, is to be rushed to the hospital to get stitched up.
As for the ending of part 4 that is only one possible interpretation. Given at that point Michael had already survived “certain death” at least twice it could also be taken as a way of saying Michael is still alive and effecting Jamie. If you think of the ending like that then #5 actually makes a lot more sense.
All that said I agree #5 is probably the weakest film in the Michael part of franchise with the possible except of H20. Also that they should have made him more messed up in the shots where you see his face. I mean in #4 they at least made it obvious he had been burned when you got good looks at his hands but in this it’s like it never even happened.
October 27, 2011 at 5:45 am
Bob is gonna get you.
October 27, 2011 at 6:27 am
Yeah. Thanks.
Next one, please, hurry. I’m bored today.
October 27, 2011 at 6:34 am
I doubt Loomis was intending to actually throw Jamie to Michael. He just seemed like he was trying to play up to Michael’s predatorial nature by offering up the girl. He had a pretty good hold on her. Maybe it’s just me, but I can’t see him outside of a protective role, especially for a little girl. Yeah, he would ACT like he was using her as bait to fool Michael, but with absolutely no intention of giving her up. Does that make sense?
Anyway, great vids this month. These really brighten up my days.
October 27, 2011 at 6:48 am
I cant wait until u give ur review of rob zombie’s remake of halloween, which i have no doubt that you will. I have to honestly say it is my favorite horror movie of all time, maybe even just favorite movie of all time. that sucks to say that, because the original was a masterpiece, but i found RZ’s more indepth with the charactors.
Cant wait till the next 1, and ofcourse the AVGN movie. U ROCK JAMES!
October 27, 2011 at 6:52 am
WTF IS UP WITH THE HOME SCREEN!?!?!?!?!?
October 27, 2011 at 7:01 am
If done right I have an idea for a new Halloween movie. It whould be kinda cool if Michael Myers bonds with his niece and her too became a killer or something. But it whould have to be done almost perfect in order to not make it really cheesey.
October 27, 2011 at 7:26 am
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Damn, James you HAD to go and show Bob from Twin Peaks, huh? Scared the living shit out of me. You guys can have your Freddies and Michael Myers-es…. Bob from the Black Lodge is one SCARY motherfucker! I’d shit my pants if I saw that dude in real life!!!
October 27, 2011 at 7:27 am
Hey James, it’s actually mentioned in this movie that Jamies step-mother survived the stabbings in Halloween 4. I hope you don’t go to hard on Halloween 6 tomorrow, it’s one of my favorites.
October 27, 2011 at 7:35 am
This was the first Halloween film (or really truly horror film) that i ever watched. Remember i was in grade 8 and at a birthday party. I remember sitting on a couch with about 12 other people watching this.. The music really stood out. I loved the music! Always felt bad for that poor hermit. He was just doing Michael a kindness. I was hoping Michael would at least let him live, but at the time i didn’t understand the concept of Myers.
The pitchfork-sex-deathscene really stands out for me, too. Don’t remember much else.
I have never gone back to watch it again. (Good gosh that’s over 20 years ago, now!)
October 27, 2011 at 8:14 am
The whole zombie idea for Michael Myers, I have to say I’m glad they kept him relatively human because, going back the the Zombie Jason Voorhees reference, while I DO like Kane Hodder’s Jason in part 7, I prefer when the killer is actually human and still alive therefore seeming more like “this could happen to anyone really” if you get what I mean.
October 27, 2011 at 8:27 am
Halloween 5 is a dark sequel. I personally like it. Not even the writers knew who the man in black was? I guess in 1989, they didn’t have the Thorn origiin concept completely thought up.
October 27, 2011 at 8:28 am
I really hope that when you review 6, that the Producer’s Cut gets covered too. I enjoyed it a lot, and I really dug the whole Thorn story. Halloween 1, 2 and 6 are the installments I give repeat viewings too. 4 and 5 were okay. Halloween Water was decent, I enjoyed Laurie’s return, but I hated that they didn’t follow up on the Thorn plot and that everything between 4 and 6 was completely ignored. 8 was fucking stupid, and in my opinion the worst of the entire series. I pretend like that piece of shit never got made. And then I’ve never even seen Rob Zombie’s remakes. I just can’t bring myself to have any interest.
October 27, 2011 at 8:29 am
I almost agree with you James I still like several parts of the movies. I do agree that it could’ve been better. I do like his mask better than the one he had in 4.
October 27, 2011 at 8:32 am
Hmm… so this one isn’t recommended, eh? Still, a guy probably has to see each movie at least once? :p
October 27, 2011 at 8:46 am
Eh, i actually recommend checking out the Zombie movies.
Watch them together, though. They work best being considered as 1 long movie, rather then 2 separate entities. The first one has a pretty absorbing first-half followed by a very rushed second half that is basically a remake of Carpenter’s original.
The 2nd film is, in my opinion, pretty bold filmmaking and actually serves to make the first film better. It becomes more of a character study of the 4 survivors from the first movie. You saw how 4 different personalities handled trauma. It was really unexpected, and probably the best Halloween film since Carpenter’s original!
October 27, 2011 at 9:06 am
I have a minor correction here. The mom was actually her foster mother, even though it somehow got changed to stepmother for Halloween 5. Also, although Jamie stabbed her, she didn’t kill her. The evidence of that is when Rachel leaves the hospital. As she says good by to Jamie, she says “Mom and dad send their love.” So the mom survived the attack.
October 27, 2011 at 9:53 am
I saw 3, 4, and 5 the other night on AMC like they do every year. While 3 is pretty good in its own way, 4 & 5 are OK since they’re inter-connected like the first two films. Yeah some of the characters are annoying, but 5 I think is a little better than 4 even though not by a whole lot.
October 27, 2011 at 10:07 am
Yeah, they didn’t ignore the ending of 4, they just worked around it by saying the mom survived. And Jamie was in the hospital to get treatment because she was psychologically scarred, which does make sense. They psychic link between her and Michael could have worked if they fleshed it out more and had a better pay off. I always wanted to re-edit this movie and completely take out the man in black, because it may have been a decent movie without all that cult bullshit.
The mask does look much better than part 4, but they didn’t tuck it inside the collar of the overalls, so it still looks dumb. Forget about Michael’s eyes being shot out, they pretended that didn’t happen in part 4. The house is ridiculous. No excuses for why they fucked that up, terrible. And I agree, the cast of new teens is awful. Oh, and don’t forget the bungling cops that come compete with their own comic relief music, that’s probably the biggest joke of them all.
Overall, a bad sequel but the next one is even worse.
October 27, 2011 at 10:26 am
Interesting idea for a Haloween movie, cheezdoodle96. Unfortunately the idea of Michael teaming up with his niece wouldn’t work as she dies in part 6.
Did you know that the actress who plays Jamie in part IV and V plays one of Laurie’s friends in both of the Rob Zombie remakes?
October 27, 2011 at 10:55 am
I still really enjoyed this one, though I feel it could have been much better had it been Tina who got it early on and Rachel was the one to live on, I thought Don Shanks was fantastic as michael myers and probably the best peformance as Michael in the whole series bar the original. Overall I’d give it a 6, had potential but was ruined by simply killing off the wrong character, the guy in black and the ending. Anyway another great video.
October 27, 2011 at 11:25 am
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwesome like the the miz
October 27, 2011 at 12:23 pm
back in 1998 or 1999 cant reamember after H2O came out i rented all of them wached them in order or so i thought after halloween 2 i put in the curse of michael myers thinking it was the 3rd one the damn block buster did not have the 3rd one so james is rite on the money about that michael will always be stronger than jason jason mite be bigger at times but michael never really died part 1,was good 2, just as good 4, good but not grait 5, very dark in 5 micheals mask was the scaryest he looked like the english guy in (tango and cash) 6, to me was the best one micheal seem to be the largest in that one the killing looked not scary but knail biteing the tone looked real like hellraiser michael picked up something the killed then left what ever he used to kill an found someing els an axe something that looked like a meshety or just his bare hands
October 27, 2011 at 12:38 pm
the one thing that made all six of them worth waching was that DR Loomis was in all of them a good actor to say the least got older weaker in each chapter unlike michael but he never gave up
October 27, 2011 at 12:55 pm
I gotta be honest, this one kind of confused me the first time I watched it, but after seeing it multiple times it starts to make sense and fits with the other films, part 2 and 3 excluded. Also, I didn’t know the Judge Doom broke Michael out of prison. Can’t wait for part 6, but I will.
October 27, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Lol damn I was so happy to see Twin Peaks in an James Rolfe video. You should do a review of that series since its the best tv show of all time.
October 27, 2011 at 1:22 pm
The guy who played Michael in this movie really wasn’t any bigger than the guy who played Michael in the first movie. Don Shanks(the Michael Myers in this movie) is 6’1, where as Michael in the first movie is usually around 5’11-6’0 depending on the person playing him. Not that big of a difference and certainly not as bad as using the 6’8, 270+ pound Tyler Mane, like Zombie did.
October 27, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Nice work James. You echo my sentiments on this movie pretty well. One thing you haven’t touched on (maybe you have in a previous review of the series) was the cliche subtitles of the halloween series. “Curse” “Return” “Revenge” “Resurrection” are 4 of THE MOST cliche titles you can get in a movie (how many movies have you seen that have those in the title?) and the halloween series has all 4.
This entry was pretty disappointing. There are parts of the movie that are done well, there are actors that perform well, but as a whole, the movie does a poor job. Thank you for bringing up the ending; one of the worst endings in the entire series.
It’s like some movies are made because the creators had a message for the audience, and some movies are made because the creators wanted another solid-gold diamond-encrusted dildo added to their collection. This movie seems to be of the second variety.
October 27, 2011 at 2:30 pm
This movie always confused me for the exact points mentioned in this video. Right after part 4, what happened with the “possessed” kill from the end of the last movie, especially with the screams of “nooo! Nooooooo!” from Loomis… I assumed she was found not guilty by reason of insanity/trauma and was kept in that mental hospital because of that, but that kill was simply ignored…
That mysterious man in black too was a surprise, especially after hearing that he apparently had no official plan or identity from the writers when the movie was made. And leaving the mask on him while he was in jail was mind boggling.
October 27, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Personally when Rob Zombie remade Halloween, i thought that the red mask that Micheal made was far more sinister and far scarier than the crappy white mask. I actually enjoyed the remake greatly, i thought it was very very well done.
October 27, 2011 at 3:06 pm
GOOD GOD BOB IS IN THE OPENING CREDITS! That bastard used to terrify me. Good to see Twin Peaks getting some love though.
October 27, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Nothing will ever comparee to the original but luckily I can still find enjoyment in all of the sequels… well maybe except for Resurrection.
But I agree with something someone on here said, you MUST acknowedge the Producers Cut of Halloween 6 because from what I understand the thorn curse and the man in black is all expained in that version.
Also I have much to say about the comparisions of Carpenters Halloween to Zombies but I shall save that till you review them.
October 27, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Still upset that you’re devoting almost 8 minutes to this gargled horse shit while only spending on average 4 minutes on anyone of the nightemare movies.
October 27, 2011 at 3:44 pm
This and the last and the next are a garbage bag of mix up uninspired, forgotten, not used junk. They dont use things from the last movie, like you said the girl killing; and him being shot, stabbed, and burned;yet perfectly normal looking. He’s wolverine. He has a insane healing factor. The story is just crap. You have the same cops from the last movie pump a good 50 shots in the guy, tnt’ed, and then they put him in chains and treat him like a regular prisoner a year later. YEA, I’d skip country. Even loomis, after all he’;s gone through. He would know he’s undead. He would have chopped him up in little pieces and sent the pieces to different parts of the world. But they treat him like a regular everyday psycho killer.
I could enjoy these movies if they would just treat him like a unkillable monster like jason. But they tread the he’s a human aspect, and makes these movies unwatchable.
October 27, 2011 at 4:39 pm
In my opinion Halloween 5 is one of the worst movie’s ever made
October 27, 2011 at 4:55 pm
The guy that breaks Micheal out of jail isn’t revealed but the motives of who he might have worked for and the marking in the movie is revealed in Curse of Micheal Myers.
October 27, 2011 at 5:00 pm
I am watching Halloween3t. Its not that bad what makes it interesting is its something new. It would been way better if they had a new monster each movie that was centered around halloween rather than doing the same thing
October 27, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Halloween 5 has some good parts as mensioned, but the best is the beginig titles with the pumpkin being hacked up. That was bad-ass and worked great. If you watch this, and want to avoid most stupid tricks and stupid stiry, fast forward a full hour in, when it gets good. I do that everytime i can.
October 27, 2011 at 6:21 pm
I can’t believe Monster Madness is almost over.
But it’s John Cleese’s birthday today!
October 27, 2011 at 6:24 pm
So if you’re going to do the next movie, The Curse of Michael Myers, then you’ve got to do both the regular version and the Producer’s Cut (which is awesome).
October 27, 2011 at 8:18 pm
This movie blows. Period.
October 27, 2011 at 8:27 pm
if some reason thay wanna skip 3 and remake 4&5 a good choice for the little girl would be jodelle ferland she just got a creapy vibe going for her
October 27, 2011 at 8:34 pm
That Meyers House goes from a normal two story house to a gothic mansion! Are you shitting me! I never liked that, among other things in the movie. And I think the house totally changed AGAIN in the next movie. Ugh!
October 27, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Wow, this movie does look pretty bad. I think I’ll skip this one.
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October 27, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Thanks for sharing
October 27, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Can’t believe he didn’t mention how they re-used the ending footage from Halloween 4 and then showed Michael wearing an entirely different mask once he crawls into the water! Talk about a huge continuity error!
Also, on the inside page of the cover art on the Halloween 5 DVD, there’s a movie review from some critic who goes on and on about how this is a highly underrated entry in the series and how great it is! It’s an absurd review to say the least!
October 27, 2011 at 9:29 pm
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October 27, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Ignoring the ending of the previous movie is not uncommon in horror. Same thing happened in Friday the 13th where they ignore Tommy Jarvis killing someone.
October 27, 2011 at 10:55 pm
I think I understand why Michael looks so perfect. Remember in the first one when he is unmasked? He is rather good looking. Although he is a mass serial killer, he has the looks of an angel. Maybe the writers continued this by making him look fine after being burned and shot at. It would be a great continuity nod to the original film.
Or maybe they sucked at their job and forgot he had been burned and shot, or maybe they just didn’t care.
October 28, 2011 at 12:27 am
I actually like this one. But I think I like it because everytime there is a Halloween marathon on TV, this is the one I always catch. So it’s probably grown on me. The teens are very annoying so it really pays off when Michael finally kills them. Tina pissed me off when she leaves Jamie, who is completely terrified, to go meet some guy she wants to screw.
October 29, 2011 at 3:22 am
Coincidentally, Kaldary, I was just going to post something similar about Tina. I am currently rewatching the movie, and realized that Tina starts out as a very likable character, until the douchebag boyfriend shows up.
October 29, 2011 at 10:29 pm
The thorn symbol is a rune:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurisaz
October 30, 2011 at 1:33 pm
@Awesome Gamer No one gives a fuck about some freaking fanfic about a poorly-written film series, especially an iCarly/Transformers crossover.
I think despite Halloween 5′s faults, I think it should have ended right here. Anyone seen Phelous’s review of the final Halloween film?
November 1, 2011 at 11:00 pm
FUCK YEAH MARS ATTACKS AT 0:03!!!!
November 14, 2011 at 8:11 pm
I like how addressed the girl running faster than a car and I was also annoyed by all the false scares because in every movie they’re nothing but annoying and anti-climatic but i wished that you would’ve address the fact that since he couldn’t run over a 9 year-old girl he couldn’t be going faster than 15mph if that and at that speed his car would not have exploded…
February 25, 2012 at 8:39 am
Always hated the mask in this movie. Looks like Pinocchio.
February 25, 2012 at 8:49 am
This is the worst of the series to me. I personally like the mask in 4 better because at least it’s nose and hair aren’t fucked up. And bringing Michael to prison in handcuffs while wearing his costume is ridiculous. It looks like a goddamn SNL skit. And this might sound like I don’t care about emotion but Michael should never cry. They screwed that up in the remake too. If Michael cries it gets rid of the mystery. We now know the guy has emotions. Michael, in my opinion, shouldn’t have motives or emotions. He should just be a maniac which makes him creepier.
July 28, 2012 at 6:33 am
I remember seeing scenes from “Halloween 5,” but I’ve never actually sat down and watch all of it. It’s a shame they didn’t follow up on Jamie’s story properly, would’ve made for an excellent sequel!
August 2, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Guess they figured the original Meyers house looked too plain and was copied too closely by Nancy’s house on Elm Street.
Stupid that they would have kept him for the rest of his life in a city jail anyway, as he should have been sent to state prison.
August 15, 2012 at 12:04 am
I have a soft spot for this sequel in particular. The first 3/4 of the movie ranges from bad to pedestrian; but the last act of this one is actually very good. Starting with the part where they use Jamie as bait to lure Michael into the Myers Mansion (weird?) , the movie has a great pace and genuinely dark, halloweenish atmousphere. This was one of the last examples I can think of when this particular franchise was legitimetely “scary”.
February 4, 2013 at 3:44 am
Twin Peaks in the intro? I’d be totally down to see James review of it, or of a David Lynch film.
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