TMNT Commodore 64 (AVGN DVD Bonus feature)

Mike / July 26th, 2011

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  • July 26, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    :o

    I really hate the commodore … :/

  • officialjab

    July 26, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    Hope the TMNT thing goes on. Especially with the games, playing with the toys in the old videos isn’t terribly interesting.

  • July 26, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    this kind of game remember me one called Mech Warrior on the pc, the very first one. You needed a book as big as the bible to get the code to play it. It was like, go to page 567 and line E on the fifth row, and that took like 5 to 10 minutes to find. Damn…

  • rocky356744

    July 26, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    I love all this focus on TMNT. Brings back so many memories. I posted this before, but I would love to see you guys get 4 people and play the “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turltes Arcade game. The NES version was cool, but the arcade version was great. The arcade version is available on “Teenage mutant ninja turtles: Battle Nexus” for the gamecube. It’s kind of a pain in the ass to unlock it, but totally worth it. 4 friends, a few beers, and some TMNT! What could be better!?

  • July 26, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    “”= Quotation marks
    ()=Parentheses
    Just thought you should know James. Love your work and appreciate it all!

  • xdeathknightx

    July 26, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    Commodore 64 was awesome. I had the one with the cassette tapes, I just had to write load and then press play. Then again I had to rewind, reset the timer to 000 and then fast forward to where the game would “start” (but those were copies)

  • July 26, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    I love watching your videos! I don’t know if you just forgot, but you just needed to type “run” and press Return after loading the World Tour game.

  • 777masterhero

    July 26, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    I hate DOS programs! I spent a whole hour just trying to get the thing started. I ended up quitting and destroying it. Good review though!

  • July 26, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    Oh, God, the dilettantism! I’m afraid just some basic knowledge lacked to get the game run.

  • officialjab

    July 26, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    Heh, Mike, you laugh hysterically at your own statements a bit too much.

  • TomasK

    July 26, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    You forgot to type RUN after the “World Tour” game was finished loading.

  • BigBoss

    July 26, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    You do have the power of the internet if you don’t know the commands to start those games.

  • freiteez

    July 26, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    I have the exact same monitor that your using. Crazy! I used to play my N64 on it lol

  • July 26, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    TomasK is right. Just type “run”
    And do yourself a favor and pick up an epyx fast load cart.
    Leave the cart plugged in and hit the commodore button and runstop at the same time. Games load much faster.

  • July 26, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    c:\>
    c:\>cd cinemassacre
    c:\cinemassacre\>
    c:\cinemassacre\>cinemasacre.exe
    Bad command or file name
    c:\cinemassacre\>cinemassacre.exe
    Internal stack overflow
    Internal stack overflow
    Internal stack overflow
    Internal stack overflow
    c:\cinemassacre\>fk this shit
    General Failure

  • Kepa

    July 26, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    I didn´t know that that paper was for commodor and I always wondered for what was that paper for when I was a little kid. Btw. I´m born in 1995 so I´m not familiar with commodor or any other things like that.

  • July 26, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    The tape deck is just “Load”
    It’ll ask you to press play on tape.
    Hit play. Wait 5-10min. It’s SLOW.
    Since it’s “Hero Turtles” it might be in PAL and not play right anyway.

  • no_aloha

    July 26, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    Love the nostalgia/video game kitsch. This stuff is cool, imo.

  • fleksnes

    July 26, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    JAMES! I saw in one earlier video that you own the whole Iron Maiden discography and are a huge fan. It would bee cool if you did a video where you went through the discography and commented on the CD’s!

  • July 26, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    Nobody buying themselves peripheral for the C64 is ever doing themselves a ‘favor’, guy.
    Do yourself a real ‘favor’ and throw that whole POS at somebody while you’re driving down the interstate.
    It’s the only way to be sure.

  • Digger318

    July 26, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    Ever play Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Manhattan Missions?
    On DOS, I used to love it, and I still do! on Dos Box
    http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-manhattan-missions

  • Steven T

    July 26, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    Do you have the C64 game based on the Masters of the Universe film?

    Or that Death Wish III game where you can shoot people into red mush, and there are thugs going around beating grannies into red mush but sometimes the granny would overpower the thug and beat him into mush?

    I also remember this game called Nosferatu the Vampyre. I could never get past the first level because the enemies are tiny killer spiders you can hardly make out because they’re the same colour as the background. The cover for it was scary and gave me nightmares.

  • hajpermegaman

    July 26, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    Cool video guys! Maybe not as polished as a Nerd video but still cool.
    And C64 hardware was always unreliable as fuck, especially the cassette tapes.

  • Pentium100

    July 26, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Nice. The oldest computer I have is a 286 with 1MB of RAM. I do have a CGA card for it (the thing is ~34cm long, made mostly out of discrete logic chips) and a VGA card, so I can even play the old games that need the CGA as well as newer games that need VGA.

    Kepa, that paper is for any dot-matrix printer, dasibally it allows you to print on a roll of paper instead of separate sheets, the holes are engaged by gears in the printer to move the paper. It also can be with alternating color lines, so it is easier to read big tables or long lists.

  • Luigi12

    July 26, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    i have a DOS system made by IBM in 1981 that works just needs a new disk drive

  • JamesRolfe

    July 26, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    I never knew that the NES TMNT game was ported to another system. I played that game for much as a kid and never made it past the building tops. I can’t imagine trying to play through the whole game on the Commodore 64 lol

  • holder

    July 26, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    @Digger318

    TMNT Manhattan Missions is amazing game. I play it very often , it’s easy game but is very entertaining . In my opinion one of the best TMNT PC games. I don’t like these Commodore games , the controls is pure joke.

  • AssPumper

    July 26, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    You have to press space button on keyboard to jump in Gryzor (Contra on C64). Contra is one of the best games on NES but on C64 it just sucks ass.

  • July 26, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    This machine was hard to work back on those days! now imagine this on those days!

  • Fei Wong

    July 26, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    Hi James, as always, a good and fun video, the only 8 bit piece of shit i first touched in my life was an Amstrad CPC from my cousin, when i was like 4 years old, and i instantly fell in love with those black and red pixels of death and those awesome game covers, it was the shit, and a real piece of shit!

  • Johnthegamer

    July 26, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    I never would of thought any ninja turtles games would of came out for the Commodore 64.

  • preying4war

    July 26, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    Yeah, Turtles 4 on Super Nintendo is the best Ninja Turtles game…(NEON KNIGHTriderS: Yes we all love Black Sabbath). The Manhattan Project is a close second. The Fall of the Foot Clan on Gameboy was basic, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t good.
    The only other time I’ve seen a game on a cassette was when The Nerd reviewed Transformers. I don’t understand how you could play a game on tape…probably because it’s one of the worst ideas ever.

    While were waiting for the Commodore to work, let’s over analyze old printer paper & DOS…pretty funny.

  • Senter

    July 26, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    Did you hit the ‘play’ button on the cassette loader then type in: load?
    At least I think that’s how I used to load the games with. I used to have a whole big bag full of Commodore 64 cassette games. They did not have a label written on it so it was like a big surprise which game it turned out to be. Mind you the loading took up to sometimes 2 hours or so.

  • dokng

    July 26, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    I remember when there wasn’t much else besides the Commodore, the Atari 2600 and some other computers that just didn’t have as many videogames available for them. There actually were a lot of really good games that not only played well, but actually functioned properly… these ones you’re trying to play are not some of them…

  • July 26, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    Anyone else notice that he says “parentheses” but its really quotes?

  • PorkFrydRice

    July 26, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    I actually have Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles World Tour, but it was for DOS not the Commodore 64 although I’m sure it’s the same thing. I remember seeing this in a store when I was a kid and wanting it because I thought it was a Ninja Turtles game, but it really isn’t. Basically you get a picture of the turtles at Stonehenge or something like that then you can color it in on the computer. Of course this was before color printers so you would just get a colorless image if you tried to print it out. But I do remember you could print out the picture with a calendar of the month if you really wanted to. Oh and I think if you clicked on the name of the location on the pictured you’d get some history of the place too. Damn, educational games.

  • hajpermegaman

    July 26, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    If anyone wonders, the reason they had games on cassette tapes was that tapes were dirt cheap. Even back then, you could get a brand new game for something like 2 or 3 bucks. It probably sucked but still. Also they were compatible with standard music cassettes, you could even copy a game cassette in a standard stereo deck! And a 90 minute music cassette could hold a shitload of games. You wrote down the position on the tape ticker and fast forwarded to the game you wanted. So yeah, tapes sucked cause of load times and read errors, but they were a dirt cheap way to get games.

  • M3n747

    July 26, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    Man, you suck so much at using C64, it hurts me to watch. Hint: the reason the second game doesn’t work is because you didn’t run it after loading it. And the backspace is the INS/DEL key.

  • July 26, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    I had the same game, but not on NES or C64. I had it on the Amega 500. Was actually a good game if you played Donatello.
    James, I seriously recommend you looking at Amega stuff.

  • GeedAwesome

    July 26, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    You were supposed to type in “RUN” after the 2nd game, James. The syntax error was from when you were trying to type shit with the controller plugged in.

  • July 26, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    Hey Mike, I had a colouring book that didn’t work as a kid. All the pages were brown to prevent photocopying piracy…:)

    PS. James you look like evil James with that leather jacket, sort of the anti nerd…just need an evil gotee.

    Love the site.

  • July 26, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    epic, I’d love to see more of these, fun to hear you two talk about games!

  • dino666

    July 26, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    i had that TMNT game on a tandy1000. it had more then just 1 button and was actually superior then the NES one. My brother had a copy of it about 20 years ago. We had the same piece of brown paper with the codes on it. But i recall after having the game for about 3 months the manual was lost and we couldn’t play the game anymore. By then my brother had copied out by hand about 25 of the codes prior to loosing the actual manual. so when we wanted to play we hope it would ask for one of the 25 codes we had. lol

  • ganthore

    July 26, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    Guys…

    All you need to do for the tape game is….

    1) Make sure that the tape is totally rewound.
    2) Place tape in deck.
    3) In the console, just type LOAD.
    4) The console should then tell you to press play on the tape deck.
    5) Tape will be loaded, hit the C (commodore key) to load the program to the screen.

    Need more info let me know. You can email me off my website. http://www.silverdire.com

  • evets90

    July 26, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Might be a dumb question but did you hit play on the deck?

  • Analbag Thats Me

    July 26, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    Hey James, nice job doing the Turtles games. I particularly love this episode because the Tutles Ultra game was the first game I ever owned when I was a little kid. I also owned a Ghostbusters 2 game on the computer made by Activision. It was actually really awesome! I always wished that when you reviewed your 3 part Ghostbusters series you talked about it. Here is the link to which game it is in case you ever decide to do another review like this one for Ghostbusters:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ3mqMBiKv4&feature=channel_video_title

    If memory serves me right, this game was actually unlicensed.

  • itscmillertime

    July 26, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    The end reminds me of when my friends and I made games for the TI-83 in 8th grade…. we didn’t really pay much attention in algebra. My friend made this one game called “alchemy” where you try and build windmills to make gold… only problem is if you play too long the calculator runs out of memory and then your calculator crashes because it runs out of RAM. son of a beach!

  • MikeyNewJin

    July 26, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    Never knew these existed

  • Morris

    July 26, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    What is that red box on the shelf above the commodore monitor at 10:21? I’d like to know.

    I’m astonished that the Commodore 64 could play games like that. Gotta love how rigid and unforgiving those old computers were.

    Play more Commodore games!

  • July 26, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    Man, the Commodore version of the Ultra game looked SO SLOW and sounded strange compared to the NES one.

  • Kenshiroh

    July 26, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    I had the Commodore 64 port of the NES game when I was a kid. There was a certain point in the game where it would just freeze (on one of the overhead map screens) and you couldn’t go any further. Because of this bug I was never able to finish the game.

    I don’t remember the thing where having a joystick plugged in disabled some of the keys. I thought that I just left the joystick plugged in all the time. (Although some games used joystick port one while others used port two, so you would sometimes have to switch.)

  • scarmullet

    July 26, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    You should get a hold of the MS-DOS Port of the NES Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles game, its literally unbeatable. There is a jump you cant make.

  • Gustav

    July 26, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    I usually like your videos, but this is wasting other people’s time! You shold AT LEAST know the right syntax and commands for the C64. You could EASILY look that up on the net. This seemed a little tired. Quality over quantity!

  • July 26, 2011 at 10:52 pm

    A t-shirt does exist! And I love these vids, always informs me of stuff I never knew about before! Keep it up

  • Jackred89

    July 26, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    First off what a great video though two of those games didn’t work.

    I am really happy to hear Freddy Krueger my favorite horror movie killer is going to be in Mortal Kombat.

    After seeing a couple of videos showing the Commodore 64 that I am kinda glad I never got it.

    Bottom line if you have a good console with 64 in the title then go out to buy yourself an Nintendo 64.

  • Solitary

    July 26, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    James, about C64… you have to understand that command, you used ‘load “*”,8,1′ because it means that you load all content (that’s the “*”) and “,1″ means you want run the first file. If the executable is not the first it won’t work, so I would suggest to you to use only ‘load “*”,8′ and then do ‘list’ after that you find the executable program file in the list of content (something like ’50 “name_of_file” PRG’), you can actually load the file as in ‘load “name_of_file” ,8,1′ . If you know what you do, C64 is very reliable… I got mine when I was 3years old, now, 20years later it still works as a charm and all disc are readable.

  • tjsynkral2

    July 26, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    Oww… That is a double quote, not a parenthesis… Goofs like that make my head hurt.

  • ajgenard

    July 27, 2011 at 12:03 am

    It’s hard to imagine that such drastic measures needed to be taken to boot up a game on consoles and computers of years gone by. Today’s kids are spoiled rotten with their near 100% easy-as-pie game loading.

  • July 27, 2011 at 12:13 am

    ” are actually quotations, not parentheses, haha. Not to sound like an asshole. But a it’s very common mistake. Anyways, I love watching these Turtle Tuesdays!

  • werdman24

    July 27, 2011 at 12:16 am

    Oh my god. I remember Color a Dinosaur! For some reason, I chose that over Battleship on the NES.

    Load “*”,8,1 UGGHH. LMAO!!!

    I wonder if Donatello is Rocksteady’s nightmare in the C64 version.

  • irondrake

    July 27, 2011 at 1:18 am

    Hello there,

    Usually, after you load the program in memory, you should type “run” at the command prompt.

    But, as Solitary says, it’s better to just load the executable program.

    Regards!

  • benjigoenitz

    July 27, 2011 at 1:38 am

    I really enjoy this videos =), great job James and Mike ;D

  • July 27, 2011 at 1:42 am

    I forgot that the original TMNT game was ported to C64. I think I only saw it played like twice in my whole life. I will tell you that it makes you appreciate the NES version lol especially that crappy C64 music.

    The world tour game I have never heard of. I was laughing so hard at the part where you guys were singing. lol

    Great video James!

  • krazyzark

    July 27, 2011 at 2:09 am

    I used to play all kinds of stuff on my dad’s C64. The all time best game I ever played on it was Zorro. Talk about insane puzzle solving. ,8,1 was almost a mantra back then. I definitely need to find one of those t-shirts.

  • systemchaos

    July 27, 2011 at 2:38 am

    There is a build in tool to calibrate the tape drive. I just don’t remember which F button starts it up … o_O

  • Matthew_Of_Wales

    July 27, 2011 at 3:23 am

    Nice! All this computer talk reminds me of Ski Free on Windows 98.

  • Steven T

    July 27, 2011 at 3:58 am

    C64 had the best version of Ghostbusters.

    http://www.c64-wiki.com/index.php/Ghostbusters

  • Savikain

    July 27, 2011 at 3:59 am

    I love the fact that you guys made this video…. in fact I love most of the video’s you post… but I think you could have done 5-15 minutes of research on the internet to figure out why you couldn’t get the games to work.

    For example, I was trying to get Burn:Cycle to work on my Windows 7 desktop…. tried Dosbox, but couldn’t do it for the life of me… then I looked online and saw that the only way to get it to work was to run a virtual machine running windows 95 or 98…. for some reason I could not get that to work so I did the next best thing and installed Windows 98 in an old laptop from 2000 I had lying around.

    Anyway, the point is I got it to work and it only took me 5 minutes of research , a little less than an hour to get the OS and necessary drivers installed and 10 minutes to search for the disc(It wasn’t in its case… had to search through a few stacks of cd’s).

    Once again, I watched almost everything you’ve posted for the last 3 years, I check the site every day for new things and I even watched the OA’s videos(which I think you and Mike are hilarious in, Matt & Lee are ok…. but don’t get me started on “Susie”(whom I’m sure would be much funnier without that horrible, horrible fake accent that makes me want to kill))

    So please, do a little research(or read some of the posts that tell you what you did wrong) and maybe next Turtle Tuesday we can see how hilariously awful the other games are and maybe we can see more C6 games in future AVGN’s….anyway, the alcohol is making me ramble…. keep up the good work!!

  • Savikain

    July 27, 2011 at 4:01 am

    *C64

  • Olli S.

    July 27, 2011 at 5:18 am

    Do yourself a favour and get a Competition Pro Joystick, James

  • July 27, 2011 at 5:49 am

    After you put in the LOAD command, sometimes it will just load the disk to memory. At the next READY prompt, just type RUN and press enter.

    I grew up with a Commodore. Check out Project Firestart, that’s a pretty badass game. There’s also Jet Boot Jack, Fearless Fred, Time Tunnel, Grandma’s House, Forbidden Forest, Caverns of Khafka; and Potty Pigeon is a funny concept. So there are some decent C64 games, and also many that would make for good AVGN material.

  • July 27, 2011 at 7:12 am

    If it says Syntax error, you entered the wrong command.
    It’s been a while but I can remember that much ;)

  • SlyShaDow

    July 27, 2011 at 7:22 am

    James/Mike, for the cassettes do this

    LOAD

    “Press play on tape.”

    RUN

    Anything in quotation is what the C64 will ‘write’ back

  • mtime

    July 27, 2011 at 7:33 am

    If Load”*”,8,1 doesn’t work… then you can get the ‘list’ of the content by typing the following.

    LOAD”$”,8 (Then press enter)

    now type the word LIST

    It will list a bunch of files on the disk. Try to find the title of the game in some form. It might be TMNTWT or TMNT_World.

    Then use the title in your load statement, but with only ,8 … like this.

    LOAD”TMNTWT”,8 (then press enter)

    If it asks for more… type RUN

  • mtime

    July 27, 2011 at 7:48 am

    Man, if we are talking C64 games…. check out.

    H.E.R.O.
    Bozo’s Night Out (I always thought this was Bozo the Clown trying to get home from work. But it’s really just some bozo guy trying to get home from a bar after drinking more each night)
    Who Framed Roger Rabbit (it’s worse than NES)
    Space Taxi
    Jumpman
    Double Dragon (Worst one ever)
    BlueMax
    PitStop

    Most others I remember are ports from other systems or arcade (dig dug, donkey kong, jungle hunt….)

  • nezimar

    July 27, 2011 at 7:49 am

    I had the World Tour one for DOS when I was a kid. It’s not even a game. You literally just wait for it to load pictures of the turtles in different locations around the world. Then you fill in the colors kind of like Mario Paint. Can’t believe I remember that shit now. Awesome. Thanks James, lol!

    http://tmnt.wikia.com/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles:_World_Tour

  • July 27, 2011 at 8:53 am

    For the last two games, you would need to type “RUN” and press return for the game to start :).

  • TaroHound

    July 27, 2011 at 9:15 am

    Nice vid James and Mike. But wouldn’t it have been even better if you guys did 5 minutes of research first on how to get the games to work?
    Now it just comes of as lazy.

  • Valis77

    July 27, 2011 at 9:48 am

    Let Me help You James and Mike. Theres a channel called Cubex55 they have the alot, i mean alot of games uploaded you name it they got it. Just search Tmnt and you will see all the Ninja turtles game. Just little info. ^_^

  • Valis77

    July 27, 2011 at 9:48 am

    it’s on youtube BTW!

  • Garok

    July 27, 2011 at 9:48 am

    I had have the European Version of the game (Here in Italy). It was the same NES game, but with lesser levels and without extra weapons (no shurikens). It was really really bad!

  • July 27, 2011 at 10:36 am

    The heck was that for some kind of controller for the C64?
    Living in Norway I have NEVER seen that piece of shit :P
    We had a sturdy, hardplastic black/red joystick with 2 buttons that could take a beating like a mofo.

  • Exiro

    July 27, 2011 at 10:40 am

    -”I do know that a coloring book would work.”
    -”… A-HAH”

  • MaaZeus

    July 27, 2011 at 10:43 am

    I saw you had the cassette running before executing the proper command so you propably just botched up the loading process.

    Rewind the game
    Type LOAD and press enter (or was it return in C64)

    It will tell you to press Play so do so. After few seconds it will tell you what game it tries to load, and then continues for loooong time. Sometimes the game autostarts after loading, sometimes you have to write RUN to start the game.

  • July 27, 2011 at 11:35 am

    Quotation marks and parentheses are not the same thing.

  • freakshowz

    July 27, 2011 at 11:54 am

    You should use this command instead. The commodore will store the last memory location used in memory when you use the command your using. Generally this may cause the subsequent games not to work after you enter the command the first time. Either that or shut it off and turn it back on then try the command again.
    LOAD “:*”,8,1

    Dont forget the colon.

  • July 27, 2011 at 11:58 am

    james, james, james,… “*”,8,1 is load first program on disk, but some games the boot program isn’t the first program. I don’t know what the code may be but it would have been something like (LOAD “turtles”,8) as for the tape drive command i’m not sure what it might be. but you could try directoring the tape (LOAD “$”) p.s. directoring a disk is (LOAD “$”,8

  • July 27, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    Trying to get into C64? Come to SlayRadio.org and we may be able to help.
    Maybe you should do more research on the Load commands (c64 wiki) and do a proper Nerd episode, but it can wait until after the movie.

  • ganthore

    July 27, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    @evets90 – On Jame’s tape deck the play button is the 2nd button from the left. Looks like he has one of the newer models – The 1530 C2N. There was also a 1531 model which was black.

    It’s kinda hard to see with the image blurring when I try to pause the video but I’m 100% sure that is the model.

    Again if anyone has any other questions about the tape deck’s operation please feel free to email me. My email form is on my website:

    http://www.silverdire.com

  • July 27, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    Again, the poor controls is due to that weird controller you had for the C64 and using one for another system later.
    Here in Europe we had a great, sturdy controller with 2 buttons that’s probably still today known for almost surviving a nuclear explosion.
    You could NOT buy that white piece of shit here.
    Then again, in Europe ( more spesific : Norway ), if you tried selling crap like that, you would come nowhere.
    We know what we buy and check what we buy.
    Get the REAL controller and THEN do a review, ’cause the controls are great with the REAL controller you didn’t get because the US tries to save money all over ;)

  • July 27, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    hey when you put in the load code just saying ” arent parenthases ( these are the ” are quotation marks… just sayin

  • TomM

    July 27, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    he video was great. It was freaking hilarious. Loved the part when Mike was talking about how you should have say this code to play xbox games and stuff. Laughed my ass off! Someone better make this code a t-shirt!!

  • MrWonderful

    July 27, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    Mike annoys the shit out of me for trying so hard. Had to mute my sound at 8:30.

  • machmoth

    July 27, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    Fun little trick for the Ultra TMNT game, you can stick to the wall by jumping against a wall and holding down. So many ways to screw with it. Using this trick, you can very easily skip over Bebop and kill Rocksteady first. However, if he’s dead, he doesn’t kidnap April, who remains just standing in front of the door, wounding you if you touch her.

    In the dam stage, you can only die by the insta-kill seaweed or the timer. The electric kelp can take you to zero health, but you don’t actually die until the start of the next stage.

    Unfortunately, I could never get past the overworld stage after that. There were multiple places you can get inescapably stuck and one point where the game would freeze that I never figured out a way past.

    The strange thing is you do get used to playing the game with one button after time. It requires the faintest of taps to attack instead of jump, but we gamers adapt and conquer. This game meant a lot to me as a kid, because while my friends all had Nintendos, I had a C64. It did wonders for my console envy and gave us some common ground to talk about.

  • Rebellion777

    July 27, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    Probably a stupid question but, why do you say paraphrases when it looks like you typed a quotation mark?. Don’t wanna be an asshole but I’m just kinda curious. either way i agree there should totally be a t-shirt with that code on it. Also i don’t blame you for not reviewing ET. I’m stupid and actually downloaded an Atari emulator on my computer and got a few of the more famous Atari games for it, in rom form of course. Anyway long story short ET was the only rom that worked properly, and i died a little inside.

  • pjalle

    July 27, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    I dunno…I like AVGN, but I can’t help that this episode is about poking cheap shots to what was for its time a great (and relatively cheap) computer system and also one of the milestones in gaming history,

    No arrow keys? Those were rare on computer systems of the time. Should we mock the NES for not having 10 buttons and analogue controllers? etc

  • staypuftlova

    July 27, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    You know whats funny James, When you had to type the code in to start the first game lol i remember the exact words for the code in the Dracula nerd video just goes to show how much i love the vids that i would say the exact digest out

  • July 27, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    my nickname says it

    To load a game from tape, all you gotta do is hold SHIFT and press RUN/STOP.
    (yeah, rewind it before).

    INST/DEL is BACKSPACE on C64.
    The C64 is pretty time consuming getting used to (especially the cursor keys) but once you got the hang…bam! This thing kicks fucking ass! Dunno why your keyboard doesn’t work while joystick is attached, doesn’t happen on any of my C64, unless there is a stuck key on joystick.

    Try Winter Games on the C64. It has all games, they’re done way better than the NES version and…

    you can SKIP the intro!
    btw Hot Dog is NOT Ski Jump.

    @Johnny Lunder: I bet you mean that Competition Pro Joystick. I have three of them. Yeah, they’re built to last, forget everything else.

  • Wanderer

    July 27, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    Hey, you said all the middle buttons don’t work for some reason, maybe those button are for if you don’t have a controller, like they are up, down, left, right and the button. That could also mean if the controller is plugged in, maybe you could type in the missing letters with that controller!

  • CPC_RedDawn

    July 27, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    OMG! Bring back so many memories! This was my first ever “console” if you can call it that :)

  • Milosz006

    July 27, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    James! You should use a Commodore 64 emulator to play those other 2 games. Here’s one for Mac: http://www.infinite-loop.at/Power64/

    It’s time you change your anti-emulator position anyway. ;d

  • Razzy

    July 27, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    WOW, Just WOW.
    I was born in ’72. You come across as the little dumb shit that would hang around at my house and talk about Mario Bros being cool. Then I would Load up Test Drive or Ace of Aces on the C64 and blow your mind.
    To quote you yourself (and Mike)
    “Game doesn’t work” NO, You don’t seem to know the first thing about a computer.
    I should make a video of me Googling Cinemassacre.com and when the site comes up, I’ll just put the arrow over it and hit the space bar and say,
    “Stupid site doesn’t work. It’s days are over.”
    Yeah that’s you. Unless you’re fucking with us, which is a distinct possibility.
    Duhhhhhhhhh, I put the tape in ….Duhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • Razzy

    July 27, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    I Hate to double post but they just called the computer the “Keyboard”
    Fucking retards.

  • GoneTomorrow

    July 27, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    These are parentheses: ( )
    These are quotation marks:” “

  • Elvenking

    July 27, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    Can you please just review or speak about anything having to do with a game for a living. I’ll be yer biggest fan…I swear. I just like hearing you talk about games good and bad. You should become a full time game reviewer. LMAO….of course…that is my destiny for you…I think you;d be perfect..and there is no defacto game reviewer…but i think you look at it intelligently enough..and you could be the first. Retro and new.

  • Chaoticmicah

    July 27, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    A Video Game On A Cassette Tape? HA Imagine like your sister back in the 80′s made a Mix Tape out of it with My Little Pony and Rainbow Bright Music. Back than I’d be pissed lmao! Than again I was born in the 90′s.

  • PhunkyPhazon

    July 27, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Holy crap, I forgot World Tour existed. I had that on Windows 95, and don’t worry you didn’t really miss anything. It really is just a coloring book with predictably lame puns (“Leaning tower of PIZZA, lol). No more, no less. But being only four or five years old at the time, it didn’t really need to be anything else.

  • Rasengan999

    July 27, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    @Razzy

    Hey Razzy, shut the heck up you retarded troll. No one cares about your preciously obsolete Commodore.

  • Calbus

    July 27, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    You know what’s bullshit? That this vid won’t play on an iphone. Instead I have to buy this fucking app! Ok really tho I know apple can suck a cock for not allowing flash but sites need to get with it and add a lil extra support. I’m sure it’s a good vid

  • July 27, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    Emulators are the way go man. I prefer the physical game but emulators are nicer; they don’t mess up, you don’t have to worry about not getting them started, and they record your gameplay for you.

    I use my xbox 360 controller and my gamecube controller when i play them so i’m not hunched over a keyboard.

  • jx

    July 27, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    @ Razzy, fuck you! get the fuck out of here troll. if you dont like their videos don’t leave stupid comments. and james did not call the computer a “keyboard”, he was actually referring to the keyboard, moron

  • July 27, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    I had the Hyperstone Heist instead of the Turtles in Time one. It was shorter & they went cheap with it by making a level where you just fight the first three bosses again (just after you fought the third stage one, who’s an asshole by the way). The music was still great & you get a little extra ending where it shows Shredder fall to his “death” and the Hyperstone break. I’ve been using DOSBOX to play some of my older games & some abandonware, as they call it. I’d like to see James try out some DOS games and more Commodore 64 ones, since I guess it’s kind of unknown territory for him, and for me when it comes to the Commodore 64.

  • SparcMan

    July 27, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    Probably had an issue with the keyboard because of the Genesis controller.
    I didn’t have those games, but that ol C64 brings back lots of great memories.
    I think you should have brought in a guest that knows the C64 well.
    Also the disks being old could have disks that went bad.

  • WestBuiltAMountain

    July 28, 2011 at 12:07 am

    @ Razzy

    Might want to calm down there a little bit and stop taking the Internet so seriously.

  • Natural

    July 28, 2011 at 12:22 am

    Hearing mike just freak out about the Commodore 64 paper is freaking funny!.mike sounds realkly excited LOOLOLO!.

  • Calavera

    July 28, 2011 at 1:00 am

    I think the games probably worked but you just didn’t know enough about the C64 to get them to work. But hey I’m not complaining about it, who could blame you, it’s hard to remember the commands for a almost 30 year old computer

  • matthewlee

    July 28, 2011 at 1:05 am

    Love all the turtle videos!!!

  • Belmont69

    July 28, 2011 at 1:36 am

    @Razzy
    You’re 39 years old and you have nothing better to do then troll you’re so cool.

  • SomeFinnishDude

    July 28, 2011 at 1:36 am

    I’m pretty sure Razzy needs to chill out.

  • nerdyguy64

    July 28, 2011 at 1:37 am

    Guessing you couldnt get the last one to work, damn. Guess ya just have to play around with the machine, but nice video like to see more stuff like this!

  • benizuka

    July 28, 2011 at 2:04 am

    is it just me when i picture james as dr. frankenstein and mike as fritz? if james said “eating shit is cool”, would mike make a hearty casserole out of it? good video btw; punctuation aside, it brought back many fond memories of commodore 64

  • July 28, 2011 at 3:11 am

    Actually, the World Tour game *did* work. You got it to load: the screen says “Ready.” It just didn’t auto-run, like the other game.

    All you had to do was type “RUN” and it would’ve worked.

    “It’s old …”

  • July 28, 2011 at 3:18 am

    Also, the cassette command is just

    LOAD”*”,1

    “,1″ is the cassette drive.
    “,8″ is the disk drive.

    To load games off the disk drive, you COULD technically just type

    LOAD”*”,8

    But for some reason, typing

    LOAD”*”,8,1

    makes it load faster. Or something. At least, that’s what I was told when I was a kid. I’m sure it’s not true.

    So basically, barring that the cassette tape is ruined beyond repair, you could have gotten all three games to work.

    Just sayin’.

  • July 28, 2011 at 4:08 am

    ahhh, C 64
    most avant-garde computer on earth.

    You should use a small screwdriver to tune the tape recorder. Enter to the option by checking the help menu. That’s how it works in the European version of C64. obviously does not say that it will work (in all likelihood not), but the ridiculous performance with a screwdriver is interesting from an artistic point of view anyway, so think about it!.
    it’s like playing shitty game like the silver surfer, but in the discourse of Tate Modern -
    if you know what I mean.

    anyway,

    for a long time, you’re probably my favorite contemporary artists, because you do not focus on the contemporary art. you create it involuntarily. I am very curious of your feature film. Remember, however, that the strength of your messages is their honesty and reliance. Not the technical aspects and special effects. You can insert the camera into the washing machine and do with this interesting story. This is your power. I try to show your videos to the academic artists who have no idea about games, because you are the best guide through the intricacies of popular culture ( shoulder to shoulder with Henry Jenkins and Z. Bauman – but from the perspective of a culture text common user with a symptom of Peter Pan, and that is brilliant way). Congratulate and thank you for your work.

    I apologize for my English. I tried as best I could.

  • xdkaphx

    July 28, 2011 at 4:15 am

    I had the one with the password page on the Amstrad CPC 464. i used to love it!

  • Stevus

    July 28, 2011 at 5:01 am

    I’m so happy to see a video regarding Commodore 64 games. I grew up with LOAD”*”,8,1. Or EA for Electronic Arts games. There’s so many little things you can do with the commodore 64 that was so ridiculously complicated. Like this book I had that told how to program the computer to play music, but it was paragraph long codes to even do row row your boat. I would love to see James and Motherfucker Mike in a game of M.U.L.E. I know a lot of people waiting for a M.U.L.E. comeback.

  • jbartee

    July 28, 2011 at 8:31 am

    The reason certain keys don’t work when you’ve got a joystick plugged in is because your CIA_1 chip is fried. It is usually socketed on the motherboard and is an easy job to replace.

    Using unmodified genesis controllers is known to cause this exact pattern of damage. There’s a simple diode mod you can do on gen controllers to make them safe to use and prevent further damage to the CIA_1: http://metroidc64.blogspot.com/2007/10/finally-genesis-controller-on-my.html

  • July 28, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    i love to see postings from people that never used the commodere before trying to be a smartasses, and people from the 80′s and 70′s that supposly played on the commodore trying to be a smartasses. the whole objective of this video was to demostrate that this piece of crap wasnt easy to use, at least not fo the kids (excluding the nerdy kids like 99% of the people here coming to troll), you know how to use that thing now just becouse you have the all mighty internet, but try to search for the commands on the 80′s. So stop being a jerks and enjoy the video, or atleast enjoy life god dammit.

  • Xyno

    July 28, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    Why this is not just LOAD…because you can have more tha 1 software on a disk and more than one driver so the Asterisk is the first soft on the disk, 8 is the destination of the driver and 1 is for binary if I remember well !
    In Contra…you press space bar to jump hahaha

    and yeah DOS was awesome !!!
    btw you should have reset the C64 when it says out of memory…64kb ram runs out pretty fast you know ! ;)

  • July 28, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    The problem with older magnetic storage systems like that is over time it can demagnetize, and ruin the disc.

    I challenge you to try games on the TI-99 !

  • Epni

    July 28, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    I really enjoyed this video James and Mike! Good stuff!

  • July 28, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    An interesting little look at the Commodore 64, I have to admit. I can’t imagine trying to figure that thing out back in the day. I think the conversations you had are probably the best part of the video! Fun stuff. I wouldn’t mind seeing more about the ole Commodore. :)

  • frankblack66

    July 28, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    It’s seemed like the video was ad libbed and just for fun. I think if James wanted to he could have figured more out about the C64 before the video. I had an Apple and a C64 as a kid. C64 had better graphics and sound but was very confusing to work and had possibly the SLOWEST disk drive ever. You must have been using some super disk drive or edited the video because it would take even simple games what seemed like an hour to load.

  • Nathaniel

    July 28, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    @frankblack66

    Of course it was ad-lib. You need something to do while waiting for the C64 to possibly work, so might as well just bullshit while you’re sitting there. :p

    @James and Mike
    Despite the first game only working for you two, I found your random conversations rather funny while patiently waiting for the others to run. People had to be very patient back then and listening to you two just shoot the shit is exactly what I would be doing too, lol.

    It’s always fun to watch videos like this, regardless if it has any real outline or not. Despite the fact you spent around 10 minutes trying to get the games running and mostly talking in between, I found it very entertaining none the less. :) Keep up the great and funny work! ^^

  • July 28, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    I grew up with the commodore 64 and I understand that the american crowd kinda missed the whole “thing” behind their NTSC-reginal treshold but this is just insulting. Then however, Konami’s effort on C64-platform also was so I guess it’s deserved. But it’s like watching two guys trying to fuck a hot chick with their elbows and wondering what’s wrong with her.

  • alexthefast2

    July 28, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Can I have your Commodore 64 AVGN, plzz.
    I am from Australia

  • deusprogrammer

    July 28, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    Man…this brings back memories. This was my first video game system. I miss playing Impossible Mission on it. Good times. You should see if you can find a Fast Boot cartridge. It made the Commodore 64 boot so much faster. It loaded the game onto it (like extra RAM essentially). That way it just loaded from the Fast Boot cartridge instead of the disk. I seem to remember having a Joystick with two buttons on it too.

  • alexthefast2

    July 28, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    i love cock

  • alexthefast2

    July 28, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    that was not me.

  • alexthefast2

    July 28, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    SPAM!

  • diddlydoo

    July 28, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    woah!is that a Commodore Amiga 600 in the backround?now let’s see some stuff on that baby!

    most excellent review

  • Lish

    July 28, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    I grew up playing the Sesame Street games on Commodore 64, lol. Loved the video!

  • July 28, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    awesome video, I have a tandy color computer 2 or a TRS-80. I believe its known as a coco2 on some sites but as far as I know its a commodore 64 clone? takes carts though in the side of the keyboard nistead. I have games like Silpheed. sokoban, Dungeons of daggorath and doubleback. Always awesome to see you bust out something that ancient :P do you have a trs-80 james? just curious if it might be something u’d llike to see, I have all the programming books for it, no tape deck though. I’d love to contribute to your episodes in some way if you needed anything. :D
    don’t know if you will see this but pixeljustice20xx@hotmail.com is my email. have a good one james!

  • jccarlos

    July 28, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    wow if this thing sucks so bad i would hate to see a commoder 64 emulator ):/

  • July 29, 2011 at 12:08 am

    OH DEAR GOD

    YOU DID NOT TYPE “RUN”

  • dukeofnuyorka1

    July 29, 2011 at 12:17 am

    load “*thisgameishorseshit” ,8,1
    searching for “*thisgameishorseshit”
    loading…

    syntax error?
    go fuck yourself

  • JJRambo

    July 29, 2011 at 12:18 am

    Man i gotta say … the Atari 800xl computer was leagues above the commodore in ease of use … that’s for sure.

    I still play mine and you just insert disk, reset the computer and hold option … loading … please wait …. BOOM bruce lee time

  • Inkrypted

    July 29, 2011 at 1:48 am

    Ask Mike how you run Final Cut Pro in DOS.

  • July 29, 2011 at 3:12 am

    Mike needs his own show.

  • rom hunter

    July 29, 2011 at 6:36 am

    James,

    With the second game:
    After the prompt LOADING READY, type: RUN and press RETURN

    With the cassette game:
    Rewind the tape first, type LOAD and press RETURN
    The prompt PRESS PLAY ON TAPE will appear.
    Press the Play button on your Datassette player.
    The whole screen will turn into the color of the border and after a few seconds the game will be found.
    Press the spacebar and the game will automatically load and autostart after a while.

    Easy as pie.

    8)

  • Zuppermati97

    July 29, 2011 at 7:35 am

    MotherfuckerMike is the baddest cameramen of the world XD

  • Mister Buckethead

    July 29, 2011 at 9:21 am

    My god…. you should do a remake of your ” NINTENDO SIXTY FOUUUUR “toilet video, but instead, you would be fuckin pissed, and shouting COMMODORE SIXTY FOUUUR è_é and take a dump ON the computer xD

  • PoLaR

    July 29, 2011 at 9:21 am

    Good post :D

    Very entertaining haha I like seeing you guys In you’re own characters. I couldn’t even imagine trying to beat that first Turtles game on the C64.. even with the genesis controller :5

  • l19f9

    July 29, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    for the TMNT World Tour game try this:

    sometimes Load “*”,8,1 does not work for every game

    try typing Load “$”,8,1 and you will be prompted READY
    then type list instead of run and a list of files will scroll down
    sometimes in this list you will get the actually name of the executable file like in DOS.
    try a few different files, but usually it is the top file listed
    you then type Load “name of file” ,8,1 and it might prompt you READY again and you type RUN… give it a try you never know

  • SovereignHope

    July 29, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    The “Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles” was a port of the arcade game. Well, more accurately, it was a port of the NES’ “TMNT 2: The Arcade Game.” The reason it was called Hero Turtles was because that version was released in Europe, and there were laws in place that prevented depiction of killing (the term “ninja,” being tied to an idea of an assassin, was right out, so they were the HERO Turtles there instead.) This is the same reason why Super Contra was released in Europe under the name Probotector, and why all the characters in Probotector were robots instead of humans.

    Due to the Commodore 64 controllers only having one button, many concessions had to be done to game controls. In the Ultra TMNT, tapping the button was to use your weapon, and holding it was used to jump (Castlevania used the up and diagonals for jump, tapping the button for whip, and holding the button for using your special weapon; Contra used the space bar for jump, and the button for firing weapons). Hero Turtles used an alternate control scheme of: Joystick = move, Button with no direction = attack, Button with up/diagonal = Jump, Button while jumping = kick, and Button with down = sweep attack (the same as A+B simultaneously on the NES version).

    The reason why your keyboard stopped working when you had the controller plugged in was because the C64 had no idea what the mere presence of the Genesis controller’s buttons were. Apparently, the extra buttons had some kind of signal being passed even when they weren’t pressed that caused the C64 to freak out.

  • LovingPanama

    July 29, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    If you play Contra on the C64 you have to use spacebar to jump. Yeah, it sucks. My brother was able to beat the game using his foot to operate the spacebar.

    Also, a couple shortcuts for you:

    -instead of typing ‘load’ you can type ‘ L shift+o’. The shift+o makes a weird upside-down L looking thing, but it works
    -at the ready prompt you can type ‘list’ or ‘L shift+i’ to view the contents of a disk. Similar to msdos’s dir command. You can actually load files from the directory listing as well, which is especially useful if you’re unable to get it to work with load “*” ,8,1.

  • July 30, 2011 at 2:37 am

    I played Turtles in time recently and hated it. For me the best beat-em all ever is Streets of Rage 3

  • Rydal

    July 30, 2011 at 4:14 am

    Greetings from acoss the pond!

    I can confirm for you that Teenage Mutant “Hero” Turtles is the European PAL version of the the NES game. From what i remember it looked exactly like the version you got to work, but without the load time between screens.

    Hope this helps!

    Rydal

  • Squall85

    July 30, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    It must be strange for you guys the immense loading time but I was raised on games like this. I played mainly c64 and Amiga games, the nintendo didn’t really reach me when I was a kid. Now it did :)

  • Squall85

    July 30, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    That’s a shame, you were unprepared. You could just look up on the net how to make it run, since it’s not live you can edit out the searching or leave it as an interesting part. You didn’t really want to start the cassette based game did you…

  • July 30, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    Aww, you missed the best C64 Turtles game by far – http://www.lemon64.com/games/details.php?ID=2612 (based on the scrolling beat-em-up arcade game)

  • July 30, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    That reminds me a lot of my old TRS-80. The cassette player attatched to it was called a CTR-80-A. And don’t ask me how I remembered that, because I have no idea.

  • CSMovieDude

    July 31, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    My oldest computer is an HP PC that runs on Windows ME. I was messing around with the computer and looking at all the programs on it, and I clicked on Start, Accessories, and I found an MS-DOS prompt. I clicked on it and I saw a black screen with a text thing. I entered just, a bunch of stupid stuff, like dir, and all of a sudden a bunch of text started appearing. It was cool. After doing research, I learned that DOS was what people used before Windows was introduced. All I could think was WOW.

  • CoreyXP

    August 1, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Hey James,

    For the “Hero Turtles” casette game, simply make sure the tape is rewinded all the way, type “LOAD” and then hit the “RETURN” key, as per usual.

    Then you should get a prompt saying “PRESS PLAY ON TAPE” on your display. Then, just press the “PLAY” key on the tape deck and you’re good to go!

    I remember donating that cartridge, so I’m glad you got some use out of it! I recall only getting it to work a few times, but if you try I promise it will load.

  • August 1, 2011 at 10:28 am

    Why are you wearing a jacket indoors?

  • August 1, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Those are quotation marks, not parentheses.

  • ponyboy556

    August 1, 2011 at 4:34 pm

  • August 1, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    Another good video. this is the first time i’ve commented.

    Just wanted to inform you that the Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles game on the cassete you have there is the same as Turtles 1. Its just the european copy.

    i used to have the game as a kid

  • August 2, 2011 at 1:22 am

    LOL You guys act like the internet doesn’t exist. Don’t know something: go look it up!!!

  • August 2, 2011 at 5:03 am

    I just love Mike’s laugh

  • z

    August 2, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    rewind tape, type “LOAD” and hit return.. wait then when shit comes up on the screen press space bar,

  • Crod

    August 3, 2011 at 1:18 am

    Commodore 64 used to rule back in the day but you’re not loading the two last games properly.
    Plus, why do you say ‘parentheses’ when you’re typing the ” quotation marks?

    LOAD (*),8,1 ???
    That’s just not right…..

  • keith978

    August 3, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    there is a reason that the english games won’t work and it is not because you are loading them wrong. the reason they won’t work is because the games are designed for a english PAL format commodore 64.

  • The Kaleidoscopic God

    August 4, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    There ARE shirts of “LOAD “*”,8,1″!

  • August 4, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    For future reference: The commodore 64 was designed to connect to a televison set. I don’t know if the first model like the one you used in this vedo required an adapter (I had the updated C model that came with the 1541 II disk drive) but in either case it is not difficult to do. Hooking it up to a VCR would record the display far more easily.

    • c64kicksass

      February 22, 2012 at 4:56 pm

      The C64 has S-Video out, so you can connect it to a professional video grabber card. James already did that in earlier reviews. This is not a review, so he didn’t connect it.

      Also composite (RCA) and RF(UHF), as you mentioned. All models have these 3 outputs.

  • cardboardbox

    August 6, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    Wow, the commodore paper.. I had an Atari ST that used the same stuff, took equally long to print, AND I did the exact same thing as James with it :) You guys really took me back here, looks like you have alot of fun with your retro setups!

  • supercrapnstuff

    August 7, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    your load code is a T shirt. i should get one i remember that, it was totally unessicary and i asked my nerd friend “why do you need to type all this stuff to load a game?” he said “to piss you off”

  • Macabre215

    August 10, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    There are plenty of those t-shirts.

    http://bit.ly/oWVdwM

  • August 15, 2011 at 3:06 am

    Advice that might help you get those other two games (and others) to work:

    1) The LOAD command by itself normally doesn’t start a game. You have to load, wait until it says READY and then type RUN and hit enter. Some games automatically do this for you by loading the game code into active memory, which is why you don’t have to do it all the time.
    2) To load a tape game, rewind the tape all the way, type LOAD (you don’t need anything else this time) and hit enter. Then press PLAY on the tape deck when instructed. The screen should blank. Once it comes back up and says READY (which can take a while), type RUN and hit enter.

    If anyone is interested in why the long load command is necessary for disk games, it’s because the tape deck was made the default device (Device 1), so when you want to load from something else you have to use the full command: LOAD “”, , where filename is either the specific file or * for the first one on the disk, drive is the drive number (8 is the first disk drive, but you can have to 3 more daisy-chained as 9, 10 and 11) and the flag at the end tells the Commodore whether to load the program in the BASIC RAM area or to use the memory address specified in the file. Normally you’d always want to use 1 because that allows the program to load wherever it needs to, for example to enable the trick mentioned above.

    Another useful command if you’re having trouble finding the file on disk to run is LOAD”$”, 8 (DO NOT specify ,1 this time), followed by LIST. This will list all the files stored on the disk. Some disks used a malformed index to prevent you from doing this; if you have one of those you’re SOL.

  • August 15, 2011 at 3:08 am

    Comments came in messed up. Sorry about that. The LOAD command should have read LOAD”[filename]“, [drive], [memory flag].

  • Ph477

    August 15, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    I think it’s pretty funny how you had so much trouble with getting the games to work on the commodore 64.

    Basically here’s all you need to remember about c64.

    Load”*”,8,1 for 5″1/4 drive. Then type run when/if it says ready.
    Load for cassette. Make sure you rewind tape beforehand. Once again type run when it says ready.

    If the 5″1/4 drive makes some nasty rattle noises when tying to read the disk, either the disk is ruined or the disk drive needs to be cleaned.

    If a game wont respond to pressing controller buttons, try plugging the joysitck into the other control port (some games are written with the wrong port as the primary) or pressing the F keys starting with F1.

    I got told the above information about 17 years ago when i was 5 and still love playing it.

  • ArmitageShanks

    August 18, 2011 at 2:44 am

    To load a tape, you just need to press SHIFT and RUN/STOP from what I remember (or you could manually type “LOAD” and ENTER).

    It should then say “PRESS PLAY ON TAPE” or something (which you would obviously press play on the C2N unit). After that, it should say “FOUND” and the name of the program. You then press the Commodore key (or I think the SPACEBAR wil work too) to continue. At the time it really wasn’t that difficult, although sometimes you had to tweak the tape head alignment to get things to work properly.

    Pity you chose such rubbish games to demonstrate the C64. It had some really awesome titles which made the Nintendo look a bit rubbish to be honest.

    And that “Commodore paper” for the printer? That’s dot-matrix printer paper, and actually common to most computers in the 70s and 80s, not just the C64. Ink jets and laser printers were some way off back then.

    Oh, by the way, parentheses are these things: ( )

  • limegreensquid

    August 21, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    Those books also used to come with red screen reader things, like half a pair of 3D glasses so you can block out the red and see the other coloured lettering.

    I know EXACTLY what you mean about commodore paper! Mom and dad would bring home spare printer paper from work just for us to draw. On one side it was pale yellow stripes, but the other side it was pure white. I used to draw Ninja Turtles on that paper. How fucking appropriate!

    Hah, i remember Donkey, too! On the first laptop my dad ever brought home from work to work with, in the fucking 80s! White, a blue and white screen, and big and bulky!

  • RETRONINJA

    August 22, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    dude im going to start a youtube channel just like you im gunna review only NES and SNES games. PS.i am not trying to steal your ideas but i really look up to you

  • RETRONINJA

    August 22, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    btw. im nine

  • supermark64

    September 1, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    What happens if you put one of those tapes in a regular audio cassette player?

  • September 8, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    @supermark64:
    You hear loud whines, static and scratchy sounds. The data is recorded to the tape in exactly the same way that audio is, but because it’s not an audio signal it sounds really messed up when your casette player tries to convert it to one. You can get the same effect if you find older CD-ROM games where Track 1 was the data and the other tracks were redbook audio (Warcraft 2, Descent II, etc). Play track 1 in your CD player and it will either come out as bad static or the player will skip it if it’s smart enough to detect that it’s not in the right format.

  • Bael

    September 9, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    Hehe, good old times. :) I gonna remember for this command for all my life. :D

    After LOAD”*”,8,1 type RUN when READY, to run the program! :)

    Btw the “*” is means the first program on the (current side of the) disc, the ‘,8,1′ is the device to load.

    If you replace the * to $ it just load the disk (as i remember), and you can LIST the programs.

    Type LOAD before the programs name, and ,8,1 after it, wait for READY, and type RUN to an empty row, press enter and have fun! :)

    Hmm, there isn’t any manual in the game’s box, how to start it? :O

    ________________

    Bael the gun nerd! :]

  • Bael

    September 9, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    Hehe, good old times. :)

    I gonna remember for this command for all my life. :D

    After LOAD”*”,8,1 type RUN when READY, to run the program! :)

    Btw the “*” means the first program on the (current side of the) disc, the ‘,8,1′ is the device to load.

    If you replace the * to $ it just load the disk (as i remember), and you can LIST the programs.

    Type LOAD before the programs name, and ,8,1 after it, wait for READY, and type RUN to an empty row, press enter and have fun! :)

    Hmm, there isn’t any manual in the game’s box, how to start it? :O

    ________________

    Bael the gun nerd! :]

  • Bael

    September 9, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    Hehe, good old times. :)

    I gonna remember for this command for all my life. :D

    Hmm, there isn’t any manual in the game’s box, how to start it? :O

    After LOAD”*”,8,1 type RUN when READY, to run the program! :)

    Btw the “*” means the first program on the (current side of the) disc, the ‘,8,1′ is the device to load.

    If you replace the * to $ it just load the disk (as i remember), and you can LIST the programs. Type LOAD before the programs name, and ,8,1 after it, wait for READY, and type RUN to an empty row, press enter and have fun! :)

    ________________

    Bael the gun nerd! :]

  • absolute.chaoz

    September 12, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    I assume the issue with the keyboard not working properly when the joystick is plugged might be due to N-Key rollover (wiki it). Basically, the printed circuit has a limited number of pathways, and when those are taken by the joystick slot (or another key or combination of keys), the native key wont respond. It also happens on modern keyboards, to a lesser extent. Sometimes trying to strafe, hold crouch and reload on a FPS game will cause the reload not to work until either Ctrl or A is released. More expensive models, however, will have individual PCB pathways for every single key (usually gamer keyboards such as the Lycosa), thereby removing the issue entirely.

  • DamionM

    September 13, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Hey I grew up with the C64… It’s what I learned to program on originally. Try typing LOAD “$”,8 to get the directory listing of the disk. Using the * just loads the first file on the disk which isn’t always the program. Also as a bit of a shortcut type L shift+O instead of typing LOAD. shift+O makes an upside down “L” looking symbol BTW. Cheers

  • EdwardSadiel

    September 15, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    is funny each time the screen goes off

  • theangrycallofdutynerd1212

    September 18, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    coool it works

  • September 19, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    Ah, the Commodore 64. The second best video game console with 64 in its title.

  • September 19, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    So, you’re playing a NES TMNT game on a Commdore 64 with a Genesis controller… EPIC!

  • September 19, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    PS3 should force you to say “UGH!!!” when you watch AVGN episodes via YouTube.

  • Bael

    September 20, 2011 at 8:54 am

    Hmm, is C64 a personal computer or a console? :D

    I think it’s something between the two. :)

    If you use a cartrige it’s like a console.

  • blowmegoogle

    September 22, 2011 at 2:38 am

    At 10:20, I was yelling at the screen, screaming “Type RUN, you stupid nerd! Just type RUN!”

  • Helbaljo

    September 22, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    I think your C64 is busted… Some of the symptoms it exhibits suggest that, like not being able to type while the joystick is plugged in, most of the games not working, etc.

    There’s multiple things which might be broken, the most common thing are the “CIA” chips (Complex Interface Adapter)… you can get replacements on ebay occasionally, but it’s not too easy… most of the time you fare better with just buying multiple C64s, get one of them two work and use the others for spare parts if something goes bad. You can find lots of information online on how to diagnose what’s wrong with your machine. Remember, it’s 20-30 year old hardware, and they were produced to sell for extremely low prices (compared to the competition), so you can expect that…

    By the way, plugging/unplugging controllers while the computer is running and also using a Genesis controller with it is what can fuck up the CIA chips. Also static discharges to the controller ports or the other ports on the back of the unit. These fuckers are very sensitive to electrostatic surges.

    To the question Bael asked: On the unit there is a label that says “Commodore 64 Personal Computer”.

  • October 4, 2011 at 11:21 am

    Psst, James. Quotation marks are not parentheses.

    • cebulips9

      November 18, 2011 at 4:31 pm

      Thank you, I thought i was the only one to notice that!

  • November 13, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    Turtles in Time BY FAR is the best turtles game of all time, on the super nintendo.

  • AleksGospodinov

    December 16, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    This reminds me of my built-in Sonic the hedgehog genesis,3-in one cartridges and extremely strange NES with built-in mario brothers that runs SNES games. That is,if you fidget around with it

  • DiamentaPrincessa

    December 19, 2011 at 3:40 am

    So the most games on Commodore 64 working with joystick plugged in PORT 2 – because when plugged to second port – there’s no problems with keyboard input.

    • c64kicksass

      February 22, 2012 at 4:48 pm

      @DiamentaPrincessa I only get problems with keyboard input when I accidently enable Auto Fire on the joystick. The trouble here is that when plugged in Port 1 I get weird characters and in port 2 the keyboard behaves strange, I ask myself WTF is going on until I notice joystick 2 is on autofire. Since a while I connect joysticks only if I want to play. As I use my C64 mostly to listen to music or watch demos.

  • Severs2010

    January 14, 2012 at 12:09 am

    Don’t know if this has been posted, but I had the World Tour game as a young kid, it is in fact a coloring book game and nothing more.

  • captkutch82

    January 14, 2012 at 9:43 am

    Donkey game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05YI7BfmgPg

  • LeeChance

    January 17, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    I had the original contra for the commodore 64. They way the controls worked was that the button on the controller fired the gun and you had to hit space bar on the keyboard for jump. It was a next to impossible control scheme and I gave up rather quickly.

    • c64kicksass

      February 22, 2012 at 4:44 pm

      @LeeChance how does the 2player mode work?

  • robertmartindunn

    January 29, 2012 at 2:14 am

    your lucky to have the disk drive. I had to wait ages for the tape to load and half the time it would crash before it started…. oh and there was much better joysticks on c64

    • robertmartindunn

      January 29, 2012 at 2:22 am

      take it back…i commented before I saw the cassette. I had the hero turtles…much like the first game.

      oh you know whats bullshit? that annoying advert with its annoying not needing a suit of dogshit armour

  • robertmartindunn

    January 29, 2012 at 2:19 am

    i seem to remember just typing in load “”

  • Erizot

    January 29, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    I noticed on the second game, after he did the load “*”,8,1, it would load it into memory and then say ready…when it does that, you have to type run to get it to work…most games will just load automatically after you do the load command, but some required you to type run before it would move on.

  • Erizot

    January 29, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    Also, sometimes if it’s having a hard time loading the traditional way, you can also do Load “$”,8…then when it says ready, you type List, and it’ll list the directory of whatever is on the disk, and the game tends to be the first thing on the list….then you can cursor up to that and do the load command from there

  • DeanWilks

    February 8, 2012 at 8:38 am

    I had no idea the game on Snes was longer than the Sega version!!! I’ll be playing that for sure! Thanks J-Nerd and Mothafucka-mike

  • Starcraft39

    February 16, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    I think the funniest part about the LAMEstop commercials on Cinemassacre is that some people (like me) avoid it like the plague and even James (I can only assume) would prefer ordering online rather than encourage this ‘exclusive dlc that doesn’t matter but will never be available again’ garbage.

  • OlDirtyVinceDm

    February 20, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    I had some version of Turtles in Time, it was fkn sweet and there wasn’t a single fuck up in it…some games you reviewed were almost identical but even looking through the internet I couldn’t find back the name of it, the graphics were really darker but neat and I never witnessed any glitch while playing through as a kid…I think it was just called ”Mutant Ninja Turtles” or Idk but it can’t be a japan release or some shit because I live in Quebec(I also owned 2 tetris games with different musics idk if that’s special llol)

    • PixelJustice

      February 26, 2012 at 5:25 pm

       @OlDirtyVinceDm Hey dude,  The two tetris games were most likely the Nintendo official tetris  and the Tengen version of tetris.  The turtles game  if it was for the genesis  might have been hyperstone heist  because it had an option in it for cartoon or comic book graphics  which were different color settings, and one was darker than the other.  I’m also pretty close to quebec actually lol, peace dude.

  • ianwright77

    March 11, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    Spoilt kids with their $50 cartridges.

  • Dakkiller1

    March 13, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    You Need to play the DOS Version of that Game
    It makes the NES Original look like DOOM
    WHYBecause you can’t beat the game thats why.
    In redoing the incredible EGA Graphics (Sarcasm) They made a jump impossible by placing the landing spot too far away and the celling too close to your head.
     
    Its a game you can’t beat without cheating

    • EricLarocque

      March 24, 2012 at 11:26 pm

       @Dakkiller1 yes, and also, in sonic unleashed for xbox 360, there is one bar in the chun-nan night stage 1 that is missing the target action when it shouldn’t. i even smacked into the bar directly, and it still didnt target the pole at all. Just face it, sega, your time was over long ago. why wont you go away?

  • eer4

    March 17, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    Doesn’t work on ipad

  • supersheamus

    March 20, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    i remember playing this on c64 i thought back then it was the best games ever

  • tpidgeon

    March 23, 2012 at 11:16 am

    if I remember correctly different games used different commands to load them on the Commodore. What is could be i am not 100% as the last time I used a Commodore was at least 15 or more years ago. LOAD “$”,8 bring up the directory of the disk I think and then you can load a specific file name with LOAD “FILENAME”,8,1. Man I miss my old Commodore 64/128, playing Airborne Ranger, Sid Meyer’s Pirates! etc.

  • EricLarocque

    March 24, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    you guys talked about dos, and i would like to tell you that i managed to find a copy of dos 6.22, the last dos operating system ever, and install it on an old windows 2000 laptop!!! The floppy drive works too, but is slow as hell from regular use. i am still trying to find a dos game for this computer, but when i do, i hope you can wish me luck that it will work!!! anyway, i just wanted to let you know that you can install dos on windows computers that have operating systems windows 2000 or lower. See ya!

  • Aaron1375

    May 8, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    There were words on that brown page?

  • jem777

    May 11, 2012 at 11:59 am

    So… this is a review of your commodore skills, not of the game…. :)
    just because the genesis controller fits, doesn’t mean you are supposed to stick it in there. Your dick fits a light socket too!! If you had an actual commodore joystick plugged in, it doesn’t affect typing at all- just the genesis one. The pin-out is different. I’m also disappointed that you would think having extra buttons would do anything when you know the game only recognizes one… that’s like an old lady turning her monitor off and on to reboot the computer… Also, the command is load”*”,8,1 (8 is like saying C for a drive.. if you have 2 drives, one would be 8 and one would be 9, just like a C and D drive fyi) but you sometimes should try load “*”,8 and then wait for it to say ready, then type run. alternately you can try load “$”,8 when it says ready type “list” (no quotes) that brings up a list of everything on the disk. sometimes you can run a program file from there that will work even when the * didn’t…
    with the tape, you should probably rewind it as well… but then type “load” (i think you can hit the commodore key as well). wait for it to say “press play on tape” (remember Vice city?) then do so…
    C64 is far superior to the other systems- including nintendo. some of my favorite games are on c64, including ghostbusters, which you have to admit is so ridiculously better on c64 than the others! (check out castle wolfenstein, impossible mission, questron, etc etc…)

  • thevisualboy37

    August 21, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    Actually, they’re not parenthesis. They’re quotation marks.

  • bruceleerobot

    August 25, 2012 at 3:21 am

    This is actually one of my favorite videos you guys have done. It’s really good for an impromptu thing like this and it reminds me of times my own friends and I have discovered stuff like this deep in the depths of our basements. Mike is very funny and I like the random topics you guys discuss in this one. You should make another one of these!

  • Hawkear

    August 30, 2012 at 8:48 am

    damn that jacket is swanky

  • zengie

    September 7, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    the datacassette from the commodore 64 was even slower but i wish i still had that crap

  • Katnip Packington

    January 12, 2013 at 1:48 am

    Play the cassette games in a music player… #$@#!@~~!!!!!1

  • DrWho198

    January 25, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    I’m not sure if anyone has mentioned this before, but some games on the C64 needed to be loaded using only the “,8″ (load “*”,8) skipping the “,1″. This has to do with the possition in memory where the game would be loaded. To my knowlage your joystick problem is unique, I don’t recall ever having this problem. However when you put the joystick in port 2(I think) and you move your joystick around, you will get characters inputted in your Basic environment. Your speed problem can also be ‘helped’. Using special cartridges that plug in the back of your C64, your diskdrive will speed up the loading. Most games work with these cartridges, but some games just didn’t like them.

    You just have to know the C64 and learn to understand it to start loving it. It was a powerfull home computer for it’s time. Not designed as a gaming console. One thing is true though… I always would have liked a second button on my joysticks, but all buttons on a C64 joystick do the same thing.

  • BIOnode

    January 29, 2013 at 3:21 am

    WOW – these are the graphics on the commodore? FUCK. I had a sinclair 48k and 128k….I feel robbed : /

  • Tyler Barker

    January 31, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    Ah, the good old Commodore 64. Unfortunately, by the time I was old enough to appreciate it’s greatness ours no longer worked.

  • Nils Granberg

    February 10, 2013 at 8:47 am

    On the second Turles-game (World Tour), you have to type “run” to start it. The game is very rare, and there are almost no info about it…

    On the last one (europan) Tutles game, the cassete must be
    rewinded to the start, then press “shift and runstop” (C64 will type “load”. Typing “load” by ourself make the cassette sometimes load worst. Don´t ask me why? But hey, it´s Bill Gate who is behind that stupid “basic v2″) After “shift+runstop” press play on casseteplayer. But the game is more shittier than the american version, so why play it?

  • February 25, 2013 at 11:03 am

    I naver play the commodore and I hate it

  • remylebeau

    February 27, 2013 at 12:57 am

    I have to admit I never heard of the commodore before but it sure does look fucking tits. Probably has nothing to do with the fact i get absolutely stoned before and during this video. I love it.

  • commodore

    March 30, 2013 at 5:10 am

    James, buy e.g. “Final Cartridge II” for your Commodore 64 – on eBay, or similar place – and there won’t be any problem with typing “LOAD” command, neither with long loading time.
    There are solutions for C-64 even more sophisticated than that – but they are for REAL nerds. ;)

  • April 4, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    I don’t know what your Problem is with the C64. I had no Problems writing, when the Joystick was connected. And not all Games have been bad. There have been much very goof Games for the C64. And there have been Modules like the Action Replay or the Final Cartridge, so you don’t had to type Load”*”,8,1. Then you could hit F1 and Return. And it loaded faster, except for some Games with an own Loader. I loved the C64.

  • tommy mcguinness

    June 24, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    the european tape version of turtles was ok, you only had to push up for Jump, and enter on the keyboard got you into the menu, also spacebar selected the weapons, it wasn’t slow like the usa disk version, they cut some music and the odd enemy to cut down loading times, now you only had to load in the stages and not every screen, which was cool, as you could go make some tea or some shit!

  • Logan Vandiver

    July 9, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    load “*”,8,1 hahaha

  • Sir Meow

    July 25, 2013 at 12:56 am

    James, man, you gotta rewind the tape. When you typed in “LOAD”, the screen blanked out to read the tape at the current position it was at. You pressed play before typing in “LOAD”. Rewind, Stop, then type “LOAD”, then the screen will tell you “PRESS PLAY ON TAPE”, and you do that, and then it’ll find the game and run it from the start of the file, not somewhere in the middle.

    Also, Amiga! Is that a 600?

  • Christoffer Gadd

    July 26, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    I live in Sweden which is in Europe and I never remembered TMNT to be TMHT. Maybe it’s because all the games and toys I got was from America

  • October 28, 2013 at 10:50 am

    Hey James and Mike,I love watching you guys. :) I grew up with this computer at my school. I have one now (that mostly works). Your joystick is probably giving you problems because one of your chips are bad. On mine, the SID (sound) chip is going bad, and it sems to affect the joystick. If I play “LODE RUNNER” from a cart, sometime pushing down on the joystick makes the game freeze (as if it was paused) and pushing down again unpauses it. Also some of the sounds are distorted. Take the chip off the board, and other than no sound,it works fine.

  • skwij

    December 28, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    I can’t imagine anyone knocking down a door to get to a Commodore 64… You may have only gotten one game to work, but it’s cool seeing you two just hang out. Thanks for the video!

  • December 30, 2013 at 3:47 am

    ,8,1 UHH lol

  • January 4, 2014 at 4:58 pm

    Those are quotation marks, not parenthesis.

  • L8erH8er420

    January 5, 2014 at 2:55 am

    You pretty much cannot beat the nes turtle game for the 64, the harders sewer jump from the nintendo game is impossible to get past on the 64. The jump is really to big.

  • January 27, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    There needs to be another video like this. Maybe not Ninja Turtles, but definitely more of the fuckin commodore. It’s a fuckin enigma to those born in the late 80′s to early 90′s and it deserves to be explored a helluva lot more. Mike, James, explore those holes. Those C64 holes that is

  • February 25, 2014 at 6:25 pm

    I used to play C-64 & I noticed the games are better than NES versions if you don’t mind waiting for it to load… TMNT is the 1st one where it looks crappier! Examples of good ones 1st and foremost would be GHOSTBUSTERS!!! it was actually pretty good! Also Defender of the Crown, WInter/Summer Games, California Games! The Super Mario game was pretty cool but I found out it wasn’t officially made by a company (bootleg?)

  • Hunter Collins

    May 30, 2014 at 11:43 pm

    load “*”,8,1 is a T-shirt. I may actually get it, Thanks James!

  • William Levasseur

    June 25, 2014 at 11:04 pm

    I love that both James and Mike broke into singing the intro from the “Super Mario Bros Super Show” XD

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