ohhh, James. The problem with Spidey 3 is NOT anything you mentioned. To quote a review by Roger Ebert: “Kirsten Dunst sings.” Then Mr. Ebert continues on, only to state: “Kirsten Dunst sings.” He continues on again, and then: “Kirsten Dunst sings.”
THIS is the true reason for the universal hatred of it, I”m sure. The problems with the rest of the plot points you cited? Trivial! But there are limits to our abilities to suspend disbelief. Spidey can get possessed by an alien and then get buddy-buddy with the villains, but could he seriously pull off a swinging dance number while listening to that caterwauling? THERE is the problem with Spiderman 3!
another great video james but I think you missed a movie star wars episode 1 the phantom of menace how they can missed this movie. Im not a fanboy of star wars im just a guy love movie like you and thats movie piss me off its good but not how i was imagined. If you do another video like thats I think you can put the star wars episode 1 the phantom of menace If not you dont want to put the star wars I talk well just tell me why
i could not agree more with number 1. i enjoyed it alot when i saw it in the theater.
all my friends were complaining about all the impossible things, the only thing i kept saying was, … how about we RE-WATCH the old indie films, lets see how “realistic” those were, yeah.
I was in complete agreement about Indy. Yeah, the movie was unprecedented in the series, both in presentation and subject matter; but overall it was a good romp into a world that is so separated from our own. People complain over and over again about it and I can see what they dislike and why, but I still enjoy suspending my disbelief for these kinds of things. That’s why I go to the movies.
Actually, there were some real issues with Spider-Man 3.
Sandman had nothing to do with Uncle Ben’s murder, they made that up in order to create conflict. Then when he was confronted, he outright admitted he did it.
Not to mention boring filler scenes, Tobey Maguire’s annoying acting, the Sandman’s origin by stupid scientist, and how they try to make him a tragic figure.
Personally, my gripe with Halloween 3 (since they insisted on calling it that) isn’t so much the absence of the Michael Meyers storyline. That movie suffers from what i like to call the Shocker syndrome. For those who don’t know the film Shocker, it’s a good premise, it has great scary moments in places and starts out strong, but about halfway through it goes for camp value and doesn’t allow for the suspension of disbelief very well. Halloween 3 has the same problem. It’s genuinely creepy in atmosphere and tone, it has an interesting base premise, but when all of the plot elements come together…. it becomes a case of “what the fuck did i just watch?” To be honest, i wish the series had taken the anthology route like it was supposed to. The original film was a masterpiece and though i love Halloween 2, each of the following movies should have been their own stand-alone stories. I feel the same way about Friday the 13th. Each one was supposed to have been, and should have been a different story. The one redeeming quality of H3 is the fact that it doesn’t hold back and has a really powerful ending. But for me, that wasn’t enough to save it. I call do-over.
As for Spiderman 3, they did cram way too much into it. For an action flick that can be a good thing, but when a plot moves too quickly, it can be a very bad thing as well. And when you cram a lot into one movie, that tends to happen more than not. Also, the casting for Eddie Brock just wasn’t right. He’s a muscled jock who isn’t a bad photographer, but can’t get a break because of Peter always getting the best angle on Spiderman (for obvious reasons) and resorts to fraud in order to beat him out. He’s jealous of peter in almost every way and when the symbiote is cast off, it feeds on that hatred to become a fearsome tower of rage and avarice. Venom was just rushed and didn’t match up to the brutal scope of the character. And yes, the dancing…oh, god, what dancing. The sandman plot was enough for the movie, and the subplot of two enemies putting aside their differences was fine, but it seemed to come out of thin air. Not a horrible movie, but not worthy of the comic’s epic name.
As for T3, i agree with you that it’s a good action movie, but it ultimately comes down to the fact that the other movies had a genuine message to convey with an action sci-fi story as the vehicle. T3 is simply an action sci-fi movie made to make more money and it shows. Not horrible, but pointless in the end. It doesn’t even really set up the next movie that much. Just skip to Salvation.
And Indiana jones…well, why not? We all love Indy don’t we? True, the other movies were supernatural in tone, rather than extraterrestrial, but who cares? We’re here to see amazing locations (cgi or not) intense action scenes, death-defying stunts and Harrison Ford kick some ass. ‘Nough said.
As for the rest of the top ten… they’re worth watching and don’t deserve the harsh reactions they got. Halloween 3 and Spiderman 3 and Terminator 3 (i’m noticing a pattern here, aren’t you?) either aren’t necessary to the series they’re a part of or fall short of that which came before… or both.
Wow pooh.. you managed to post a first comment. This is a story you can tell your grandchildren about as they beam with pride that their grandfather once managed to be the first commenter on a video thread. You are part of a rare breed man..
Alright James, i don’t know if you read these comments, but i wasn’t satisfied with your argumentation in the end at all.
You pointed out that people seem to go with the opinion which is most popular, not thinking for themself and are nitpicking on the wrong stuff.
Well, i get more and more the impression that you are one of those guys who always want to stand out from the pack and take the anti-popular position no matter what, just to make clear how independent your are from hype and popular oppinions about movies.
Your judgement on movies often follows a certain pattern and this is reflected in your thoughts about the recent batman-movies, especially Batman Begins.
You were nitpicking the shit out of that movie and now your preaching how wrong it is to reflect a movie in such a manner.
This is sort of paradox, isn’t it?
Therefore i don’t really believe that you think for yourself.
The most popular oppinions (positive or negative) dictate your view on a movie, especially those which are debatable and recent.
If the majorty of people would have loved the aliens and atomic bomb-stuff in Indiana Jones IV, well….i’m pretty sure that you would have ripped this movie apart, just to be different.
You would have pointed out so many elements that are wrong in this movie, but now you have no choice but to take the opposite side.
So my message to you is:
Think for yourself and don’t dismiss public oppinions or “nitpickings” about movies just to point out how much of a move-expert you are, we get it James.
Everyone has the right nitpick on whatever they like and if certain people want to follow a trend (which is certainly true a lot of the time), so be it, doesn’t make such a oppinion necessarily wrong and less worthy.
Don’t be too quick to judge. You could say that any argument is nitpicking, even your own argument as to whether James is. When it comes to opinions, there is no right or wrong. He states his opinions and we as commentators state our own. He is provoking a discussion, not proclaiming his word is gospel or anti-gospel for that matter. I often disagree with things he says, but i often agree with his opinions as well. Just because someone disagrees with popular opinion doesn’t mean they’re vying for status.
I could very well say that because James is a popular internet persona that your statement above is rebelling against pop culture and that you are guilty of the same thing.
This is why I watch you. Because you actually can sit down and enjoy a movie even if it’s considered bad.
One can enjoy a movie even if it’s bad… this is taken to the extream if you have ever seen the 80′s “Flash Gordon”. Honestly, I’m not sure if they made it so blend by design. At least it gave me a lot of good laughs.
Ok I’ve gone off the deep end with my response. If you don’t want to see my comments on allot of the comments in this video skip ahead.
The Lost World stuck in my craw because from the Novels all it kept were the Raptors Ian and that special 2 cabin vehicle. Everything else ignores the source material and follows the old Lost World movie. Sarah’s character was a Man. Allot of survival elements and great dinosaur encounters were not even attempted until III which I wish was never made because it was an abortion just trying to make something of the rest of what was ignored in the books.
I didn’t know Ghostbusters II was criticized. I love that movie I just wish they would have used the proton packs more! In the first movie I believed that the business existed. But this sequel almost everything is going to dealing with the Slime. Nothing even being attempted to have the Ghostbusters really be back and dealing with ghosts as a business or advertising. Closest is the jogger which wasn’t haunting anyone.
I can’t stand Terminator 3, I admit I never saw it in theaters but I never liked action movies that lacked plot or more depth in other nuances.
Gremlins II is one of my All Time Favorite movies and like Ghostbusters II I didn’t know it was criticized.
The only things I don’t like about Back to the Future III is that it reuses too many things from the earlier movies. Like having a broken or unusable part of the time machine or the Manure gag. They went back in time and somehow instead of being fresh because chronologically it would be the first time it was just old hat.
Rocky V Is my third favorite. I still haven’t watched VI yet. Thank you for showing my favorite movie moment in all of the Rocky series. “Sue me for what?”-Rocky
I have not watched SpiderMan 3 because I have ALWAYS HATED SANDMAN the actor they chose IS SOMEONE I WISH WAS NEVER BORN So I have no direct criticism of the movie I just hate its ingredients enough to never give it a chance.
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
I admit I complained about the Monkeys but my mom and I were so entranced by how kick ass Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is (And I almost never use that term for anything) we didn’t even take much time to breathe until after they were dropping down the waterfalls. My only other problem was the music choice opening it. All the Earlier Indiana Jones movies were taking music to fit the B serials feel but now the music fits the era the movie is being set in.
I didn’t think about it before but I would love to see them get in touch with the Henson creature shop and remake the Alien sequences of this movie. Look at The Dark Crystal. Those were physically made. Just de-focusing and overlaying the film to put the Uruskeks into the final sequence. It would have been perfect for the feel! They had a physical crystal skull. The Henson Creature shop would have had more than enough to work with off of that to make it a Hell of allot more real!
I wonder how many other people watching KotCS noticed how many background elements were the same style as they encountered when in that first temple back in Raiders of the Lost Ark. They return to Central America and that style just felt so right in the final temple to knowledge the aliens had assembled.
I’m not watching this review ever sorry james it looks cool but every 5 seconds that avatar add keeps expanding for no reason when i first saw it i clicked x okay fine but now it keeps on opening and im missing more of this because of it and i just cant watch it sorry man
Sure, everyone has his own oppinion and that’s pretty much the essence of my message to James, because he dismisses other opinions (especially popular ones).
Look, i love to watch videos by James and also agree a lot of the time, but when i comes to such a preachy tone and contradictory/dismissive agrumentation, i feel the deep need to type something.
Look Cerberus, watch the Bat-A-Thon Part 3 video and take a look on James’ thoughts about Batman Begins.
His first words are “Sorry, but Batman Begins is overrated. Should i just pretend to like and GO ALONG WITH THE CROWD?”
Well, this quote alone makes my point pretty clear.
He seems to have a very deep need to deviate from this so called “crowd” and the public oppinion often determines how he feels about a movie.
- If they are nitpicking – He wants to like itand looks for the good parts in it, just to be a contrast to all these complainers
- If they like and and even praise it – He looks for stuff to nitpick and stands against all these mindless fanboys who got blinded by all the hype
This is of course a strong simplification, but i guess you get the idea.
First comment and its super ass funny! ( to be first )
tip 1 in commenting
Dont comment before watch what youre commenting!
Video dont work! help me james!
Heh, nice one Pooh
Here’s a working link
http://www.spike.com/video/cinemassacre-top-10/3423944
Enjoy !
awesome, nothing more true at the ending, nice job James
I liked Spider-man 3 … maybe even more than the first or the second…
i toataly agree with you james we should think on our own about movies and how great or bad they were
ohhh, James. The problem with Spidey 3 is NOT anything you mentioned. To quote a review by Roger Ebert: “Kirsten Dunst sings.” Then Mr. Ebert continues on, only to state: “Kirsten Dunst sings.” He continues on again, and then: “Kirsten Dunst sings.”
THIS is the true reason for the universal hatred of it, I”m sure. The problems with the rest of the plot points you cited? Trivial! But there are limits to our abilities to suspend disbelief. Spidey can get possessed by an alien and then get buddy-buddy with the villains, but could he seriously pull off a swinging dance number while listening to that caterwauling? THERE is the problem with Spiderman 3!
another great video james but I think you missed a movie star wars episode 1 the phantom of menace how they can missed this movie. Im not a fanboy of star wars im just a guy love movie like you and thats movie piss me off its good but not how i was imagined. If you do another video like thats I think you can put the star wars episode 1 the phantom of menace If not you dont want to put the star wars I talk well just tell me why
i could not agree more with number 1. i enjoyed it alot when i saw it in the theater.
all my friends were complaining about all the impossible things, the only thing i kept saying was, … how about we RE-WATCH the old indie films, lets see how “realistic” those were, yeah.
awesome video again james
I was in complete agreement about Indy. Yeah, the movie was unprecedented in the series, both in presentation and subject matter; but overall it was a good romp into a world that is so separated from our own. People complain over and over again about it and I can see what they dislike and why, but I still enjoy suspending my disbelief for these kinds of things. That’s why I go to the movies.
Actually, there were some real issues with Spider-Man 3.
Sandman had nothing to do with Uncle Ben’s murder, they made that up in order to create conflict. Then when he was confronted, he outright admitted he did it.
Not to mention boring filler scenes, Tobey Maguire’s annoying acting, the Sandman’s origin by stupid scientist, and how they try to make him a tragic figure.
Other than that, great video James.
I TOTALLY AGREE JAMES !!
One more thing, I really like Rocky 5. I think its a great movie.
I would rank them like this.
1. ROCKY (The first one i fantastic)
2. ROCKY 2
3. ROCKY 5
4. ROCKY 3
5. ROCKY 6
6. ROCKY 4
Great video
Personally, my gripe with Halloween 3 (since they insisted on calling it that) isn’t so much the absence of the Michael Meyers storyline. That movie suffers from what i like to call the Shocker syndrome. For those who don’t know the film Shocker, it’s a good premise, it has great scary moments in places and starts out strong, but about halfway through it goes for camp value and doesn’t allow for the suspension of disbelief very well. Halloween 3 has the same problem. It’s genuinely creepy in atmosphere and tone, it has an interesting base premise, but when all of the plot elements come together…. it becomes a case of “what the fuck did i just watch?” To be honest, i wish the series had taken the anthology route like it was supposed to. The original film was a masterpiece and though i love Halloween 2, each of the following movies should have been their own stand-alone stories. I feel the same way about Friday the 13th. Each one was supposed to have been, and should have been a different story. The one redeeming quality of H3 is the fact that it doesn’t hold back and has a really powerful ending. But for me, that wasn’t enough to save it. I call do-over.
As for Spiderman 3, they did cram way too much into it. For an action flick that can be a good thing, but when a plot moves too quickly, it can be a very bad thing as well. And when you cram a lot into one movie, that tends to happen more than not. Also, the casting for Eddie Brock just wasn’t right. He’s a muscled jock who isn’t a bad photographer, but can’t get a break because of Peter always getting the best angle on Spiderman (for obvious reasons) and resorts to fraud in order to beat him out. He’s jealous of peter in almost every way and when the symbiote is cast off, it feeds on that hatred to become a fearsome tower of rage and avarice. Venom was just rushed and didn’t match up to the brutal scope of the character. And yes, the dancing…oh, god, what dancing. The sandman plot was enough for the movie, and the subplot of two enemies putting aside their differences was fine, but it seemed to come out of thin air. Not a horrible movie, but not worthy of the comic’s epic name.
As for T3, i agree with you that it’s a good action movie, but it ultimately comes down to the fact that the other movies had a genuine message to convey with an action sci-fi story as the vehicle. T3 is simply an action sci-fi movie made to make more money and it shows. Not horrible, but pointless in the end. It doesn’t even really set up the next movie that much. Just skip to Salvation.
And Indiana jones…well, why not? We all love Indy don’t we? True, the other movies were supernatural in tone, rather than extraterrestrial, but who cares? We’re here to see amazing locations (cgi or not) intense action scenes, death-defying stunts and Harrison Ford kick some ass. ‘Nough said.
As for the rest of the top ten… they’re worth watching and don’t deserve the harsh reactions they got. Halloween 3 and Spiderman 3 and Terminator 3 (i’m noticing a pattern here, aren’t you?) either aren’t necessary to the series they’re a part of or fall short of that which came before… or both.
Wow pooh.. you managed to post a first comment. This is a story you can tell your grandchildren about as they beam with pride that their grandfather once managed to be the first commenter on a video thread. You are part of a rare breed man..
Alright James, i don’t know if you read these comments, but i wasn’t satisfied with your argumentation in the end at all.
You pointed out that people seem to go with the opinion which is most popular, not thinking for themself and are nitpicking on the wrong stuff.
Well, i get more and more the impression that you are one of those guys who always want to stand out from the pack and take the anti-popular position no matter what, just to make clear how independent your are from hype and popular oppinions about movies.
Your judgement on movies often follows a certain pattern and this is reflected in your thoughts about the recent batman-movies, especially Batman Begins.
You were nitpicking the shit out of that movie and now your preaching how wrong it is to reflect a movie in such a manner.
This is sort of paradox, isn’t it?
Therefore i don’t really believe that you think for yourself.
The most popular oppinions (positive or negative) dictate your view on a movie, especially those which are debatable and recent.
If the majorty of people would have loved the aliens and atomic bomb-stuff in Indiana Jones IV, well….i’m pretty sure that you would have ripped this movie apart, just to be different.
You would have pointed out so many elements that are wrong in this movie, but now you have no choice but to take the opposite side.
So my message to you is:
Think for yourself and don’t dismiss public oppinions or “nitpickings” about movies just to point out how much of a move-expert you are, we get it James.
Everyone has the right nitpick on whatever they like and if certain people want to follow a trend (which is certainly true a lot of the time), so be it, doesn’t make such a oppinion necessarily wrong and less worthy.
Greetings from Germany
Gorgeous
@ Camillo
Don’t be too quick to judge. You could say that any argument is nitpicking, even your own argument as to whether James is. When it comes to opinions, there is no right or wrong. He states his opinions and we as commentators state our own. He is provoking a discussion, not proclaiming his word is gospel or anti-gospel for that matter. I often disagree with things he says, but i often agree with his opinions as well. Just because someone disagrees with popular opinion doesn’t mean they’re vying for status.
I could very well say that because James is a popular internet persona that your statement above is rebelling against pop culture and that you are guilty of the same thing.
This is why I watch you. Because you actually can sit down and enjoy a movie even if it’s considered bad.
One can enjoy a movie even if it’s bad… this is taken to the extream if you have ever seen the 80′s “Flash Gordon”. Honestly, I’m not sure if they made it so blend by design. At least it gave me a lot of good laughs.
Also, Happy Canada Day.
Hey james, did you know theres going to be one more indiana jones movie?? And yes, Harrison Ford is on board!
Ok I’ve gone off the deep end with my response. If you don’t want to see my comments on allot of the comments in this video skip ahead.
The Lost World stuck in my craw because from the Novels all it kept were the Raptors Ian and that special 2 cabin vehicle. Everything else ignores the source material and follows the old Lost World movie. Sarah’s character was a Man. Allot of survival elements and great dinosaur encounters were not even attempted until III which I wish was never made because it was an abortion just trying to make something of the rest of what was ignored in the books.
I didn’t know Ghostbusters II was criticized. I love that movie I just wish they would have used the proton packs more! In the first movie I believed that the business existed. But this sequel almost everything is going to dealing with the Slime. Nothing even being attempted to have the Ghostbusters really be back and dealing with ghosts as a business or advertising. Closest is the jogger which wasn’t haunting anyone.
I can’t stand Terminator 3, I admit I never saw it in theaters but I never liked action movies that lacked plot or more depth in other nuances.
Gremlins II is one of my All Time Favorite movies and like Ghostbusters II I didn’t know it was criticized.
The only things I don’t like about Back to the Future III is that it reuses too many things from the earlier movies. Like having a broken or unusable part of the time machine or the Manure gag. They went back in time and somehow instead of being fresh because chronologically it would be the first time it was just old hat.
Rocky V Is my third favorite. I still haven’t watched VI yet. Thank you for showing my favorite movie moment in all of the Rocky series. “Sue me for what?”-Rocky
I have not watched SpiderMan 3 because I have ALWAYS HATED SANDMAN the actor they chose IS SOMEONE I WISH WAS NEVER BORN So I have no direct criticism of the movie I just hate its ingredients enough to never give it a chance.
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
I admit I complained about the Monkeys but my mom and I were so entranced by how kick ass Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is (And I almost never use that term for anything) we didn’t even take much time to breathe until after they were dropping down the waterfalls. My only other problem was the music choice opening it. All the Earlier Indiana Jones movies were taking music to fit the B serials feel but now the music fits the era the movie is being set in.
I didn’t think about it before but I would love to see them get in touch with the Henson creature shop and remake the Alien sequences of this movie. Look at The Dark Crystal. Those were physically made. Just de-focusing and overlaying the film to put the Uruskeks into the final sequence. It would have been perfect for the feel! They had a physical crystal skull. The Henson Creature shop would have had more than enough to work with off of that to make it a Hell of allot more real!
I wonder how many other people watching KotCS noticed how many background elements were the same style as they encountered when in that first temple back in Raiders of the Lost Ark. They return to Central America and that style just felt so right in the final temple to knowledge the aliens had assembled.
I’m not watching this review ever sorry james it looks cool but every 5 seconds that avatar add keeps expanding for no reason when i first saw it i clicked x okay fine but now it keeps on opening and im missing more of this because of it and i just cant watch it sorry man
@ St_Cerberus_Engel
Sure, everyone has his own oppinion and that’s pretty much the essence of my message to James, because he dismisses other opinions (especially popular ones).
Look, i love to watch videos by James and also agree a lot of the time, but when i comes to such a preachy tone and contradictory/dismissive agrumentation, i feel the deep need to type something.
Look Cerberus, watch the Bat-A-Thon Part 3 video and take a look on James’ thoughts about Batman Begins.
His first words are “Sorry, but Batman Begins is overrated. Should i just pretend to like and GO ALONG WITH THE CROWD?”
Well, this quote alone makes my point pretty clear.
He seems to have a very deep need to deviate from this so called “crowd” and the public oppinion often determines how he feels about a movie.
- If they are nitpicking – He wants to like itand looks for the good parts in it, just to be a contrast to all these complainers
- If they like and and even praise it – He looks for stuff to nitpick and stands against all these mindless fanboys who got blinded by all the hype
This is of course a strong simplification, but i guess you get the idea.