Alice in Wonderland (1951) & Alice in Wonderland (TV 1985)

Mike Matei / February 18th, 2010

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  • MarkShark

    April 8, 2010 at 1:31 am

    Ever seen WARBUS?

  • April 8, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    I always remember the 1985 version for the amazing scenery, the costumes, and most especially the special effects including the scene where Alice shedded gallons of tears from her eyes!

    I actually do enjoy the new Alice in Wonderland for being a fun entertaining ride. I can’t believe how many people are taking it way too seriously. I think it’s meant to be fun without being too stupid. It does get into Lord of the Rings territory in the third act, but overall it is a great experience.

    As for Christopher Lee’s cameo, even though we mostly see the Jabberwocky in the third act, his two lines does make it an effective cameo which goes by the old saying ‘less is more!’ Even the tiniest of growls coming from Lee’s legendary voice can be still be as effective as his entire filmography.

    Plus, I always love watching the Burton/Depp films including one of your faves Ed Wood. But my favorite is Charlie and the Chocolate Factory because it’s a visual feast with great music, great acting, and it follows the book much closer than the 1971 film version.

  • April 9, 2010 at 3:26 am

    I LOVE THIS MOVIE REVIEW 8D!!! OMG!!!!”
    And specially i agree with James Rolfe, the Carol Channing scene is my favorite… i dont like her singing, but SHE`S going nuts..thats the funniest part.
    I cant even believe she is alive, she talks like she has been smoking a lot of sigaretes since she was born O.O…She is soon 90…unbelieveble…
    And when i first watched the dragon (sorry, cant remember the name of that creacture)… i was like…OH SHIT!!” Has that ever happen in the disney version, of COURSE NOT!! XD
    Good jobb with the movie review James Rolfe xD

  • cpfan2000

    April 9, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    Oh there is no doubt theyre making another wizard of oz. but they better not do something stupid and make all the characters (such as scarecrow, tinman, and the cowardly lion) computer generated. i will be pissed

  • A.Regular-Person

    April 12, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    The disney version is what i remember. The animation is interesting to watch, espescially from that time. My favorite character was probaby the Creshire Cat too, and my opinion is that disney shouldn’t make sequel, because they destroy classics. Thank goodness many of them still are.

    And…Holy Crap, i didn’t even know they made a reality version of Alice in Wonderland, and i’m surpised they showed that scene with the Jabberwockey in the first movie to little kids, what the hell were they thinking.

    James, it looks creepy, but not scary enough for me, but that’s coming from someone who’s older. I probably would’ve done the same thing if i saw that at a young age.

  • rochapt

    April 16, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    poor pig…

  • amberdarko86

    April 19, 2010 at 1:02 am

    You couldn’t have reviewed the live action Alice in Wonderland any better. I feel the exact same way you do about it. And I can’t believe you remember Zoobalee Zoo. Great Review!

  • wingzero

    April 25, 2010 at 2:05 am

    the reason that jonny depp is in all his movies is because jonny is owes him something just like how ben affleck is in all of kevin smith’s movies thats just want i think and if anyone can come up with something better please tell me

  • April 28, 2010 at 8:36 am

    can you stand on your head?

    my favorite part

  • Edward

    May 23, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    Yeah, makes you wonder why Jonny Depp and Tim Burton are now a team. Could it be because of Jonny’s remarkable tallent to become a totally different and possibly surreal character on demand? :p

  • marmaru

    June 7, 2010 at 4:29 am

    I remember watching this and thinking Carol Channing was my grandmother. Both my grandmas had that old lady smoker rasp, and they were the only people I knew of at the time who did.

  • CharlieBrownGhostAss

    June 15, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    “Evil Dead” & “Spiderman” director Sam Raimi has just been signed to direct a 3D prequel to “The Wizard of Oz” called “Oz: The Great and Powerful”.

  • venom 51007

    August 15, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    i think the actors with there head sticking out of the costumes look terrible i mean come on that looks ridiculous its like an ed wood movie but for some reason its funny at the same time. and the mad hatter well he is really a mad hatter hes turned into a villain in batman and why is johnny depp in everyfilm now i liked him as willy wonka,jack sparrow,the husband in corpse bride,ed wood but why is he a mad hatter now i like him mostly as jack sparrow not to be rude but i’d rather see jim carrey cause jim carrey is awesome like in the grinch stole christmas 2001 the step father in a series of unfortanute events the riddler in batman forever i think johnny depp should lay low because he is in and not to be rude again but i dont think he should’ve been casted as the mad hatter i’d rather preffer jim carrey cause he really is mad in some films oh yeah i forgot to mention he stars in the spongebob special spongebob the big one which he made it work but i think we need a break from johnny depp.

  • August 17, 2010 at 1:48 am

    The animated feature was my first exposure to Alice in Wonderland, and it lead to me later in life reading the associated books untouched by Disney. Normally I have nothing good to say about movies, ESPECIALLY things made by Disney, but I honestly liked this movie. I didn’t have the opportunity to ever see that TV feature, but it looks positively mind blowing.

    There was also a SCI-FI channel installment of the movie which gave me a migraine to watch. However, to give people an idea about it. It’s about Alice, going to wonderland (Yes this happened before the new CG movie). The scenery is pretty radical, and imaginative. Humans from the real world get kidnapped by squad of minions and they’re then refer to as Oysters. They’re drained of emotion in a giant casino where they exposed to all kinds of stimuli to cause said emotions. It’s got a pretty big Sci-Fi theme going, considering it was on the Sci-Fi channel. I can’t say it was terrible. It’s highly original, and at least they weren’t trying to do what every one else has done. I recommend it if only to see the spectacle.

    As for the new one… It’s not gonna announce the coming of Rapture, but it is adequate. I usually spill nothing but Bile and Liquid Malevolence in responses to unneeded sequels, series reboots, and remakes. But this was decent. It’s not perfect, but it isn’t bad. Now what I’m really waiting to see is the Freddy movie. I can’t decide if I wanna scream encore or foul from the stuff I’ve seen so far. :D

  • August 17, 2010 at 1:50 am

    Second comment: What is the deal with every one trying to invent a relationship between the Hatter and Alice? He’s a creepy dude, she’s a girl trying to get back to the real world. Where is there material for romance, or even a slight fondness?

  • LigeiaMaloy

    September 4, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    Back then, the Disney-version almost made me hate Alice.

    I started watching horror films rather young (for that time), but the only movie I’ve ever got nightmares so far, in my whole life, up until now, is the animated Alice movie.

    I forced myself to watch it again and again several times, to make the nightmares stop, but it didn’t work. Haven’t seen the movie for more than 20 years now and still don’t feel like it.

    Minds are strange, especially as I was older the first time watching Alice than the first time watching the first Poltergeist movie (it was scary for my about 7 or 8 years old self, but nope, no nightmares).

    Anyway, I like this review. Choice of words, intonation and the movies just work great together.

  • Theawesomeness

    September 6, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    wasn’t jabberwocky writen by the same guy? that would be like t\if the jabberwock went to his local library and picked up a copy of alice in wonderland

  • Paulscott1126

    September 19, 2010 at 8:06 am

    Animation version was the best…

  • Ryujin

    October 1, 2010 at 12:25 am

    Thank you James, I too have been scared by that Jabberwocky scene though the thing was I only had fragmented memories of it so I could never remember when I saw it and what it was from so for years it was bugging the hell out of me where my memory of it came form so thanks for finally putting that to rest though for some reason I’ve always remember the scene a little different in that I remember Alice seeing Jabberwocky behind the mirror not in the frontroom but I guess that I was just contracting her seeing her parents in the mirror with the dragon. Well either that or my mind was just protecting it’s self form pure nightmare fuel because I do agree, it’s even more fucked up that it was in the room with her.

  • Twoface97

    November 6, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    Ringo Starr was in that movie?! HOLY SHIT now i have to watch it!!!!!!!

  • November 30, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    I always found somehow disappointing that the Queen of Hearts is always portrayed as a human. I know she’s like this also in the original illustration to the book, but actually in the text there’s no reference to the fact that she’s not a card!
    It basically says: “Alice then meets a card deck; there are all cards and there’s the Queen of Hearts.” That’s it. She’s a card! It makes no sense for her to be human!
    Also, if you carefully check everytime Alice shrinks and gets bigger, at the time she meets the deck she’s the size of a card! (but the whole misures thing is very poorly considered in films)

  • December 2, 2010 at 3:08 am

    The new Alice and Wonderland was crap. Tim Burton basically made it to make Alice in Wonderland dark and edgy and to parade around his little acting troupe (Johnny Depp, Helena Bonham Carter, Alan Rickman, and Timothy Spall). I went to see it in 3D. The best part was the cat food commercial they played before the movie to test out the 3D effects.

  • zhezhire_kat

    January 5, 2011 at 7:44 am

    hey!!! who you call hardcore fans?

    ;P

    By the way i love tim burton but i really dont get his version (only nice visual?)

  • Pestan

    January 30, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    I also saw the two old ones as a kid. And I loved the new one.

  • Mad Hatter

    February 20, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    My favorite Disney ;)

    Nice review

  • tarantula713

    February 21, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    in wonderland the only thing that makes sence is nothing makes sence

  • Varda

    March 14, 2011 at 3:01 am

    Wow, James… I’m glad someone else saw the Jabberwocky at a young age and found it truly frightening. Essentially the exact same thing happened to me. Looking back on it now (and I haven’t seen it for probably about 2 decades) I can see why the damn thing scared me. Anyway, just wanted to let you know that you are not alone.

  • chrisRAWRZ

    March 24, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    love the review.

  • May 31, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    The animated film of Alice in Wonderland, is my childhood film. I’ve never seen the real life movie until I watched this video. IT looks pretty weird with the actors dressed as animals and objects. And I was pretty surpirsed that you mentioned Ringo being in this thing, “I’m on Acid!” lol But yeah the new movie was alright, but yeah, Tim Burton could’ve done better. He basically took some of techniques from his other films. For example, the blue butterfly flying in the sky at the end, hmmmm…doesn’t that look familiar? Kind of like the blue butterfly flying in the sky in Corpse Bride. Oh well, but yeah Alice In Wonderland will always be cooky and insane, but in reality, that’s how life is! :D

  • TetrisNinja

    June 16, 2011 at 9:36 am

    Great review but she turned into a sheep not a goat

  • abunti

    June 26, 2011 at 7:04 am

    i vagually remember seeing an old version of alice in the wonderland. the movie was Black-and-white, and the only “living” actor was a child portraying alice. also, the film was narreted by alice, with a shord break showing her mouth while she was saying every spoken thing in the film, “would you like some tea? said the mad hatter”, for instance.

    i searched for that movie all over, and haven’t found it yet. does anyone know any details about the movie?

  • MikeyNewJin

    July 13, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    Whoa.

  • July 14, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    I’m not really into disney stuff but i loved alice in wonderland funny enough. I also love the newer (“sequel”) movie from i think 2009.

  • July 14, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    Also, the pig makes sense.. its from the book ;)

  • September 2, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    I’m so glad I’m not the only person who remembers Zoobilee Zoo.

  • SirWibin

    September 11, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Uhm, that’s a sheep not a goat.

  • SirWibin

    September 11, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Though I’m sure everyone got the point. I had not ever seen that version. Kinda creepy if you ask me just from the clips you showed.

  • Chinito398

    October 10, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    i dont know why but this movie always scared me

  • CaryCornelius

    December 2, 2011 at 11:00 am

    I never knew what version of wonderland that was, but that jabberwocky gave me nightmares all threw my childhood, spot on.

  • Booster Dragon

    January 11, 2012 at 11:55 am

    Carol Channings special power is to change into a goat after saying “Bieeeatch!”

  • JohnPrice

    February 2, 2012 at 8:58 am

    anyone notice that uncle jessy is in this movie xD John Stamos FTW

  • JohnPrice

    February 2, 2012 at 8:59 am

    anyone notice Uncle Jessie is in this movie?! XD John Stamos FTW

  • Fluteloop

    March 3, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    I saw the same two movies growing up they were both very good and watchable. The memories :)

  • DraculaAlucard1

    March 12, 2012 at 12:10 am

    I don’t know why, but I dont like Alice in wonderland. All my friends thing it deserves to be one of the greatest disney movies ever. Me? I dont find it memerable. I’ve seen it atleast 7 times, thelast time being only bout 2-3 weeks ago, & I never remember anything about the movie exept the cheshire Cat (My fave character, also known as Winne the Pooh, & Cobb the snake from “The Jungle Book”)

  • HorazStCruz

    March 21, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    Probably Wonderland may also be a metaphor of the Matrix…

  • Chris

    April 11, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    In my opinion with much respect, both clips of other Disney films you showed (The Little Mermaid and Aladdin) are both superior to Alice In Wonderland. However, neither of those films are certainly dumbed down. The Little Mermaid is a tale of bravery, adventure, well-told and daring romance, and excellent music. Aladdin is a story of two people who would each prefer each-other’s lives to their own., friendship, selfishness, and has good music also, but is lesser than The Little Mermaid. The romance is a little worse in the latter. But by no means do I think Alice In Wonderland is a bad movie. It’s great! I merely enjoy both of those films more than Wonderland. Thanks for reading.

  • damon

    May 19, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    @tarantula713 that makes sense.

  • Senna4ever

    May 21, 2012 at 6:59 am

    The reason Johnny Depp is in so many Burton movies is cos they have a great working relationship. It’s a partnership that works well.
    So why would they not work together so much?

    It’s like complaining that Mike works on so many of James videos.

    I’d like to see Burton have a go at The Wizard Of Oz, cos the original was crap.
    I like Burton when he does not have his hands tied. His take on Alice was pretty dull to be honest…cos Dinsey held him back too much.
    Disney always ruin great stories. Alice is not the only one. I mean go read the proper endings of Hunchback Of Notradame, the Little Mermaid, etc…pretty dark and disturbing stuff. Not happy endings at all.

    I also find it somewhat ironic Burton is working so much with Disney now…seeing as he used to work for them when he first started but was “let go” due to his dark ideas.
    Even more so is it not Disney that are backing his “remake” of Frankenwinie? A short he made years ago for Disney that got him “fired” in the first place?

  • Bionikler

    May 23, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    The reason Johnny Depp is in all of Tim Burtons movies now is because they are more or less best friends

  • japansgreatest

    July 16, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    I saw the TV Alice in Wonderland before I saw the disney film. That was my FIRST experience of Alice In Wonderland. I remember that Jabawocky(?) scene was horrible. I was also weirded out by the scene in Through the Looking Glass when the White Knight fights the Jabawocky(?) and it just chomps down on the White Knights head!!! I thought it just ate him, until you see everyone alive and well at the end. For the longest time that was one of my favorite movies. We didnt have a lot of money when I was growing up, so we would order cable tv, record EVERYTHING on VHS, then cancel the cable and re watch the tapes for a while, until we could afford cable for another month! I had the Alice in WOnderland tv movie on vhs taped off tv, and the G.I. Joe cartoon movie. I have since lost those tapes, and it kills me cause one of my favorite things about those tapes was all the commercials from the 80′s!! I still have yet to watch every video on cinemassacre, but when i do, if you havn’t reviewed the G.I.Joe cartoon movie, you definitely should!

  • Oswards306

    July 29, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    The Disney version of Alice in Wonderland was the first version of Alice in Wonderland that I saw durring my childhood

  • ninjadude3510

    September 14, 2012 at 3:26 am

    hey james i hope you review the tim burton alice in wonderland, personally i thought it was good, a much more darker version of the one i saw as a kid

  • MonkeeJuice

    September 15, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    There exist an adult version of Alice In Wonderland that’s a musical too! Hopefully I’ll never see it!

  • Labyrinth9000

    October 20, 2012 at 2:00 am

    Hey James, ever thought of reviewing American MgGees Alice???

  • January 8, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    You should see the Jim Henson version of Alice in Wonderland. It has Gene Wilder as the Mock Turtle, Whoopi Goldberg as the Cat, a hilarios Queen, good special effects, no Jabberwooki, is close to the book and best of all isn’t cheesy as hell.

  • crazygamer4life

    January 28, 2013 at 5:53 am

    Hey James, you should check out the English dub of the 1988 Chekoslovakian film “Alice”. It’s bizarre..and kind of creepy at times. The white rabbit is a taxidermy rabbit that pulls the nails out of it’s feet and it stuffs a hole in his stomach with saw dust that keeps falling out. It’s one of the freakiest versions of Alice in Wonderland I’ve ever seen..

  • Dylan Corriveau

    April 25, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    I don’t know if anyone has mentioned yet, but did you know there was Another made for TV version in 1999? It sounds to be very close to the 1985 TV version, but with a different, equally interesting cast (Whoppi Goldberg as cheshire cat, Christopher Lloyd as the white knight, and Gene Wilder as the Mock Turtle to name a few). Maybe you should review that one as well, James!

  • Blatt

    May 17, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    I remember after seeing this movie for the first time my mother telling me that it was a parody of parliament at the time. The characters were all crazy because that’s the way the writer viewed the upper class and politicians.

  • August 29, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    Hehe, great video. Not a disney fan but that disney movie indeed is pretty cool. I’d really like to know your opinion on the very old “anime series” adaptation of Alice in Wonderland. It’s an anime series from 1983 and very close to the novel, too. But it’s not very ‘well’ drawn. Not bad either but, eh.. you should see it for yourself.

  • Erick Lopez

    September 29, 2013 at 11:41 am

    I always loved this movie :)

  • nammm3

    March 21, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    Great video man! I’m sure i’ve already commented on this video.

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