Watching 16mm cartoons (part 3 of 3)

Mike Matei / September 20th, 2009

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  • Andy Navarro

    April 10, 2010 at 11:20 pm

    I notice you say the cartoons are timeless and don’t get me wrong i love them and i’m fourteen, but when you look at it the cartoon “Spongebob Squarepants” that show is pretty timeless also

    • Carson Shover

      August 14, 2013 at 6:15 pm

      Timeless sure. But in some ways, that show was one of the biggest tragedies of the early 2000’s. It had the potential to be a very creative, funny, and entertaining cartoon. And it was, until about 2005 when new writers took over and fucked it all up. I cloud go on, but it would take too much space.

      • BladeRunner

        September 23, 2013 at 9:36 pm

        I loved early SpongeBob Squarepants & I’m 22 and grew up with all the earlier classic nicktoons. And in my opinion SpongeBob was one of the best, great animation & jokes that actually made me laugh. But as you said when the show changed writers it got bad, and now it’s real bad.

      • April 23, 2014 at 12:20 am

        I really agree with you Garson, it just went down hill after the movie.

      • Weldin Dunn

        August 25, 2014 at 4:36 pm

        Yeah, omce the whole “save jellyfish fields” thing came on it turned into shit.

  • BigSab

    April 14, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    Remember in the early 90’s when those politcally correct morons decided to set their sights on old cartoons? Bugs Bunny was accused of being gay, Mighty Mouse was on coke and Yosmite Sam was a racist. They then had to edit all the cartoons to be PC or they weren’t allowed on tv. They were on edited for a short time then they vanished. They have some of the Fred Quimby Tom and Jerry episodes on cartoon network in the morning but they too have been edited. I think that the Looney Tunes as they were back in the day are long gone. Now they will ne stuck playing basketball with Michael Jordan.

  • darth moo 93

    April 15, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    “right in the fucking dick”

  • Lorelai

    April 21, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    I wish I had something like that at home 😮 It’s odd to hear ‘motherfucker Mike’ talk so passionately about something. Anyway, very interessting stuff guys 😉 And I got to say, I’m 19 years old, but on the side of my wardrobe, all Looney Tunes 🙂

  • Krishnamurti

    April 28, 2010 at 11:43 pm

    I remember watching these cartoons everyday when i was little… And I think MIke is absolutely right about more money to be had by way of new cartoons… But what bothers me about that is the actual content of these new cartoons… Its all crap. Have you guys actually watched the new TMNT cartoon??? Whoa, I was shocked when I actually sat through an episode. Check out a few episodes one day, and you guys are in for a surprise as to how epic a contrast can be. To me its obvious what motivations are the root of a finished product…. What’s unfortunate is that kids today won”t know what we’re talking about, and take what they see now, what is new, as the highest bar that is set…. We need to send everyone to Cinemassacre!

    • Don Skiver

      November 22, 2014 at 1:32 pm

      Mike is absolutely correct when he says it’s about making more money. They get to make new toys, new merchandise, don’t have to pay royalties to the original owners…it’s not about the content of the cartoons, and never has been. Anyone who says it’s about “liberals this” or “liberals that” is so completely deluded they can’t even see the forest through all the trees. Today’s cartoons have messages that are much more mature and darker in tone than the whimsical cartoons of the 40s. I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again…It’s about making as much money as possible. Period.

  • gunnarb77

    May 4, 2010 at 10:20 am

    lol Boobs in the Woods

  • May 6, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    I was born in 88 so my childhood was basically the 90’s and was lucky enough to watch all the old cartoons I think once we got into the 2000’s thats when the decline of classic cartoons hit. However I would like to note that Cartoon network still plays them on certain times every June they play a special call “June Bugs” which I think they still do also on the holidays they play them for example New Years this year (09 to 10) they had one. It’s very sad that its not an everyday thing anymore and I hope it will have a rebirth sometime in the near future but cartoons today do bring back classic moments from the past. Spongebob, Chowder, Flapjack, Adventure time they use elements from classic 90 nicktoons and go back to that wild random violent and innuendo style that looney tunes gave us. Its a tip of the hat to the classic and it is nice to see that even you give that tribute to the classic. Every time i watch a video and see that it warms the heart. Those cartoon have impacted me pretty deeply as well and it’s great to have the DVDs. Also in one of my History course we learned that a lot of time people went to nickelodeons (nickel movie theaters) just to see the cartoons. What are some of your favorite looney tune episodes?

  • christburner

    May 18, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    youd think with all the waste of space that are the additional channels on cable and satellite, that there would be a channel dedicated to these old cartoons,wouldnt you? I would..seriously, do we really need 9 channels of sports center 7 of martha stewart living,11 home shopping networks? i dont think so

  • christburner

    May 18, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    ps. it nice to see the other side of mr matei 🙂 as opposed to bein a fuckin mother fucker. cinemassacre rules you guys are the best!

  • Chamuco Roboto

    May 24, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Well im from Mexico ( dont hate plz) and its a different story here, ill start by saying that, to differ with USA not everyone has cable/sat TV (payd TV) like in my case ( Dont take it to a “mexico is a poor country” its not the point.and not true)
    And this cartoons play all the time in some channels, like canal 5 to the point i can say i’m sick of em , but when looking at you, i can feel what you feel. This were the golden ages of cartoons. They started it all.

  • May 28, 2010 at 12:42 am

    With regards to the Road Runner/Coyote cartoons… I remember my dad telling me when he was a kid they’d air them once or twice a year and it was literally the funniest thing ever, until they ran with that and made the Road Runner and Coyote Show, and milked it. He was allegedly pissed. But it’s funny how timeless Looney Tunes will always be. I picked up all of the Golden Collection DVD sets and my dad, who was about 50 at the time got all excited about it. My girlfriend was all for getting them with the intention to share it with our kids (when we have any). They transcend time.

  • May 28, 2010 at 12:51 am

    Also, with regards to not being shown on TV, there’s a cable station in Canada called Teletoon Retro and they play Looney Tunes stuff probably 2-3 hours or so over a 24 hour period. My cousin’s little kids totally love it.

  • July 3, 2010 at 11:59 pm

    Awesome videos. Here in Brazil those old cartoons still show on TV and a lot of kids still like it. =)

  • ass7

    July 18, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    i love looney tunes and they still show tom and jerry on cartoon network

  • ass7

    July 18, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    and cartoon network makes movies of tom and jerry but they suck ass in the cartoon they would have the dog punch tom in the face or bitch slap him and i think in one episode tom was running on a broad to get jerry and then jerry jumps and BAM tom gets it in the nuts but in the movies there not evan that good they took a master piece and killed it they wanted it to be less violent they made owner a pussy like before she would beat the cat but now she wont and before she was a fat black woman but now she’s a skinny white bitch and now there’s no more racism in cartoons any more.

  • sarcasmagasm

    August 6, 2010 at 6:11 am

    I think what really happened to the classic cartoons of the forties was not necessarily that they were un-PC or anything, but rather a combination of low ratings, a greater general awareness on parents part of what their children were watching, and the television ratings system

    I grew up in the 80s and I have some fuzzy memories of the late 80s and sensationalist media fueled moral panics about cable television content and the “potential harm” it could do to your children. This fueled many baby boomer parents organizations to be more aware of what the echo boomers where watching on TV, which of course led to moral crusading against potentially offensive material. Eventually came shows like Ren & Stimpy and Beavis & Butthead which set the moral crusaders into overdrive for a few years and lead to the adoption of the television rating system in 1997 which catagorized everything into either TV-G, TV-PG, or TV-14 ratings (TV-MA would come later). Because this rating system serves an instant judgment tool for parents and programmers, the appropriate age group for an audience is now determined by the rating it can get.

    Most of these old cartoons have too much drinking, smoking, violence and sexual allusions to be classified as TV-G or TV-PG without heavy editing, and with heavy editing they get low rating leading programmers to remove them from the air and replace them with shows that more easily fit into those nice neat ratings categories.

  • October 23, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    in my country the uk theyve been on the air the whole time especially the looney toons, from 1955-2002 theyve been on itv/citv, and theyve been on bbc from 2002-2004, theyve been on cartoon network from 1993-present and on bomerang from 2000 to present

  • th3jok3r

    January 29, 2011 at 11:03 am

    they still play the classic looney toons on the cartoon stations
    in other parts of the word, like Canada and Europe.

  • Pestan

    January 29, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    Im 15 in Canada and have been watching loony toons since I was a baby. In Canada we have many retro cartoon channels. And I recently downloaded all the old road runners onto my PC. So my generation does watch these shows and play those old games,,, were called geeks lol!

  • rustet

    January 29, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    I love how the effects animator of the Road Runner episode is named A.C. GAMER, which makes me wonder what “gamer” originally meant! That, and the beverage holders on the couch, we just don’t have that here in Norway..

  • January 29, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    i don’t think its only the old looney toons type stuff that is timeless. don’t get me wrong they are some of my absolute favorites, since they were still show on occasion in the very early 90’s when i was born. (im 19 now)
    i think all cartoons are timeless because they don’t have humor based on whats going on in the outside world. they are mostly a slap-stick type comedy which is very smart. a cat sliding his butt across a cheese grater while he chases a mouse will ALWAYS be funny. my kids will think its funny, and my grand kids grand kids will find it funny. 5000 years from now. kids will not be interested in star wars because they will be watching it in space themselves going “this looks like my ride to school on most days” but road runner dashing through the paint tunnel will forever make soft drinks squirt of of kids noses

  • asnaes1981

    January 30, 2011 at 8:46 am

    Mike’s right. It’s all about $$$. Sad, really. I love 80s-90s ‘toons and the classics, and it’s sad that the classic ‘toons are not seen by kids today.

  • Reimeioh

    January 30, 2011 at 11:52 am

    Finally got around to watching the 16mm episodes. It does take me back to when I was running the film projectors for the film studies courses in college, so I definitely know about splicing and machine running^_^.

  • April 19, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    Many of these old cartoons are now airing on boomerang.

  • April 19, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    Oh, believe me! If you saw what the “new” television cartoons look like today, you’d be begging to see the old stuff again! I’ve had more fun playing with geometric preschool blocks!!!

  • Vallinen

    May 4, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    I saw what you did there! With the abrupt ending!…. or maybe that was just coincidental.

  • bigbuck64

    May 5, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    James is right; some people are too sensitive and would find these classic masterpieces “offensive”. censorship and medial control a huge issue with a lot of viewers and producers. like they said in family guy, the FCC has a hold on us. Fuck the FCC.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NDPT0Ph5rA

    Mike makes a good, valid point as well.

  • GreenMushroom

    July 18, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    They play some of these old cartoons on Teletoon in the mornings. My Dad likes to sit and watch them. Not to worry! Some kids are still getting to see them. Granted, they’re not the same as the classics, but at least the tradition is still there.

    Great videos, guys. I enjoyed the learning experience and getting to see some of these old cartoons again!

  • Simo

    October 18, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    I miss these cartoons. Oh,the good ol’ days. 🙂

  • Looneystooge

    November 7, 2011 at 6:27 am

    You guys are awesome because you appreciate the classics as much as i myself. The looney tunes were shown with three stooges shorts as well in the theaters i believe. Before they were put on television. I also must say that the new “cartoon” animation on television today is nothing compared to the classics. The looney tunes took 9 months for each short episode. Back when people spent their time doing something that meant something to the world of animation. I agree with Mike when he said the classics had the best artwork and animation. Keep up the cimemassacring… You guys are great. Finally more people who know whats up on with that classic entertainment.

  • Looneystooge

    November 7, 2011 at 6:30 am

    I love the gold cinemassacre provides to me. thank you

  • Doogrisa

    January 31, 2012 at 12:36 am

    Im glad these were still on TV when i was growing up. good times.

  • dmwood78

    February 12, 2012 at 2:32 am

    Wow, the color on a couple of these, is excellent! The ones where the colors aren’t faded, are those I.B. Tech dye-transfers? They sure look like it!! Film is always the best 🙂

    Video just simply cannot do what film does!

    And yes, they do show these cartoons on TV. However, many of them (especially the WWII era ones) are heavily edited.

  • AustinAtrainHackett

    February 15, 2012 at 10:00 am

    there is an episode where Wile E Coyote catches the Roadrunner and then asks the audience what to do now

    • dmwood78

      February 15, 2012 at 11:03 am

      @AustinAtrainHackett

      One of my favs, is from “Daffy Duck and Egghead” (1937). Egghead is trying to sneak up on Daffy, who is hiding behind some weeds. All of a sudden, you see the silhouette of an audience member sneak in from the right (obviously he’s late, since the cartoon has already started), and try to take his seat. Egghead sees him and says, “Ssssshhhh….ssssssshhhhh…. sit down. There’s a duck in here. Sit down!”. The silhouetted audience member ducks down, but then gets back up again. Egghead gives him an angry look. “Sit down. Sit dowwwwwn!”. The silhouetted audience member ducks down, only to get back up once more. Unfortunately, Cartoon Network cut out the punchline of this gag: Egghead, who is now pissed off, shoots the audience member! You see the silhouette clutch his chest, turn around in pain, and then fall backwards out of the shot. LOL

  • Fluteloop

    February 25, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    Looney Tunes kicks fucking ass. However about editing in today’s day etc, it’s funny how these cartoons were “violent” and the 40s there was less crime and violence than there is today in a world that’s “Censored”.

  • Evans90

    March 29, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    They have the Bugs Bunny and Tweety Show (among others) on Teletoon every morning! (With all the violence and adult jokes as in the good old days!) So not all hope is lost! My Dad used to make us watch them all the time because he loved them so much. I still watch them sometimes. 

  • vgamer567

    April 6, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    i always loved watching those cartoons, and im only 12 now! I used to watch tom and jerry and bugs bunny every day after kindergarden school, eating my lunch. Then the shows all went downhill…Spongebob was shit, cartoons now are shit. Exept some of the good cartoons came back on when i was 11. Then just ended…

  • vgamer567

    April 6, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    Wait whats teletoon? Is it a channel or what? Cause the only cartoon channels I have are:

    28 – nickolodian
    29 – cartoon network
    109 – boomerang (i don’t know if the channel is accurate cause i dont watch TV anymore)

    and thats it.

  • japansgreatest

    July 26, 2012 at 3:35 am

    My favorite will always be the opera with Elmer and Bugs. “Kill da wabbit, kill da wabbit” and “spear and magic helmet” “what have i done,…….. I’ve killed da wabbit!”

  • japansgreatest

    July 26, 2012 at 3:36 am

    If you’re ever up at the ass crack of dawn, they play these classics on Cartoon network. Like 5 or 6 am.

  • pathhacker

    August 22, 2012 at 5:36 am

    I’m a child of the 80’s and still love watching these classics. Whenever my nieces and nephew come over I always have DVDs of Tom and Jerry and the bugs bunny show. I don’t think that most cartoons now days have the proper frame of mind or creativeness that drove the older cartoons. Pure fun for the sake of fun. Not to be educational or develop the innocent mids of today’s youth. I think among the few cartoons of today’s generation that have the same old school qualities are Adventure Time, with it’s gritty sometimes dark humor, and yes….Spongebob Squarepants. I always loved the inventions of the future type old school cartoons also. One of my favorite inventions was the oven that had a foot soaking draw underneath for the women of the house. I mean how stereotypically hilarious is that?

  • Stefanoragnopazzo

    August 22, 2012 at 7:49 am

    I wacthed this kind of Warner Bros. Cartoons in the early 90’s when i was a kid and that was the best.
    Now i watch anime because cartoons of this days are not what used to be.
    America is losing grip on freedom while japan has grown up big since the 70’s with animated 2D stuff.
    Too much CGI in american cartoons today, and the picture always seems lower quality then the golden era.

  • January 2, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    Another title for Boobs in the woods is porn star in the woods

  • January 4, 2013 at 8:02 am

    They do still show Looney Tunes. It’s on Cartoon Network.

  • January 28, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    Actually, to my knowledge, cartoonnetwork still plays these cartoons. They played them around 4 pm to 6pm Eastern standard last summer, and i think they might this upcoming summer. They’re also played every day after adult swim ends around 6am, which is when i get up for school so it suits me.

  • August 10, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    I’m 14 and. i have always liked older cartoons better. i think cartoons after 1999 really started going down hill. I’m not a fan of new cartoons, because they aren’t funny or creative and some of the ideas are plain stupid. If a modern cartoon is good and funny. You would have to work really hard to make it work. like that TMNT series from 2003. (They made a new one in cgi and it sucks.) but the old cartoons from at least before 1999 are more timeless. ( like Johnny Bravo, that shows fucking awesome)

  • BladeRunner

    September 23, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    awesome 3 part video, I watched this when you first put it up and just found my way back to them now!!

  • September 25, 2013 at 11:19 pm

    Just to let you know, I learned when I was teaching English in China, i learned the Chinese love Tom and Jerry. They know Bugs Bunny, but everytime I tried to put on Bugs Bunny to kill some time during class, the students would have a fit and ask for Tom and Jerry. Also, there were more mentions of Tom and Jerry when out and about outside the classroom from people of different age groups. That was just my experience.

  • Sara Houck

    February 11, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    I actually saw Boobs in the Woods on Cartoon Network earlier today while I was munching on some waffles.

  • T S

    April 6, 2014 at 1:56 am

    These are some of the best videos on the site. You guys really should do more.

  • April 23, 2014 at 12:21 am

    You guys are so fucking cool for collecting films! Just wow, really impressed. I’ve always wanted a cinema room, you guys have my dream room right there.

  • Sammy Schitz

    May 12, 2014 at 12:57 am

    I don’t think these cartoons will ever skip a generation. I was born in 96 but even I got to witness these great cartoons, largely thanks to my dad. That’s how these cartoons will survive, parents showing their kids in an endless cycle. You’re definitely right about them being timeless, I remember when I was really young I didn’t think what I was watching could be more than ten years old, let alone over sixty!

  • Kjetil hÃ¥vÃ¥s

    June 10, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    I have always loved the classic Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry in my Childhood. Good Old times.

  • May 4, 2015 at 11:16 pm

    what if the road runner was just a hallucination created by the coyote cause he was so hungry? That’s why he gets away with shit like running threw solid walls.

  • Liam McDonagh

    May 6, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    They do still show these cartoons! I’ve seen the one with Sylvester getting a mouse for a son tonnes of times.

  • December 11, 2015 at 12:20 am

    I see a Woody Woodpecker cartoon “Barber of Seville” on there which was the theatrical version. There was also a Castle Films print of the same Woody Woodpecker cartoon existed somewhere, and it was on 8mm and 16mm in black & white, but sadly, it was completely silent, so Castle decided to throw in a boatload of inter title cards that look stupid and downright terrible. That happened throughout the entire cartoon. If you know silent horror movies, Castle Films did put out silent versions of Woody Woodpecker and other cartoons and everything looks bad, really bad. Watch the originals, don’t watch the silent versions. Castle Films was the LJN of home movies.

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