Star Wars movie review – Part 2

Kurvos

Glad to hear it. I'm going to check it out. Everyone who jumped on the Ep I hating bandwagon were a bunch of zombies.

Kurvos Hah, stop advertising your review on every Star Wars video. Just so you know, there's this thing called an "Opinion", and it's this thing everyone is allowed to have, whether you like it or not. So what if people don't like a movie? You don't have to force them to stop hating something because you think it's good. It's good to people, it's not to others. That's life.

Mirokunite What? How do you figure jumping around like that makes the story better?

DBZMagus By setting up the characters better.

First you get to know Anakin, and follow him around. Then you jump forward a few years and follow Luke with the idea that Anakin is dead. Then you revile he is not, then jump back to see why he went that way, then you jump forward to see it all wrapped up.

Mirokunite DBZMagus I like. With my new kid I'll see if I can make that happen.

Probably won't though, the other kids will probably watch them in front of him before then.

FrankCabanski You have to remember that even by the original trilogy's standards so few Jedi was an abnormality. They were a knighthood, protectors of a republic. While rare they were never to the point of being thought of as myth before.

The mysteriousness of the Jedi was way higher in that era than any other time.

Jarnor Understood, but for a movie when it becomes common it becomes mundane. And mundane is boring.

Jarnor I liked Ep 3. It was the best of the prequels. However, two things stand out in my mind as BAD. One - The birth of Luke & Leia/Padme's death. It seemed a stupid way to kill her off. She just lost the will to live? It seemed like such a huge shift in character to me and just...stupid. Two - How quickly Anakin became Darth Vader after Sidious killed Mace Windu. Here's how it looked to me:

Sidious: Join the Darkside!

Anakin: No!

Sidious: Join the Darkside!

Anakin: Yes, Master!

So yeah...few plot points just seemed rushed and silly and could've been handled much better, IMHO. Other than that, loved the film.

Great review. Makes me want to watch the movies again. Or listen to the radio dramas. Those are AWESOME. If anyone hasn't heard them yet, I'd highly recommend giving them a listen. They add lots of great stuff. .

Waffle

For me, that was the part that made the most sense and was done well. You see his rage barely in check in the film (and shows) before. You see his leanings towards authoritarian solutions.

When he finds the truth about Palpatine/Sideous he is conflicted but turns in the old man he had thought of as a friend. He damn well wanted a fair trial about it though. He couldn't stand seeing his friend suffer any more than he later could his son.

After Mace is killed he realizes the Jedi will never take him back. The only thing left is his wife, and he thinks that only by following his new master can he save her.

Ironically, this causes him to hate when he thinks she has left him to join Obi-Wan. He lashes out at her with that hate and fatally harms her through the touch of the dark side. Between that and her loss of hope she gives up and passes away. I've seen it happen in real life when someone gives up, and that's without any harm from the Force.

Jarnor I do agree that you can see the internal struggle within Anakin throughout the movie. What I'm talking about is that specific MOMENT. When he gets his sith name that conflict seems to just vanish and he becomes perfectly OK with slaughtering children (or 'younglings', if you prefer). You could argue that he's so desperate to save Padme that he'll do anything, but that's not how it read to me. Blame on the acting, the editing, the script...whatever.

The catalyst for the moment also bothers me. He injures Mace Windu to stop him from killing Palpatine, then Mace Windu gets killed by Palpatine. He seems genuinely distraught over the fact that his decision to save Palpatine gets Mace killed, but then he's perfectly OK with killing the other Jedi.

I would've liked to see him at least question how the hell committing mass murder was going to save his wife. Especially when before Palpatine made it out that the Dark Side wasn't really bad and it was just the Jedi who had twisted force-users view of it.

What I would've liked to see is him not becoming so cold to what he was doing so quickly. Have him realize it's wrong to be killing all these people, but also realize he's gone in too deep to stop until he eventually breaks.

Oy. I hope that makes sense. lol. I'm a bit ill and tired, so my mind is a bit fuzzy. That probably could've been much shorter. lol.

Also, on the matter of Padme's death. I agree with everything you've said. I've seen that happen IRL too. What I take issue with is how the character is developed as a strong woman, but then chooses to abandon her newborn children. What would've been better IMO is if Anakin's attack on her actually did do serious physical damage, it's a choice between her life and the childrens, and she decides to sacrifice her own life so they can live. Something like that would've been more in keeping with the character. Not 'boo hoo, my husband has turned to the Dark Side. I don't want to live anymore.'

Again, hoping this all makes sense as I'm a bit fuzzy (medicine head. lol.)

Also, this is my second post on Cinemassacre XD. Just came out of lurkerdom ^^

Waffle Yeah, as good as it was to me those are valid points. I'd probably made things more clear myself. It's a LOT better than ep 2 & 3 though.

My take is that when he went over he snapped hardcore and turned his healthy emotions off. Isn't that what the Jedi wanted? ;) Basically going Jedi postal there.

Re: Padme - I saw it not as much as "oh no he went dark side" as pure mental and system shock at being dark side choked by the one she ultimately loved and trusted. That, combined with the corrupting harm of the dark side hitting her and the physical strain of labor doing her in.

Just my take anyways. As I said, Lucas could have made it more clear.

Jarnor

The main issue i have with darth mual is he was supposed to be a feirce and trained assassin. Killed A VERY exspericanced and powerful jedi. then dies to a padawan.. even as a kid i was like WHAt? it made it seem like darth mual wanted to die.. and oka maybe it was a fluke but they could have atleast made it a good fluke.. or a cheap shot.. Like as qui gon gin dies darthmual relishing in his victory gets killed by obi wan but no he dies from a stupid flip behind slash thing that doesnt even make sence..

RobertCain He wouldn't be the first person to be killed by overconfidence and stupidity. Toying with a foe like that rather than finishing the job has consequences.

EXPLODA! they were very trained, so they wernt gonna cut their balls off.

kwams how old r u? lol, jk. watch them all right now, they r amazing movies.

kwams Haha, probably not something you'd want to admit on Cinemassacre.com. That's cool, though. But yes, watch them, watch them right now!

ArikEmeis

Actually this is explained in comics and books and a few other things. Palpatine was suppose to be so powerful that kit and the other jedi, (forgot his name) couldn't sence his intentions nor his movement, the only one powerful enough to stand a chance was Mace Windu.

FrankDoomriderJohansen A New Hope has its own story, it starts at the beginning and stops at the end. They only put movies before and after it later on, when it made lots of money. Lord of the Rings is all one story.

Firewall_Philip_Hanan Blasphemy! Episode 5 was the best. Putting it under episode episode 6 LET ALONE EPISODE 2 is blasphemy!

Anyway, the only part I liked the prequels was the ending shot of episode 3 (with Luke in Tatooine) That really gave me shivers. In my case, you can't blame me disliking the prequels on nostalgia, I've seen episode 4 first, yes, but then I saw episode 2 and only then 5,6,1 and eventually 3 when it came out.