AVGN: Chronologically Confused About The Legend Of Zelda Timeline

Mike Matei / January 8th, 2008

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  • ThatGuy

    April 23, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    I Salute James Rolfe For Getting Me In To Nes And Snes Games Such As Zelda, Mario And Megaman.
    In Other Words, I Thank You For Your Videos.

  • shipman96

    May 3, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    what is up with the sequals to zelda. I can barly tell wich comes first

  • ajax5405

    May 5, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    hmm, thats given me a lot to think about, its probably Ocarina is the start, then link to the past, the the original legend of zelda, adventure of link with the windwaker taking place at the very end, majora’s mask part of its own parallel time line, phantom hourglass a sequal to wind waker and the rest taking place in their own parallel dimenions, wow i looked a little to deep into this for comfert

  • TigerFern

    June 5, 2010 at 8:56 am

    I’m playing Zelda as I watch this :D @thatguy with you on that, I love old games!

  • supermark64

    June 8, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    @TigerFern and ThatGuy: i agree too

  • zelda4evr

    June 9, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    confusing timeline, but still a great seris or the greatest!

  • dcwombat

    June 13, 2010 at 12:12 am

    James thanks for your videos. They got me playing SNES and NES and even Genesis games. I love the classics now. Thanks

  • volt28

    July 1, 2010 at 12:49 am

    I dont even want to take a stab at this time line. Its been fucked on to many times. Ocarina is the start I think that much is clear. The majora’s mask. Wind waker, which I loved playing despite the haters, comes next followed by Link to the pasy. In between is where I fit the rest with the two nes zelds comeing last. Twilight princess I havn’t played all the way though so I can’t say. The minish cap I think may be the start, because it is where link gets his cap. God knows where the fuck this new zelda from e3 will fit in.

  • kamakazi geek

    July 6, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    i’ve never played a zelda game
    but the last one looked pretty good :)
    cod rules though :)

  • Zelda_Boy

    July 7, 2010 at 2:47 am

    Hey James! You know the new Zelda game that was just announced, Skyward Sword? guess what…….IT’S ANOTHER PREQUEL!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

  • ass7

    July 19, 2010 at 12:00 pm

    twilight princes is the squeal to majoras mask because u play as adult link instead of kid link and the link from wind waker is a different link and links cross bow adventure its a training game to use the wii zapper so that doesn’t count as a zelda game

  • Ferrobbra

    August 7, 2010 at 2:48 am

    i think they are too fuckin lazy to make a new characters. so the most logical scenario is that its an alternate universe in which link, zelda and the rest of the characters suffer the indignity of being reborn over and over only to live out slightly different time line. fuckin cunts and their paradox’s

  • Christian

    August 22, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    the most complicated part of the time line to me is wind waker i mean hyrule is still underwater in the end so that confused me so i was just like screw it

  • matt13

    August 25, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    The timeline is so messed up, but apparently there is a Master Timeline but it’s a confidential document. The best part is that Syward Sword is going to be a prequel to Ocarina of Time

  • HawkeyeAVGNfan

    August 31, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    i’ve beaten Legend of zelda ocarina of time and windwaker and twilight princess… and some others i don’t remember. What i like about zelda that the boss battles are EPIC! orcarina of time seemed powerful. wind waker seemed i don’t know how to explain but twilight princess was just awesome especially the duel it felt EPIC and i MEAN EPIC the best duel ever!
    when i saw windwaker on the video i almost cried i remember when i’ve beaten it so epic awesome
    SO I DOn’T FRIGGIN CARE ABOUT THE TIMELINE JUST PLAY THE GAME AND BEAT THE HECK OUT OF IT
    AWesome episode

  • venom 51007

    September 7, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    JAMES I am begging u have got to do a review of both MODERN WARFARE 1 and 2 cause if u don’t i’ll die I think theres a modern warfare 3 in the works and if u go to youtube theres a video where there talking about a modern warfare 3 and they show the cover of it I hope it actually comes otherwise I’LL PRETEND MODERN WARFARE NEVER EXISTED AND I’ll GIVE IT TO A HOEBOE NAMED BILLYBOB.

  • foxman

    October 10, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    i would love to see James do a chronologically confused on the gradius/salamander/nemesis/life force series……konami really fucked up on that one…..

  • phoenix252005

    October 20, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    Holy Fucking Shit that is complicated!! I never thought of tem that way,I just really enjoyed playin them. You know what would be a great cronologically confused topic? The Metroid series! DO it James! YEAH! lol

  • SpeedyEric

    October 21, 2010 at 12:27 am

    Wow. “The Legend of Zelda” was like the “Lord of the Rings” of Nintendo. I find that awesome, even though I haven’t played any of the games.

    10:15- At least you gotta be thankful that the time line of the Star Wars Saga isn’t fracked up like the one in Zelda.

  • talotiti

    October 31, 2010 at 9:02 am

    Zelda is only a legend, so why we must try to find the timeline? Maybe there are many different versions of that same legend, so… I don’t know. Just enjoy the games :D

  • RaDioHeaD4life

    December 8, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    I still think this is an amazing video! I have played The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past last year, and since then I want to play another Zelda game. God love the Nerd! :) :) :) :)

  • December 21, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    To me, the Link series is basicly like Gundam, not ever single series connects, but its so fun to find the similarities in them.
    Although I have always felt wind waker was connected with Ocerina of Time because of the one building you go in on Wind waker, and you look at the stainglass windows, and you can recognize the characters on them.

  • denem1210

    January 28, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    im gonna try to set one thing straight about the legend of zelda timeline and answer the question for anyone who doesn’t know this yet but recently nintendo power magazine released a collectors special called Inside the legend the official guide to the legend of zelda. in this magazine on page 6 it states “Although some titles do share continuity – such as The Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks – others are totally independant; there is no official timeline or chronology that ties the entire series together.” Im only posting for the people who have just learned about this problem by watching the video.

  • Pokerfish

    February 20, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    Okay you said we have a sequel to the original, a prequel to the original, a sequel to the prequel, a prequel to the prequel, and a sequel to the young Link of the prequel’s prequel and I could barely keep up with that, but there’s EVEN MORE THE TIMELINE?!?!? Holy crap…

  • ninja1

    March 5, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    ocarina of time is the first one, actually maybe the minish cap is first then ocarina of time follows that. after that i havent got a fucking clue, but i disagree with james that a link to the past is anywhere near the start

  • ztkerls

    March 17, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    I know its hard to believe that they were thinking so far ahead when making these games but the only logical place that Links Awakening fits in in my opinion is between Twilight Princess and Wind Waker.

  • Armoterra

    April 16, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    hahahaha….. Apparently, Skyward Sword is a PREQUEL to Ocarina of Time.

  • punksterdaddy

    May 15, 2011 at 11:42 am

    I like the chronologically confused stuff that you do, it should be a regular feature on here?

  • starlinej

    May 26, 2011 at 9:00 am

    The Zelda 64 official website (back when the internet was still pretty young) had a timeline up that said there was “one Link” and put the games in order (IIRC, Ocarina of Time came first and Link’s Awakening was ‘sidequest’ in Zelda 2). But I doubt you can count this article as canon… especially since I haven’t been able to find it since.

    I love the Miyamoto picture at 6:03… like he’s saying “Leave me the hell out of this.”

  • choykr

    May 27, 2011 at 1:46 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHCbp5LTgbU
    OMG james u gonna love this video

  • ScratchButt

    May 27, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    Damn Choykr, you beat me too it.

    definitely check this out the video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHCbp5LTgbU

    Id love to see a 2 minute opinion of this, its Back to the Future meets Legend of Zelda. It will explain and clear up all of your confusion.

  • MegatoastX

    May 27, 2011 at 7:04 pm

    Ok what the fuck! Skyward sword is now the first zelda game in the timeline. It even explanes in the game how the master sword gets its name. God damn!

  • Calavera

    June 12, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    It seems like James was so much more passionate about games and the AVGN back then. It’s a shame he has lost almost all interest in it nowadays.

  • sgtguy1

    June 30, 2011 at 10:24 am

    It was a link to the past because it was return to the original format

  • July 30, 2011 at 1:13 am

    check this out http://elreino.net/web/viewtopic.php?t=8404

    but it’s in spanish…enjoy it xD

  • July 30, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    so heres the run down it goes like this there are diffrent timelines in the link story here they are first its the early hymlian history then child history then adult history now the order in which they come in it first goes adult child then early hymlain and now for the games now this might seem confusing to you the expanation will be at the end of this comment ok 1st it goes oracle of ages then oracle of seasons then the adventure of link lealend of zelda links awakening then a link to the past then four swords adventures then four swords then minish cap sprit tracks phantom of the hourglass and finally windwaker this is all adult link now for the child link is twilight princess then majoras mask then the last 2 games are ocarina of time and the skyward sword now this is goin from past to future but this is swaped if you want to read from past to furture ull read from bottem to top and the same reversed enjoy

    http://www.zeldainformer.com/2011/07/zelda-informer-timeline-number-one.html

    and one more thing there is the volume two of this which is here which is the same thing but shorter read from bottem to top if u want to read past to future

    thanks for your vid made me do reasearch

  • Fei Wong

    August 1, 2011 at 10:09 am

    Skyward Sword is supposed to be the first in the Chronology, i have yet to play it ( i cant wait) but Zelda is why i’m here right now, the game that as a kid opened a new world for me, And i’m excited as hell about it, i only seen a couple trailers and a little about the game itself, like now you cant even tell if you’re in the map or inside a dungeon :O

    I’m now beating Ocarina 3D and hell, its real sweet now! it feels more vibrant with the improved framerate ( here in europe we got the 50hz PAL version of ocarina and it was somawhat slow to the NTSC counterpart), new graphics and models, and a Masterquest bonus ( its still the only Zelda game along with Kodai No Sakiban i didnt beated up :P )
    I’m expecting the same treatment to one of the most gorgeous games of all time: Majora’s Mask ( i love every Zelda game, but ALTTP and Majora’s Mask are the ones that touched my heart in a serious way)

    Cheers from Spain!

  • SoTH

    August 6, 2011 at 3:19 am

    I think the timeline went awry because they chose to start making prequels instead of sequels. If you look, 2 was the more different and innovative out of either of the 3 at the time. As you’ll see, Zelda titles like Z:TP on Wii actually feel the most fresh by sense.

    Most of these Zelda games are a repeat of the same Gannon resurrection story, over and over. The goal and objectives of the game are important, so story is important in the variety department. Sure, you can have many objectives also, with sub-objectives, but the Gannon thing will just be done to death. Only a few Zelda titles don’t feature him, and really, he’s not the biggest monster that can be devised with his back story. I’d rather have a serial that can push Gannon aside for a god while, with a fresh revisit, and not just a rehash of 1 and 2′s plot, remade over and over. Its Zelda, not Gannon, that the series is entitled to. In fact, why name all these kids link either, then? Can’t they be other characters all together.

    They want to fill in gaps and things in the OoT saga, but what about the original series on NES. Its not like it was another Link, so just who was this Zelda asleep in 2? What about continuing the original series? I think it has more interesting promise than all these prequels.

    Zelda is the only series that actually needs a reboot, just re-imagining the original into a clever 3d title, like Zero Mission was of the original Metroid. Others are just to coax people. A sequel can have new story ideas, character development and much more, just anything a reboot and much more. A sequel is a fresh slate, so the only thing it can’t do is make a new universe. And that’s the problem with making it a fad and not for rebooting old franchises. A new universe coincides and not takes over unjustly.

  • Akatskimilan

    August 16, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    One thing that was overlooked was the difference in titles for Zelda 3. The English language title is misleading due to making you think it forces it somewhere in the timeline. The original Japanese title, 神々のトライフォース (Kamigami no Triforce), translates to “Triforce of the Gods” and implies nothing about time at all.

    Link’s Awakening was a little different from 夢をみる島 (ummm…Island Where One Sees Dreams….literal translations suck due to the fact that sentence fragments are grammatically correct in Japanese which is why you can’t use Google fucking Translate) but not to the point of being nowhere close like the SNES subtitle.

    Before you dismiss me as just a rambling weeaboo I should point out that I live in Japan, speak Japanese, and recently obtained a job at a Japanese game company doing the English translation of the first game they will launch in America later this year (so this nit-picky translation stuff is actually how I make a living by beating my head against the wall trying to deal with those damned sentence fragments which have become the bane of my fucking existence).

    By the way, in case anyone reading this hasn’t seen the Japanese commercials, they are hilarious. Like their take on Thriller:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnziW56Gl0A

  • September 5, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    i loved zelda holmes it was a great game ese…i still have it on my old nes ….this was o good video ,i finally joined your sight it coool.

  • Agile

    September 18, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Ocarina of time is without doubt (atleast for me) the very first in the timeline since it tells how link and zelda met for the first time and how link got his fairy.

  • September 25, 2011 at 11:51 am

    Why does it say “VIES” about the hearts at 9:06? Am I reading this wrong or is that another version of the game or what?

  • September 29, 2011 at 6:48 am

    Great Chronologically!

  • Throwback Neil

    October 24, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    If it’s a different Zelda in Zelda II then how is it a sequel? That makes it a reboot. Link to the past is a remake of the original. Ocharina’s plot was made around the backstory of Link to the past. Majora’s mask and Wind Waker branch off the cannon of the original. Twilight Princess is at the very end. The Cartoon is an adaptation of the original. The CD-i games are either a sad attempt at another reboot or bad fanfictions. Handheld ports and Four Swords games don’t count. Micro Zelda will be the first Zelda game on the holodeck.

  • October 29, 2011 at 7:15 am

    http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1211067p1.html i found this this morning i immediately went here. THERE IS A TIMELINE, but its secret.

    • GuilhermedeSouza

      December 1, 2011 at 12:06 pm

      “It’s a secret” sounds like “It would be too troublesome to think on a timeline, so let’s pretend it’s a secret”

  • Throwback Neil

    November 3, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    The order goes-
    -Skyward Sword
    -The Minish Cap
    -Four Swords
    -Four Swords Adventures
    -Ocharina of time
    -Majora’s mask
    -Wind Waker
    -Phantom Hourglass
    -Spirit Tracks
    -Link to the Past
    -Link’s Awakening
    -Twilight Princess

    1 and 2 don’t count. The Cd-i games don’t count. The Animated Series and Captain N don’t count. The Cereal dosen’t count.

    • acid.burn857

      November 16, 2011 at 12:17 pm

      what about the game”n”watch game ?

    • You Only Live Thrice

      November 20, 2011 at 4:50 pm

      “The Cereal dosen’t count.” hahah

      thats pretty thorough. did they ever make a sequal?

      i think thats where i got my first subscription to Nintendo Power. or was that Fruit Rollups

    • You Only Live Thrice

      November 20, 2011 at 4:54 pm

      “The Cereal dosen’t count.” hahah

      thats pretty thorough. did they ever make a sequal?

      i think thats where i got my first subscription to Nintendo Power. or maybe it was Fruit Rollups

    • TheGM666

      January 20, 2012 at 11:51 am

      Your timeline is one of the better ones out there, but 1 and 2 are i it. Nintendo has admitted to millions of nonsensical plot-holes from translations to sequels.

      The actual timeline would include all of them, but generally follow the same order and pace you wrote in your comment.

      It mostly boils down to the fact that the big N DID NOT make them officially connect. So for anyone to say “YEP THIS IIIIIIIISSSSS THE ACTUAL LIST!!!” is a waste of time.

      Because anyone who’s adult enough to accept “there is no preconceived answer” does accept that except for a few mentions of eachother, there IS NO actual placement of most Zelda games in relation to eachother, OFFICIALLY.

      You either accept it and have the same general idea we are all working towards forcing Nintendo to make official some day, or you are just making it up so you can look cool.

      There is no

      “The order goes-” as you put. But I do like your timeline. One of the better ones I’ve seen.

  • vedri11

    November 26, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    i got stuck in the ceiling too

  • FranklinBolden

    November 27, 2011 at 3:10 am

    Personally, I believe that the games do not fit together neatly. Even if you say that a game comes before another one using logic, reading the dialogue and watching the events during the game reveal how irreconcilable they are with each other.

    It is just better to say that each story is a new legend. That is the way I took it anyway. Nintendo just likes to feed fans’ imaginations and not spoil their fun by revealing the fact that they intended each as a new legend.

  • muzackattack

    December 14, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    WIND WAKER SUCKS I HATE THAT SHIT

    • Superzone13

      February 16, 2012 at 5:06 pm

      @muzackattack Wind Waker is a masterpiece. The hell are you smoking.

  • JaimeSmithReynoso

    December 15, 2011 at 1:18 am

    The best of everything is that Skyward Sword is another Precuel!!!! lol

  • Tekkenfan

    December 16, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    Man seems like the mario series legend of zelda series call of duty and assassins creed and final fantasy series would live on forever till we die.

  • MartinSimpson

    December 21, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    Well, there’s your answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQMUjlWnh5M

    Nintendo made this official.

  • MartinSimpson

    December 21, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Well, there’s your answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQMUjlWnh5M

    Nintendo made this official.

  • WarrenLara

    December 22, 2011 at 2:50 am

    So turns out that there are not two, but three timeline splits, which all happen in Ocarina of Time. One involves Link defeating Ganondorf as an adult, the second one with Link warning Zelda about Ganondorf when he gets sent back in time, and the third one happens if Link fails in Ocarina of Time. It might be the official timeline.

    Main Timeline:1. Skyward Sword2. Minish Cap3. Four Swords4. Ocarina of Time

    Split 1(Link warns Zelda about Ganondorf before he takes over Hyrule (AKA Childhood Branch)):5. Majora’s Mask6. Twilight Princess7. Four Swords Adventures

    Split 2(Ganondorf takes over Hyrule and is defeated by adult Link (AKA Adult Branch))5. Wind Waker6. Phantom Hourglass7. Spirit TracksSplit 3(Link fails in his mission to stop Ganondorf)5. A Link to the Past6. Oracle of Ages/Oracle of Seasons7. Link’s Awakening8. The Legend of Zelda9. Zelda II: The Adventure of LinkSources:http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/rumor/28755http://mynintendonews.com/2011/12/21/heres-the-legend-of-zelda-timeline/http://kotaku.com/5869993/this-might-actually-be-the-official-zelda-timeline

  • WarrenLara

    December 22, 2011 at 2:56 am

    So turns out that there are not two, but three timeline splits, which all happen in Ocarina of Time. One involves Link defeating Ganondorf as an adult, the second one with Link warning Zelda about Ganondorf when he gets sent back in time, and the third one happens if Link fails in Ocarina of Time. It might be the official timeline.

    Main Timeline: Skyward Sword -> Minish Cap -> Four Swords -> Ocarina of Time

    Split 1 (Link warns Zelda about Ganondorf before he takes over Hyrule (AKA Childhood Branch)): Majora’s Mask -> Twilight Princess -> Four Swords Adventures

    Split 2 (Ganondorf takes over Hyrule and is defeated by adult Link (AKA Adult Branch)) Wind Waker -> Phantom Hourglass -> Spirit TracksSplit 3 (Link fails in his mission to stop Ganondorf) A Link to the Past -> Oracle of Ages/Oracle of Seasons -> Link’s Awakening -> The Legend of Zelda -> Zelda II: The Adventure of LinkSources- http://kotaku.com/5869993/this-might-actually-be-the-official-zelda-timeline

    - http://mynintendonews.com/2011/12/21/heres-the-legend-of-zelda-timeline/- http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/rumor/28755

  • WarrenLara

    December 22, 2011 at 2:58 am

    So turns out that there are not two, but three timeline splits, which all happen in Ocarina of Time. One involves Link defeating Ganondorf as an adult, the second one with Link warning Zelda about Ganondorf when he gets sent back in time, and the third one happens if Link fails in Ocarina of Time. It might be the official timeline.

    Main Timeline: Skyward Sword -> Minish Cap -> Four Swords -> Ocarina of Time

    Split 1 (Link warns Zelda about Ganondorf before he takes over Hyrule (AKA Childhood Branch)): Majora’s Mask -> Twilight Princess -> Four Swords Adventures

    Split 2 (Ganondorf takes over Hyrule and is defeated by adult Link (AKA Adult Branch)) Wind Waker -> Phantom Hourglass -> Spirit TracksSplit 3 (Link fails in his mission to stop Ganondorf) A Link to the Past -> Oracle of Ages/Oracle of Seasons -> Link’s Awakening -> The Legend of Zelda -> Zelda II: The Adventure of Link

    Sources

    - http://kotaku.com/5869993/this-might-actually-be-the-official-zelda-timeline

    - http://mynintendonews.com/2011/12/21/heres-the-legend-of-zelda-timeline/

    - http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/rumor/28755

  • WarrenLara

    December 22, 2011 at 2:58 am

    So turns out that there are not two, but three timeline splits, which all happen in Ocarina of Time. One involves Link defeating Ganondorf as an adult, the second one with Link warning Zelda about Ganondorf when he gets sent back in time, and the third one happens if Link fails in Ocarina of Time. It might be the official timeline.

    Main Timeline: Skyward Sword -> Minish Cap -> Four Swords -> Ocarina of Time

    Split 1 (Link warns Zelda about Ganondorf before he takes over Hyrule (AKA Childhood Branch)): Majora’s Mask -> Twilight Princess -> Four Swords Adventures

    Split 2 (Ganondorf takes over Hyrule and is defeated by adult Link (AKA Adult Branch)) Wind Waker -> Phantom Hourglass -> Spirit TracksSplit 3 (Link fails in his mission to stop Ganondorf) A Link to the Past -> Oracle of Ages/Oracle of Seasons -> Link’s Awakening -> The Legend of Zelda -> Zelda II: The Adventure of Link

    Sources

    - http://kotaku.com/5869993/this-might-actually-be-the-official-zelda-timeline

    - http://mynintendonews.com/2011/12/21/heres-the-legend-of-zelda-timeline/

    - http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/rumor/28755

  • WarrenLara

    December 22, 2011 at 2:59 am

    So turns out that there are not two, but three timeline splits, which all happen in Ocarina of Time. One involves Link defeating Ganondorf as an adult, the second one with Link warning Zelda about Ganondorf when he gets sent back in time, and the third one happens if Link fails in Ocarina of Time. It might be the official timeline.

    Main Timeline: Skyward Sword -> Minish Cap -> Four Swords -> Ocarina of Time

    Split 1 (Link warns Zelda about Ganondorf before he takes over Hyrule (AKA Childhood Branch)): Majora’s Mask -> Twilight Princess -> Four Swords Adventures

    Split 2 (Ganondorf takes over Hyrule and is defeated by adult Link (AKA Adult Branch)) Wind Waker -> Phantom Hourglass -> Spirit TracksSplit 3 (Link fails in his mission to stop Ganondorf) A Link to the Past -> Oracle of Ages/Oracle of Seasons -> Link’s Awakening -> The Legend of Zelda -> Zelda II: The Adventure of Link

    Sources

    -http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/rumor/28755

    - http://kotaku.com/5869993/this-might-actually-be-the-official-zelda-timeline

  • WarrenLara

    December 22, 2011 at 3:11 am

    The official timeline goes like this (and yes, there are THREE splits in the timeline, all happening after Ocarina of Time):

    - Skyward Sword- Minish Cap- Four Swords- Ocarina of TimeSplit 1 (Link warns Zelda about Ganondorf after he is sent back in time, then they stop Ganondorf)

    - Majora’s Mask- Twilight Princess- Four Swords Adventures

    Split 2 (Ganondorf takes over Hyrule, but is defeated by Link as an adult)

    - Wind Waker- Phantom Hourglass- Spirit TracksSplit 3 (Link fails to stop Ganondorf in Ocarina of Time)

    - A Link to the Past

    - Oracle of Seasons/Oracle of Ages

    - Link’s Awakening

    - The Legend of Zelda

    - Zelda II: The Adventure of Link

    http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/rumor/28755

  • WarrenLara

    December 22, 2011 at 3:14 am

    The official timeline goes like this (and yes, there are THREE splits in the timeline, all happening after Ocarina of Time):

    - Skyward Sword

    - Minish Cap

    - Four Swords

    - Ocarina of Time

    - Split 1 (Link warns Zelda about Ganondorf after he is sent back in time, then they stop Ganondorf)

    - Majora’s Mask

    - Twilight Princess

    - Four Swords Adventures

    - Split 2 (Ganondorf takes over Hyrule, but is defeated by Link as an adult)

    - Wind Waker

    - Phantom Hourglass

    - Spirit Tracks

    - Split 3 (Link fails to stop Ganondorf in Ocarina of Time)

    - A Link to the Past

    - Oracle of Seasons/Oracle of Ages

    - Link’s Awakening

    - The Legend of Zelda

    - Zelda II: The Adventure of Link

    - http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/rumor/28755

  • WarrenLara

    December 22, 2011 at 3:17 am

    The official timeline goes like this (and yes, there are THREE splits in the timeline, all happening after Ocarina of Time):

    - Skyward Sword – Minish Cap – Four Swords – Ocarina of Time Split 1 (Link warns Zelda about Ganondorf after he is sent back in time, then they stop Ganondorf)

    - Majora’s Mask – Twilight Princess – Four Swords Adventures

    Split 2 (Ganondorf takes over Hyrule, but is defeated by Link as an adult)

    - Wind Waker – Phantom Hourglass – Spirit Tracks Split 3 (Link fails to stop Ganondorf in Ocarina of Time)

    - A Link to the Past

    - Oracle of Seasons/Oracle of Ages

    - Link’s Awakening

    - The Legend of Zelda

    - Zelda II: The Adventure of Link

    http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/rumor/28755

  • JavierPortilla

    December 25, 2011 at 8:26 am

    So James/Mike, what do you guys think of the “official” timeline revealed??

    I just re-watched this video and I’m amazed that you weren’t that far off…!

    Cheers from Chile!

  • sterling.treadwell

    December 30, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Hey guys.. I know this is an older video and all but this is a pretty damn perfect one to go with your attempt here. It merged Back to the future and zelda and in the second half when it gets to “trying” to explain how the zelda timeline got screwed up by dabbling with time travel.. well.. it helps emphasize the very confusion you showed off here. Production value is decent, though imperfect.Still.. I laughed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aHCbp5LTgbU#!

  • RafaelDourado

    January 2, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    I saw this http://judao.mtv.uol.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Zelda.jpg and remembered your video. It is the official timeline.

  • DaveMcGrath

    January 11, 2012 at 2:11 am

    I know it is never going to happen but… When I watch this review I always dream of seeing ANY Bethesda title (Daggerfall or Morrowind or Skyrim) But none of those games really “fit” the AVGN style of course! So I just sit back and enjoy this when I need some fantasy reviews.

    (Not saying this is the only Fantasy-esque review btw. Just a current faveorite.)

  • January 16, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    So…. Skyward Sword is first, then Minish Cap, then Four Swords, then Ocarina of Time, then there’s a split of weather “the hero of time” won or lost. if the hero of time won then when he’s sent back to the childhood, majoras mask takes place, then Twighlite Princess, then Four Swords Adventure, but then let’s go to the adult era where hyrule is flooded. That’s where Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Glass take place. But let’s go back to where Ocarina of Time, if the hero of time lost. This is where a link to the past takes place, then oracle of ages/seasons and then links awakening. Then the legend of zelda then zelda II the adventure of link.

  • TheGM666

    January 20, 2012 at 11:22 am

    Ocarina

    NOT

    Oak – a- rina.

    Ah – Kuh – Ree – nuh

    Say it with me now

    Ah – Kuh – Ree – nuh

    I can’t stand when people with internt videos get this wrong. It only allows other people who get it wrong to say “yuh huh, SEE, that guy said it that way TOO”

    I also know kids in HIGHSCHOOL who called it “Hee Roo Lay” instead of “Hyrule” (Hi – rule)

    So if you want to look like you know what you’re talking about, here’s a free tip to make yourself look more in-the-know.

    Ah – Kuh – Ree – Nuh

    Ocarina

    • blanketwarm

      January 23, 2012 at 10:06 am

      @TheGM666 Go outside.

    • Piet

      January 25, 2012 at 1:11 am

      @TheGM666 And how do you pronouce “moron”, moron?

    • PhillipeLuna

      January 26, 2012 at 2:56 am

      @TheGM666 who gives a shit about the pronounce, is just like the the timeline doesn’t meter how hard you try you can’t piece all together, because for me “Y” is not “I” and “O” is not “ah”, i read what’s write not “look at my i know how it sound like”. now, i ask you that “you know the why goats poo balls and horses poo a pile of shit?” i bet the answer is no so, if even don’t understand about shit, who the hack are you to say how it suppose to sound!

      • TheGM666

        January 26, 2012 at 9:43 pm

        @PhillipeLuna @TheGM666

        I dont care if you dont caer about pronunciation. If you like soundig like an idiot go ahead. I was helping someone out by letting them know how to say something. BTW I have 3 negative responses but receive 6 personal compliments for it. HA Some people know sounding like an idiot just makes you a step closer to being one.

      • Piet

        January 31, 2012 at 1:05 am

        @TheGM666

        Dont you realise that you sound like an idiot trying to explain an other idiot why youre the dumbest “i know how to pronounce” fuckhead walking on planet earth?

      • Ch

        February 3, 2012 at 7:14 am

        @TheGM666 @PhillipeLuna You’re both idiots. Phillipe, the english language does not work like that at all. TheGM, nobody gives a shit. If incorrect pronunciation makes Phillipe look like an idiot, guess what incorrect grammar makes you look like.

      • Frank Black Francis

        February 29, 2012 at 11:46 pm

         @Ch  Actually GM has a point,the world now is full of idiots like you ch, who now don’t give a shit about how they speak, grammar and spelling are fucking important, without them people just modify the language and tranform it into the language of idiots, so ch if you want to be an idiot like the rest, go ahead, but leave alone poeple like GM, who at least try to educate the moronic population of assholes that write, speak and express themselves like a fucking bunch of retarded apes.

      • Ch

        March 1, 2012 at 10:38 am

         @Frank Black Francis Sorry? As I see it, my grammar is much better than yours. As English is not my native language, it actually takes effort to write like this, too. If anything, it is I who actually gives a shit about my grammar, and not you.

      • Ch

        March 1, 2012 at 10:42 am

         @Frank Black Francis If you’re confused as to what I’m referring to:
        1. Your whole post is a single long-ass sentence.
        2. Spelling errors. (e.g. poeple)
        3. Bad grammar (e.g. ‘point,the’)

      • PaulHagebock

        February 7, 2012 at 5:14 pm

        @PhillipeLuna @TheGM666 Dear god spelling and grammar errors galore! I think it’s funny that you guys would bash on GM for being able to properly read, spell, and use proper PRONUNCIATION.

        GM, don’t let these illiterate retards get you down. Haters gonna hate.

    • Ultimaniacx4

      February 13, 2012 at 3:09 am

      @TheGM666 I know it’s not a Japanese word, but the original Japanese spelling is オカリナ. That spells Oh-Kah-Ree-Nah. It’s impossible to misread Japanese wording unless it’s in Kanji, which it’s not.

    • KevinKruk

      March 2, 2012 at 8:47 pm

       @TheGM666 … how…does that even work? I have never seen a word start witht he sound “ah” and begin with an O. Like hell, if you’ve got proof of it, i’m all ears, I’m not trying to slam your opinion.
       
      But to me it just seems like a quirk of linguistic for wherever it is you live.
       
      Also. You’re kind of a dick aren’t you.

  • metalfuk1

    January 30, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    Zelda series blows. there i said it

  • Hugoso

    February 10, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    At some point of the video you got it James: The producers just didn’t give a f*ck for the storyline. They just want to release more and more games and gain more and more money! BTW, Zelda Ocarina of Time is a masterpiece!

  • Hugoso

    February 10, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    At some point of the video you got it James: The producers just didn’t give a f*ck to the storyline. They just wanted to release more and more games and gain more and more money! BTW, Zelda Ocarina of Time is a masterpiece!

  • Superzone13

    February 16, 2012 at 5:07 pm

    James should do a follow up to this video. Nintendo recently revealed the “official” Zelda timeline, which includes a very interesting three-way split timeline. I’d love to see his thoughts on it.

  • Melman1955

    February 29, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    A Link to the Past was originally The Triforce of the Gods in Japan, so the title has nothing to do with the timeline. It was changed for America because on Gods in the title.

  • Melman1955

    February 29, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    A Link to the Past was originally The Triforce of the Gods in Japan, so the title has nothing to do with the timeline. It was changed for America because of Gods in the title.

  • HorazStCruz

    March 3, 2012 at 6:22 am

    How epic the game art was for A Link to the Past. How fucking epic.
     
    I remember these illustrations and Street Fighter II’s art shown on Nintendo Power as my greatest, HEAVIEST influences for becoming an artist and a RPG hardcore fan.
    It turned out they always had the better character and monster designs.

  • Tobuscus

    March 14, 2012 at 2:07 am

    Of course Skyward Sword is ANOTHER FUCKING PREQUEL and I think that Twilight Princess takes place generations after Ocarina of Time because it shows the temple of time after it has been destroyed even though the temple of time is in a sacred forest grove and not near a market but I can still find ways that Twilight Princess can relate to Ocarina of Time.

  • lancep2012

    March 18, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    Because it was only in Japan on the Satellaview most don’t about it but The Legend of Zelda Ancient Stone Tablets I condenser the true sequel to A link to the past.

  • JamesCooke

    March 19, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    Tits and Zelda’s face, around the world a thousand fanboys just jizzed

  • Fei Wong

    April 2, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    James, Nintendo released the official timeline for the series not too long ago, you must check it out if you can.

  • Fei Wong

    April 2, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    And one thing, A link to the past is only a american title, the japanese original is called Triforce of Gods, but because of the religious means it was changed, also as the Sacred Land that became Golden Land, and Aghanim was a priest on the original.
    I know the video is old, but i wanted to share it, as i played all the games since childhood from the first one on NES, i didnt care as the conections, as you can see Nintendo never cared the link between games until Majora’s Mask and Eiji Aonuma became the director of Zelda games.

  • FullerxspectruM

    April 7, 2012 at 8:18 am

    How does everyone feel about the Zelda timeline Nintendo released? Y’know, how it has the Capcom games and not the Phillips ones(with good reason)? lol

  • 8-BIT BOB

    April 14, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    at least now the timeline is revealed with skyward sword being the first

  • JJLehto

    May 9, 2012 at 11:59 am

    His nerdiest video ever

  • Divinehero

    June 15, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    i wish he’d do more videos like this

  • WinterDeathPeach

    July 20, 2012 at 4:37 am

    For anyone that doesn’t know Nintendo actually released a timeline for the Zelda series. The timeline being 1st Skyward Sword 2nd The Minish Cap 3rd Four Swords(gba) 4th Ocarina of Time, than after that it’s actually three different timelines. The first being if Ganon defeated Link. That timeline being 1st Link to the Past 2nd Oracle of Ages/Seasons 3rd Link’s Awaking 4th The legend of Zelda 5th Zelda 2. Then one timeline where Link defeated Ganon. That timeline being 1st Majora’s Mask 2nd Twilight Princess 3rd Four Swords (GameCube) Then a alternative timeline where Link defeated Ganon. That one being 1st Wink Waker 2nd Phantom Hourglass 3rd Spirit Tracks. So I guess this clears up a lot for the fans, this was all in a artbook that Nintendo released in December.

  • xJake

    August 18, 2012 at 12:13 am

    Skyward sword is the absolute prequel to the entire Zelda series :)

    I watched my sister play and beat the game, and the story was made so much more clear!

  • ehwrestler345

    September 11, 2012 at 10:58 am

    You guys might have heard about this, but it looks good and should answer A LOT of questions. Cheers.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/ref=pe_253370_25707400_pe_b1/?ASIN=1616550414

  • River

    October 13, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey…

  • Steveee

    November 28, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    Official Nintendo timeline recently released:

    ……………………………. — WW/PH – ST
    SS – MC – FS – OoT — MM – TP – FSA
    ……………………………. — LttP/OoX/LA – LoZ/AoL

    After the Legends of the Gods & the Hero of Time era (SS/MC/FS/OoT), the timeline can be split three ways:

    - In The Hero of Wind & A New World era (WW/PH/ST), Ganondorf is sealed.

    - In The Dark World & The Hero’s Descendants era (MM/TP/FSA), Link successfully protects the Sacred Realm, triumphing over Ganon.

    - In the Hyrule’s Decline & The Last Hero era (LttP/OoX/LA/LoZ/AoL), Link is defeated.

    It doesn’t make much sense.
    For the era where “The Hero is Defeated”, they even said it themselves about AoL that “Ganon’s revival [is] prevented”. Because it takes place at the end, shouldn’t that mean Link bested Ganon in this era?

    In The Dark World & The Hero’s Descendants era, where “The Hero is successful”, they mentioned that in FSA, “Ganondorf [is] reincarnated” and “Vaati [is] resurrected”. How the heck does that equal Link’s success?

    But whatever, because the whole timeline doesn’t make sense.

    THIS is how it should look, in conjunction to Nintendo’s theory (and yes, their timeline may as well be another fan-made one, because it has flaws):

    ……………………. — WW/PH – ST
    SS – MC – OoT
    ……………………. — MM – TP – FS/FSA – LttP/OoX/LA – LoZ/AoL

    (credits to ZestanorLink for the edited timeline)

  • piedude67

    February 4, 2013 at 1:24 am

    well now i am glad Hyrule Historia came out to the us, we finally have the timeline.

  • likalaruku

    February 12, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    …& then 2.5-3 years latter, the official timeline is released & people are still debating about it. Probably doesn’t help that Four Swords shows up in 2 places to confuse the fuck out of new fans.

  • likalaruku

    February 12, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    I like how even the official timeline doesn’t count the CD-i games.

  • February 25, 2013 at 7:18 pm

    I think you should read Hyrule’s Historia, it has a lot of answers

  • A6K

    March 31, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    I always thought each Zelda game on a new system was a reboot.

  • Anthony D'Elia

    June 17, 2013 at 8:55 pm

  • July 21, 2013 at 12:54 am

    Your videos and you work are saving my sanity right now. Went through a breakup and it seems the only thing that can put a smile on my face is rewatching your episodes. Thank you.

  • Alex Murray

    December 12, 2013 at 7:43 pm

    Ive just read an interesting legend of zelda timeline explanation from Nintendo. Well its from the Facebook group. If you want to look at it:
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/legendofzelda/the-legend-of-zelda-a-timeline

  • supermark64

    March 18, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    A lot of the Nintendo games have confusing timelines. Let’s take Mario as an example: You have Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Mario Bros. 3, and then Super Mario Bros. 4: Super Mario World. Then they made Super Mario World 2: Yoshi’s Island. So it would be four 2? What is this, Final Fantasy? But then what?

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