Chronologically Confused About The Legend Of Zelda Timeline

James should do a follow up to this video. Nintendo recently revealed the "official" Zelda timeline, which includes a very interesting three-way split timeline. I'd love to see his thoughts on it.

At some point of the video you got it James: The producers just didn't give a f*ck to the storyline. They just wanted to release more and more games and gain more and more money! BTW, Zelda Ocarina of Time is a masterpiece!

Zelda series blows. there i said it

Ocarina

NOT

Oak - a- rina.

Ah - Kuh - Ree - nuh

Say it with me now

Ah - Kuh - Ree - nuh

I can't stand when people with internt videos get this wrong. It only allows other people who get it wrong to say "yuh huh, SEE, that guy said it that way TOO"

I also know kids in HIGHSCHOOL who called it "Hee Roo Lay" instead of "Hyrule" (Hi - rule)

So if you want to look like you know what you're talking about, here's a free tip to make yourself look more in-the-know.

Ah - Kuh - Ree - Nuh

Ocarina

So.... Skyward Sword is first, then Minish Cap, then Four Swords, then Ocarina of Time, then there's a split of weather "the hero of time" won or lost. if the hero of time won then when he's sent back to the childhood, majoras mask takes place, then Twighlite Princess, then Four Swords Adventure, but then let's go to the adult era where hyrule is flooded. That's where Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Glass take place. But let's go back to where Ocarina of Time, if the hero of time lost. This is where a link to the past takes place, then oracle of ages/seasons and then links awakening. Then the legend of zelda then zelda II the adventure of link.

I know it is never going to happen but... When I watch this review I always dream of seeing ANY Bethesda title (Daggerfall or Morrowind or Skyrim) But none of those games really "fit" the AVGN style of course! So I just sit back and enjoy this when I need some fantasy reviews.

(Not saying this is the only Fantasy-esque review btw. Just a current faveorite.)

I saw this http://judao.mtv.uol.com.br/wp-content/uploads/201... and remembered your video. It is the official timeline.

Hey guys.. I know this is an older video and all but this is a pretty damn perfect one to go with your attempt here. It merged Back to the future and zelda and in the second half when it gets to "trying" to explain how the zelda timeline got screwed up by dabbling with time travel.. well.. it helps emphasize the very confusion you showed off here. Production value is decent, though imperfect.Still.. I laughed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...!

So James/Mike, what do you guys think of the "official" timeline revealed??

I just re-watched this video and I'm amazed that you weren't that far off...!

Cheers from Chile!

Well, there's your answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQMUjlWnh5M

Nintendo made this official.

Man seems like the mario series legend of zelda series call of duty and assassins creed and final fantasy series would live on forever till we die.

The best of everything is that Skyward Sword is another Precuel!!!! lol

WIND WAKER SUCKS I HATE THAT SHIT

Personally, I believe that the games do not fit together neatly. Even if you say that a game comes before another one using logic, reading the dialogue and watching the events during the game reveal how irreconcilable they are with each other.

It is just better to say that each story is a new legend. That is the way I took it anyway. Nintendo just likes to feed fans' imaginations and not spoil their fun by revealing the fact that they intended each as a new legend.

i got stuck in the ceiling too

The order goes-
-Skyward Sword
-The Minish Cap
-Four Swords
-Four Swords Adventures
-Ocharina of time
-Majora's mask
-Wind Waker
-Phantom Hourglass
-Spirit Tracks
-Link to the Past
-Link's Awakening
-Twilight Princess

1 and 2 don't count. The Cd-i games don't count. The Animated Series and Captain N don't count. The Cereal dosen't count.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1211067p1.html i found this this morning i immediately went here. THERE IS A TIMELINE, but its secret.

If it's a different Zelda in Zelda II then how is it a sequel? That makes it a reboot. Link to the past is a remake of the original. Ocharina's plot was made around the backstory of Link to the past. Majora's mask and Wind Waker branch off the cannon of the original. Twilight Princess is at the very end. The Cartoon is an adaptation of the original. The CD-i games are either a sad attempt at another reboot or bad fanfictions. Handheld ports and Four Swords games don't count. Micro Zelda will be the first Zelda game on the holodeck.

Great Chronologically!

Why does it say "VIES" about the hearts at 9:06? Am I reading this wrong or is that another version of the game or what?

i loved zelda holmes it was a great game ese...i still have it on my old nes ....this was o good video ,i finally joined your sight it coool.

One thing that was overlooked was the difference in titles for Zelda 3. The English language title is misleading due to making you think it forces it somewhere in the timeline. The original Japanese title, 神々のトライフォース (Kamigami no Triforce), translates to "Triforce of the Gods" and implies nothing about time at all.

Link's Awakening was a little different from 夢をみる島 (ummm...Island Where One Sees Dreams....literal translations suck due to the fact that sentence fragments are grammatically correct in Japanese which is why you can't use Google fucking Translate) but not to the point of being nowhere close like the SNES subtitle.

Before you dismiss me as just a rambling weeaboo I should point out that I live in Japan, speak Japanese, and recently obtained a job at a Japanese game company doing the English translation of the first game they will launch in America later this year (so this nit-picky translation stuff is actually how I make a living by beating my head against the wall trying to deal with those damned sentence fragments which have become the bane of my fucking existence).

By the way, in case anyone reading this hasn't seen the Japanese commercials, they are hilarious. Like their take on Thriller:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnziW56Gl0A

I think the timeline went awry because they chose to start making prequels instead of sequels. If you look, 2 was the more different and innovative out of either of the 3 at the time. As you'll see, Zelda titles like Z:TP on Wii actually feel the most fresh by sense.

Most of these Zelda games are a repeat of the same Gannon resurrection story, over and over. The goal and objectives of the game are important, so story is important in the variety department. Sure, you can have many objectives also, with sub-objectives, but the Gannon thing will just be done to death. Only a few Zelda titles don't feature him, and really, he's not the biggest monster that can be devised with his back story. I'd rather have a serial that can push Gannon aside for a god while, with a fresh revisit, and not just a rehash of 1 and 2's plot, remade over and over. Its Zelda, not Gannon, that the series is entitled to. In fact, why name all these kids link either, then? Can't they be other characters all together.

They want to fill in gaps and things in the OoT saga, but what about the original series on NES. Its not like it was another Link, so just who was this Zelda asleep in 2? What about continuing the original series? I think it has more interesting promise than all these prequels.

Zelda is the only series that actually needs a reboot, just re-imagining the original into a clever 3d title, like Zero Mission was of the original Metroid. Others are just to coax people. A sequel can have new story ideas, character development and much more, just anything a reboot and much more. A sequel is a fresh slate, so the only thing it can't do is make a new universe. And that's the problem with making it a fad and not for rebooting old franchises. A new universe coincides and not takes over unjustly.

Skyward Sword is supposed to be the first in the Chronology, i have yet to play it ( i cant wait) but Zelda is why i'm here right now, the game that as a kid opened a new world for me, And i'm excited as hell about it, i only seen a couple trailers and a little about the game itself, like now you cant even tell if you're in the map or inside a dungeon :O

I'm now beating Ocarina 3D and hell, its real sweet now! it feels more vibrant with the improved framerate ( here in europe we got the 50hz PAL version of ocarina and it was somawhat slow to the NTSC counterpart), new graphics and models, and a Masterquest bonus ( its still the only Zelda game along with Kodai No Sakiban i didnt beated up :P)
I'm expecting the same treatment to one of the most gorgeous games of all time: Majora's Mask ( i love every Zelda game, but ALTTP and Majora's Mask are the ones that touched my heart in a serious way)

Cheers from Spain!

the volume 2 is here srry
http://www.zeldainformer.com/2011/07/zelda-informe...

so heres the run down it goes like this there are diffrent timelines in the link story here they are first its the early hymlian history then child history then adult history now the order in which they come in it first goes adult child then early hymlain and now for the games now this might seem confusing to you the expanation will be at the end of this comment ok 1st it goes oracle of ages then oracle of seasons then the adventure of link lealend of zelda links awakening then a link to the past then four swords adventures then four swords then minish cap sprit tracks phantom of the hourglass and finally windwaker this is all adult link now for the child link is twilight princess then majoras mask then the last 2 games are ocarina of time and the skyward sword now this is goin from past to future but this is swaped if you want to read from past to furture ull read from bottem to top and the same reversed enjoy

http://www.zeldainformer.com/2011/07/zelda-informe...

and one more thing there is the volume two of this which is here which is the same thing but shorter read from bottem to top if u want to read past to future

thanks for your vid made me do reasearch

check this out http://elreino.net/web/viewtopic.php?t=8404

but it's in spanish...enjoy it xD

It was a link to the past because it was return to the original format

It seems like James was so much more passionate about games and the AVGN back then. It's a shame he has lost almost all interest in it nowadays.

Ok what the fuck! Skyward sword is now the first zelda game in the timeline. It even explanes in the game how the master sword gets its name. God damn!

Damn Choykr, you beat me too it.

definitely check this out the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHCbp5LTgbU

Id love to see a 2 minute opinion of this, its Back to the Future meets Legend of Zelda. It will explain and clear up all of your confusion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHCbp5LTgbU
OMG james u gonna love this video

The Zelda 64 official website (back when the internet was still pretty young) had a timeline up that said there was "one Link" and put the games in order (IIRC, Ocarina of Time came first and Link's Awakening was 'sidequest' in Zelda 2). But I doubt you can count this article as canon... especially since I haven't been able to find it since.

I love the Miyamoto picture at 6:03... like he's saying "Leave me the hell out of this."

I like the chronologically confused stuff that you do, it should be a regular feature on here?

hahahaha..... Apparently, Skyward Sword is a PREQUEL to Ocarina of Time.

I know its hard to believe that they were thinking so far ahead when making these games but the only logical place that Links Awakening fits in in my opinion is between Twilight Princess and Wind Waker.

ocarina of time is the first one, actually maybe the minish cap is first then ocarina of time follows that. after that i havent got a fucking clue, but i disagree with james that a link to the past is anywhere near the start

Okay you said we have a sequel to the original, a prequel to the original, a sequel to the prequel, a prequel to the prequel, and a sequel to the young Link of the prequel's prequel and I could barely keep up with that, but there's EVEN MORE THE TIMELINE?!?!? Holy crap...